DragonSworne
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WiiU will need to get almost all the third party multiplatforms and these titles must perform well for me to consider the WiiU a success.
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Wii U Thread - Now in HD!
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I want Battalion Wars 3. Godamnit, what I'd give to have that game. Who I'd kill to have that game... *narrows eyes at Ideaman*
evilromero
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How about just Mario 64? I want big rolling hills as far as the eye can see.
KennyLinder
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Any of these classics would be amazing
Wave Race
Star Fox
3D Mario
F-Zero
Smash Bros
Luigis Mansion (wish we were getting a home system one)
This would be nice too
New IP!!
Wave Race
Star Fox
3D Mario
F-Zero
Smash Bros
Luigis Mansion (wish we were getting a home system one)
This would be nice too
New IP!!
I am looking forward to what they say about Nintendo Land. I'm not spending any money on that (I have no use for a local multiplayer mini-game) but it will be interesting to see how they address the game given that people still see it as a mini-game collection that needs to be a pack-in. They've said before there is more to it but they've yet to show that. They have to show and explain why it's worthy of being a full price retail game and should not be looked at as a cheap mini-game collection. A tech demo that needs to be packed in with the system. Until they prove that it isn't, that's all it really is to me (based on their own actions regarding the game) regardless to how much fun it might be.
Don't set yourself up for disappointment. You really believe they'd launch with TWO Mario games and with another Mario game that came out a few months for their portable platform?
Mario is their safe-bet seller. They need a 3D Mario for later.
100% guaranteed this will not happen. Most definitely not for launch.
I think online play with leaderboards would seal the deal for me on this if it were a stand alone title.
Also, since it contains mini games I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to put a Wii Motion plus controller into a box and bundle it up with this game for cheap.
That doesn't go against what I said. It's still described as a local mulitplayer mini-game collection.
This is just ridiculous mass suggestion on nintendo threads. Were Fusion Frenzy, Mario Party 9, Wii Sports Resort, and other variety games released in retail? Nintendo Land is touting a higher sales potential than all those properties. You have a choice to buy the game or not once you see it finished.
If you wanted to a bit more logical about intelligently bundling the game, it would
be bundling the game with a wii motion plus controller. Same way Nintendo sold billions of wii fits and wii plays.
didn't see this posted anywhere:
Umbra Software now an official Wii U partner
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Umbra Software now an official Wii U partner
What's Umbra Software?
The purpose of Umbra 3 is to increase frame rate and help you get better performance out of your game.
Umbra 3 does this by optimizing critical parts of a game such as rendering and by providing tools to help with content streaming and game logic. We offer solutions that either work 100% on the CPU or use both the CPU and the GPU.
Umbra 3 builds an internal representation of a game scene and uses this data at runtime to perform efficient queries that can be used to e.g. determine the set of visible objects for the player or determine the set of objects that are within a given distance from a point.
Umbra 3 is available for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, pc, iOS, handheld platforms and others on request.
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I recall a while back seeing an article that stated that Nintendo wished they had gotten Galaxy out at launch. I think for the casual gamer, seeing a game as robust as something like that with a familiar face will drive non-believers back to Nintendo hardware. Mario sells hardware.
The same exact thing could be said of Wii Sports. Reggie has even called it "The Wii Sports for the Wii U hardware".
I have a hard time believing it'll be sold separately.
MadeInBeats
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We knew about this a week or so ago man. I'm wondering if it Nintendo is licensing for all WiiU dev, like the Havok stuff, or if devs have to pay for it individually.
Really? hmmm.. didn't see it
well, it doesn't hurt to post it again. After all, we have a lot of new posters now and probably didn't know.
Dacvak
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Wait. They made a Battalion Wars 2??
tkscz
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This reminded me that the WiiU has a I/O processor, GPGPU and a DSP. But this does bring up a question. Now we keep hearing that the WiiU's CPU is weak, but is it possible that it is just being programmed for incorrectly? By this I mean, the games being ported to the WiiU are made for consoles that have in-order CPUs, older GPU's that are not GPGPU's and no DSP. Couldn't that, theoretically, be holding down the WiiU's CPU with unnecessary processes and making it slower than it should be?
ShockingAlberto
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For the Wii, yes.
In case you didn't realize NSMB sells way, way, way, way, way more than any 3D mario game. It is by far the bigger system seller, why in the world would they want to release a 3D mario at launch when NSMBU is already there?
