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[DeaconOfTheDank]

I've started my third playthrough of Elden Ring to co-op with my brother over the holidays and it got me thinking - what are the chances that RTX patch will drop before AC VI?

Personally, I can't decide if they would wait until before or after the first major story DLC releases so they can focus on optimizing across the entire game. Then again, this is FromSoftware we're talking about; optimization doesn't seem to be a major priority. There were some discoveries from data mining that hinted at an eventual patch, but it's up in the air at this point.

What are your thoughts?

Elden Ring - RTX

No bullshit though, ray tracing on the PC was teased in interviews leading up to and after release: https://www.pushsquare.com/news/202...-will-give-graphics-a-shine-in-future-updates

Patch 1.07 also contained some strings directly alluding to a raytracing toggle to be in added in the graphics settings: https://twistedvoxel.com/elden-ring-update-1-07-patch-notes-ray-tracing-coming-soon/

Elden Ring - DLC

I don't have any reliable sources for this one, but there was a "leak" early this year that points to DLC being released in Q3 of 2023. Take this with a grain of salt obviously: https://gamerant.com/elden-ring-dlc-2023-leak-ransomware-attack-barbarians-badlands-godfrey/

Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon

This has apparently been in development alongside Elden Ring. There were reports of play tests and surveys happening as early as January 2022: https://www.gamesradar.com/a-new-armored-core-game-is-reportedly-in-development/

FromSoftware follows a consistent pattern of releasing within 10 months from initial announcement up to launch (Elden Ring being the major outlier). Alternatively, the "leak" that exposed Elden Ring DLC suggests a 2023 Q1 release.

 

[Beer Baelly]

From and graphics updates?

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

From and graphics updates?

Lol yeah, it sounds pretty unbelievable without any context

No bullshit though, ray tracing on the PC was teased in interviews leading up to and after release: https://www.pushsquare.com/news/202...-will-give-graphics-a-shine-in-future-updates

Patch 1.07 also contained some strings directly alluding to a raytracing toggle to be in added in the graphics settings: https://twistedvoxel.com/elden-ring-update-1-07-patch-notes-ray-tracing-coming-soon/

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Metal Wolf Chaos 2

Or King’s Field reboot

 

[nightmare-slain]

i voted story dlc but i don't know. i know miyazaki said there was more elden ring stuff coming but for some reason i have a feeling we're not going to get an expansion/big DLC. i'd love it if we did don't get me wrong.

armored core probably isn't coming until later this year so it feels a bit silly to say that'll come first unless we're expecting elden ring stuff to release in 2024 lol

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

Elden ring DLC naturally. If AC is slated for fall Elden ring DLC summer 2023.

 

[Graciaus]

I would think Elden Ring DLC would be pushed by their owner given the massive sales.

 

[Kamina]

I assume they have a team working on Elden Ring DLC while they develop Armored Core, so i assume the DLC will come first.
I don’t believe in a Ray Tracing patch.

 

[Soodanim]

I say DLC. It makes too much sense, both creatively and from a business perspective. However, it deserves to not be rushed. Surely the unprecedented success of ER has earned them that freedom.

 

[rofif]

I don’t even think it needs dlc

 

[Beer Baelly]

I don’t even think it needs dlc

Some parts are obviously unfinished, I think the DLC will be a lot more focused in scale.

 

[Mozzarella]

Elden Ring DLC probably, i think Armored Core will be late 2023 game or delayed to early 2024.

 

[tommib]

Lol at RTX

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

I've updated the description with some sources for the poll options and my thoughts on each. I'm posting here for more visibility.

Elden Ring - RTX

No bullshit though, ray tracing on the PC was teased in interviews leading up to and after release: https://www.pushsquare.com/news/202...-will-give-graphics-a-shine-in-future-updates

Patch 1.07 also contained some strings directly alluding to a raytracing toggle to be in added in the graphics settings: https://twistedvoxel.com/elden-ring-update-1-07-patch-notes-ray-tracing-coming-soon/

Elden Ring - DLC

I don't have any reliable sources for this one, but there was a leak" early this year that points to DLC being released in Q3 of 2023. Take this with a grain of salt obviously: https://gamerant.com/elden-ring-dlc-2023-leak-ransomware-attack-barbarians-badlands-godfrey/

Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon

This has apparently been in development alongside Elden Ring. There were reports of play tests and surveys happening as early as January 2022: https://www.gamesradar.com/a-new-armored-core-game-is-reportedly-in-development/

FromSoftware follows a consistent pattern of releasing within 10 months from initial announcement up to launch (Elden Ring being the major outlier). Alternatively, the "leak" that exposed Elden Ring DLC suggests a 2023 Q1 release.

 

[Filben]

That RTX patch is probably never going to come. That engine is already poorly optimised and on its last legs.

 

[Bartski]

DLC will be the RTX patch, coming first

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

That RTX patch is probably never going to come. That engine is already poorly optimised and on its last legs.

Datamining from recent patches says otherwise.

