Speed limits are generally set using the 85% rule.
So if everyone is speeding on a road the limit should be raised.
but...muh ticket revenue!
Speed limits are generally set using the 85% rule.
So if everyone is speeding on a road the limit should be raised.
As a general rule I drive 4 over.
On the freeway I double that.
So, 39 in a 35, 44 in a 40, 54 in a 50, etc., and then 78 in a 70, 73 in a 65, etc.
Faster than that I get nervous. Fuck getting pulled over.
Same. I've also never been pulled over. Only problem is that in the Seattle area, people are always driving the speed limit on the interstate, including in the left lane and they refuse to get over. So infuriating.
Also, so many Prius drivers here. So many.
Those people aren't being dangerous because they're speeding, they're being dangerous because they're driving erratically. You can do that under the speed limit and be just as, if not more, dangerous.
I agree there should be speed limits and some of them are entirely practical like school zones and residential areas but a lot of them are just too low to be practical.
Now living in Upstate New York. Even the drivers in the right lanes drive at least 10 MPH over the speed limit. Shit is cray.
I have a 40 minute commute to work, one way. Mostly on the interstate. I average 10mph over in the left lane. If you're not doing 10mph over, that's fine....but get out of my way.
Not only is speeding accepted by many, but most of them have this jerk's attitude. I want to go the speed limit, you want to go 10 miles over the speed limit. Why do I need to get out of your way, why are your desires more important than mine, especially when yours are against the law and objectively endangering the lives of people around you, like my pregnant wife and our two year old daughter, just because you feel like going a little faster - which saves little to no time, if you really think about it.
Because you have two to three other lanes you could be driving that speed in. The left most lane is there so people can go faster there and go around people in the other lanes who may be trying to merge. You're holding up the purpose of that lane if you're going the same speed you would in any of the other lanes.
Not only is speeding accepted by many, but most of them have thisattitude. I want to go the speed limit, you want to go 10 miles over the speed limit. Why do I need to get out of your way, why are your desires more important than mine, especially when yours are against the law and objectively endangering the lives of people around you, like my pregnant wife and our two year old daughter, just because you feel like going a little faster - which saves little to no time, if you really think about it.jerk's
Nope, two-lane highways in my area and tons of on-ramps and slow moving trucks in the right lane. I only use the left lane to pass, spend all the rest of my time in the slow lane, but even then, I get drivers on my tail every single day riding WAY too close (because that helps) trying to urge me to get over faster. If I could, I would, and you're an asshole if your own and other people's safety means so little to you.
The troopers agree with you.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LZhdvl_P1Zc
Personally I go with the flow of traffic. If a trooper is going at 70mph at 55 zone, I drive alongside him. Then again our speed limits are so slow everyone drives at 60-70 in 55 zones.
You should not be in the left lane unless you are passing. EVER.
It's not that my time is more important than yours, it's because roads work according to a system, which if everyone actually followed, would mean less traffic and more people getting to where they need to be.
If you are sitting in the left lane doing the speed limit, you are a hazard. And if someone comes up behind you, you are obligated to move to one side and let them overtake, because that is how roads work.
Congrats, right lane is for you. Sometimes I need to drive the speed limit or a little slower. Sometimes I just don't want to go fast. That's what the right lane is for.
I hate when traffic is trying to move and is stuck between two 18 wheelers and the ONE guy in the fast lane that wants to do 55.
Since you're ignoring it just for fun - I only use the left lane to pass. The second I can get out of the way of idiots who are tailgating me, I do.
People still drive inches away from my bumper because they're morons who think that that will get them where they're going faster, when really all it does is endanger my family. I have every right to be pissed off at you if you endanger my family for the sake of your convenience.
But do you do that while driving parallel to 2 more cars?
Just pointing out the irony of complaining about trucks going too slow...maybe they want to go the speed limit too....
I usually go 5 over, haven't been stopped.
On the two lane roads, you get the exact dynamic described here -- the right lane is (correctly) full of slowpokes, but people who want to go 75 get dangerously tailgated when they move left to pass by the people who want to go 90.
That's a damn lie. Anybody who has ever had to speed to work knows this.I'm pretty sure its also been shown that speeding, at least in urban areas, saves little to no time. It only really makes a difference when going long distance on open, country roads or highways with little to no stop lights
I have a 40 minute commute to work, one way. Mostly on the interstate. I average 10mph over in the left lane. If you're not doing 10mph over, that's fine....but get out of my way.