From will re-use whatever assets and engine features they can for as long as they can, for better or for worse. I can't see them moving to a new engine especially after they just spent considerable amount of dev time migrating their engine to DX12.

 

[RAIDEN1]

So if you are new to all things Armored core what would be the first go-to-game to get an idea about what it's all about?

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

So if you are new to all things Armored core what would be the first go-to-game to get an idea about what it's all about?

Good question, I'm new as well. I've heard that AC4 is best for newcomers: https://www.resetera.com/threads/armored-core-where-to-begin-series-discussion.663115/

 

[skneogaf]

 

[Filben]

Datamining from recent patches says otherwise.

I'm still sceptical that it's gonna be there. Of course I hope for the best, also for a good RT-performance, but given the game's fidelity and quite poor performance, I wonder how viable RT will be here.

 

[FunkMiller]

Story DLC with any luck.

And it'll probably be longer, and better quality than most full games this year, and will probably be in with a chance of GOTY again.

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

I'm still sceptical that it's gonna be there. Of course I hope for the best, also for a good RT-performance, but given the game's fidelity and quite poor performance, I wonder how viable RT will be here.

Considering the typical performance cost of RT and From's engineering track record, I wouldn't hold my breath for viability unless you have the beefiest of hardware.

 

[Trogdor1123]

RTX before they fix the fps? I hope not.

I’m thinking story dlc though

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

I don't understand why people doubt ER will get story DLC. It's their most successful game by a wide margin and I'd bet From DLC attach rates are super high. It's a license to print money using assets already created for the main game. No way they don't release it, and I think it's likely to come out before AC6

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

I don't understand why people doubt ER will get story DLC. It's their most successful game by a wide margin and I'd bet From DLC attach rates are super high. It's a license to print money using assets already created for the main game. No way they don't release it, and I think it's likely to come out before AC6

Yeah, seems a bit silly to think that they won't release story DLC. Given how much effort they put into building out the world of Elden Ring and all the loose ends to explore (Miquella, Godwyn, etc.), I figured it was pretty much a given that DLC was coming.

From has a history of managing their resources to divide and conquer so they can keep up a steady pace of releases - this is how they managed to launch 6 games in 2010s alone. In 2016, it was reported that they had "3 and half" projects in development (Deracine, Sekiro, Elden Ring, Armored Core VI):

• https://www.engadget.com/fromsoftware-next-game-final-stages-of-development-193259546.html
• https://www.forbes.com/sites/ollieb...with-one-likely-being-a-new-armored-core/amp/

What I'm trying to point out is that, outside of marketing reasons, they have no barriers to release titles at the same time or out of order. It's a bit of a stretch on my part, but the Bandai Namco "leak" suggests that story DLC will come after the release of AC6.

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

I'm hoping we have more than one effect:

• Reflections seem pretty obvious given the significant screen-space artifacting all across Liurnia
• Shadows would make the catacombs + mines very atmospheric with all the light sources
• Other than reflections, GI + AO would have a significant impact on the world with bounce lighting making the colorful environments pop even more. It's also the most expensive to implement so it's the least likely.

Ooooooh Elden Ring. Most awarded game of all time needs some RTX!

 

[_Idea_of_Evil_]

Lol at RTX

 

[MALpractice311]

Honestly, I hope they DON'T release the ray tracing patch. As much as love From soft from a creative standpoint, they're far from technical wizards. They finally have Elden Ring at a mostly consistent framerate. The last thing they need is to introduce, in my opinion, over-hyped and mostly useless ray tracing and ruin their framerates again.

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

Honestly, I hope they DON'T release the ray tracing patch. As much as love From soft from a creative standpoint, they're far from technical wizards. They finally have Elden Ring at a mostly consistent framerate. The last thing they need is to introduce, in my opinion, over-hyped and mostly useless ray tracing and ruin their framerates again.

As long as you have the ability to toggle it on/off then there shouldn't be any impact to performance for those that want to stick to the original lighting.

This isn't the same situation as Witcher 3 where moving the engine to DirectX 12 caused significant performance bottlenecks that weren't present in the original. Elden Ring is already running on DirectX 12.

 

[MALpractice311]

As long as you have the ability to toggle it on/off then there shouldn't be any impact to performance for those that want to stick to the original lighting.

This isn't the same situation as Witcher 3 where moving the engine to DirectX 12 caused significant performance bottlenecks that weren't present in the original. Elden Ring is already running on DirectX 12.

I'd like to think that, but it's From. I worry.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I'd like to think that, but it's From. I worry.

What I'd actually like is for From Soft to take a breather between games for some much needed technical debt downpayment on their engine.

Heck I wonder how they'd look on UE5, though some would argue it takes away some of their vibe/charm. An engine is an engine though, on a good one like that they should be able to deliver whatever vision they have.

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

So does anybody think there will be an announcement at the anniversary event in a couple of hours? My money is on a raytracing update

 

[01011001]

So does anybody think there will be announcement at the anniversary event in a couple of hours? My money is on a raytracing update

RT update release date (maybe shadow drop) and dlc trailer