Not only is speeding accepted by many, but most of them have thisattitude. I want to go the speed limit, you want to go 10 miles over the speed limit. Why do I need to get out of your way, why are your desires more important than mine, especially when yours are against the law and objectively endangering the lives of people around you, like my pregnant wife and our two year old daughter, just because you feel like going a little faster - which saves little to no time, if you really think about it.jerk's
The funny thing about speeding is that a simple calculation shows how little time you actually save in most cases (e.g. going 5-7 mph above the limit).
The funny thing about speeding is that a simple calculation shows how little time you actually save in most cases (e.g. going 5-7 mph above the limit).
They should all be in the right lane unless overtaking, no exceptions. They should also move into the right lane when someone comes up behind them.
This is what isn't being taught in driver's ed. It's basic shit.
I work in a criminal records office. I'm a relatively new driver and my colleagues are actually poking fun at the fact I only speed a little. It's a common myth that largely holds true that we're allowed to speed up to 10% of the limit (33mph in a 30, 44mph in a 40).
I take advantage of that 10% rule purely because everyone else does and I don't want to be the guy holding up lines of traffic, but I'm actually having people say I'm not speeding enough. Apparently you're a ridiculous and slow driver if you aren't doing 40MPH in 30 and 50MPH in a 40.
Why is it so acceptable to speed, seriously? The limits are there for a reason: they are tried and tested. They save lives. If everyone stuck to or close to the limit, driving would be easier for everyone. I don't get it.
OP,
There are 2 types of Laws: regular laws and gray laws. Regular laws, under normal circumstances people won't break these laws. These are GTA, Murder, Robbery.
Then you have gray laws. Which people via as no harm, no foul. Piracy and speeding are types of gray laws. People know it's wrong, they just don't care.
No, there isn't enough room around here for everybody to be in the right lane when they're not passing. What you're saying sounds sensible on paper but is actively bad advice for certain roads.
They should all be in the right lane unless overtaking, no exceptions. They should also move into the right lane when someone comes up behind them.
This is what isn't being taught in driver's ed. It's basic shit.
No, there isn't enough room around here for everybody to be in the right lane when they're not passing. What you're saying sounds sensible on paper but is actively bad advice for certain roads.
Yep this. The amount of times I drive on a two lane highway in California is minuscule too, almost all of them are 3+ lanes per sideMaybe where you live, but not in California and many other places. Literally nobody does this in California, in part because on most two-lane highways (primarily Highway 5), the right lane is so slow due to trucks that there's no reason for a car to be in it 90% of the time. You're always passing on that road. And on a multilane freeway, all lanes are used, period. The left lane is not a passing lane on the West coast.
Anyone who calls you slow because your aren't going 10 miles over the limit at any given time are just trying to excuse their reckless driving and justify whatever speeding tickets they have.
I think people who aren't using the left lanes to pass are actually way more disruptive to the flow of traffic.
Maybe where you live, but not in California and many other places. Literally nobody does this in California, in part because on most two-lane highways (primarily Highway 5), the right lane is so slow due to trucks that there's no reason for a car to be in it 90% of the time. You're always passing on that road (and everyone's going 90). And on a multilane freeway, all lanes are used, period. The left lane is not a passing lane on the West coast.
Anyone who calls you slow because your aren't going 10 miles over the limit at any given time are just trying to excuse their reckless driving and justify whatever speeding tickets they have.
I think people who aren't using the left lanes to pass are actually way more disruptive to the flow of traffic. Of course speeding is an inclusion when factoring car accidents. It's easy to blame. I see wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more accidents during rush hour traffic where traffic is a crawl. You think reports will state that slow speeds were the cause? No.
Speed limits should definitely be enforced in residential areas, but it makes little sense on the highway.
Q. Isn't slower always safer?
A. No, federal and state studies have consistently shown that the drivers most likely to get into accidents in traffic are those traveling significantly below the average speed. According to research, those driving 10 mph slower than the prevailing speed are more likely to be involved in an accident. That means that if the average speed on an interstate is 70 mph, the person traveling at 60 mph is more likely to be involved in an accident than someone going 70 or even 80 mph.
I have a 40 minute commute to work, one way. Mostly on the interstate. I average 10mph over in the left lane. If you're not doing 10mph over, that's fine....but get out of my way.
I'm in a muscle car. I can't help but to speed, especially when Prius drivers try to cut me off.
Been driving for 16 years. I'm always in the left lane. It's fun; move over to the right gramps.
The funny thing about speeding is that a simple calculation shows how little time you actually save in most cases (e.g. going 5-7 mph above the limit).
I wish there were more time-based limits. Hate driving late at night with no cars on the highway but having to stick to 70.