It's absolutely not the same thing. Wii Sports was sold separately in Japan, but bundled (at the hike of MSRP) elsewhere because of the lack of marketable characters in the game. But Nintendo Land has Smash Brothers branding all over it. A cast of loveable Nintendo characters. It's asinine to think Nintendo can't sell that stand alone when they sold millions of Wii Fits, Wii Party, Wii Play, and Wii Sports Resort.
Steel Diver as Pilotwings were shallow games and they sure as heck were not free.
It could be. But there is something that is making me sceptical. What if WiiU is indeed a very capable machine, but because of the architectural differences a difficult one to be utilized?
Will any third parties give the time and money to port their games if it requires a lot of effort?
Just think how underutilized the Wii (and GameCube) was by the third parties, even though it was capable of better graphics than the average effort. I think the fact that Star Wars which was a launch GC title is so much better looking than most of the Wii games shows that capabilities will remain underutilized if it requires a lot of time and money in order to use any special hardware (like the TEV of the Wii/GC).
So maybe WiiU's CPU is powerful but requires a different approach in order to get better results than Cell or 360's CPU. If WiiU is architecturally different than PS4 and Nextbox in such fashion that it would require a strong effort to port games, once again many third parties will not include the Nintendo console in their multiplatform plans.
As for now, i hope that it is just that the tools for WiiU are not so optimized and that is the reason why some developers have expressed their concerns about the console's CPU power.
MadeInBeats
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Nope. All the confirmed middleware and GH stuff should be added to the OP.
chertipros
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This is nintendo so probably not. However miiverse is supposed to be heavily integrated
evilromero
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I still don't see the appeal for online play in that game. It'd be like online play in Wii Sports. No social appeal for me. Playing a multiplayer game like that rewards real life interaction in my opinion.
And with voice commands.
Gamecube games will more than likely be upscaled, that's almost certain. Doubt they'll be re-rendered at higher resolutions, which is what you're asking.
Yes and that is exactly why the Wii U is launching with New Super Mario Bros. U.
Sales wise, New Super Mario series > 3D Mario games.
3 major Mario games within 4 months? That's just utter insanity. How can one even entertain the idea that they might pull a 3D Mario out of their hat and have it ready for launch alongside a 2D Mario. Lay off those pills!
or yea, this basically:
Agent Unknown
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Did GameStop do a midnight launch for the Wii? I'd prefer to do Best Buy but there's no way I'm braving any of their insane late night November waiting lines.
This sounds like a good idea.
chertipros
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Yep they did and so did Toys R Us
The appeal is simple. I won't have 5 people in my house wanting to play video games more than 1 or 2 times a year. But many of the articles written about the playtime with this game say it is easily it's most fun when you play the 5 player games (IE Luigi ghost and the Animal crossing candy one).
I'm 30 years old; I don't have friends come over to play video games with me anymore. I might get family to come over during the holiday's but they aren't gamers.
Nintendo has said they want this game to be played and experienced by everyone, but how do they expect some of us to play it when it's only local play? The single player DK game they demo'd is not really up my ally and not something I would play more than once or twice. There are 7 other games to still being shown, but how many of them will be single player ones?
I don't really understand why online would make it less appealing? You can voice chat, video chat, etc to minimize the 'distance'. You can turn off voice chat for the person using the gamepad in games like Luigi's ghost so only the other players can talk to each other.
I'd question if it has higher sales potential than Mario Party. Mario Party is one of Nintendo's biggest franchises. It was criminally stupid for them to abandon it for so long during the life of the Wii. Nintendo Land is a brand new franchise. It's not like Smash Bros., where you play as and fight other beloved Nintendo characters. Instead, it's just themes drawn from Nintendo games.
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Also what he says:
Wii Sports was a great multi-player experience - the two Christmases I dragged the Wii down to family gatherings. Or when I was able to get a group of people together to play it, a few times. The rest of the time, it was just me. And it was much more boring.
chertipros
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6 are multiplayer and 6 games are Single player but i understand where you are coming from
What about Battle Mii? Is it still just a tech demo or a real game? Sigh... I want this game so bad.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I'm betting it will turn out to be the Metroid game in Nintendo Land....
TheAmazingXemo
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Is that a joke from Pulp Fiction? ;D
Good to see this thing back in Gaming, i'm scared of communities, hooray most postzers are still there *waves at everyone*
Odama was f*ing amazing! ReReReRERemaaaaake, click click click click.
Agent Unknown
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Thanks.
I really hope so. Fingers crossed.
Assuming we take an average of 3 years to develop an HD game from scratch I would say we can expect these first party studios' games before 2014.
EAD Tokyo#1's last major release was Super Mario Galaxy 1 in 2007. They helped co-develop OoT 3D. I'm waiting to see what they're up to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_Analysis_and_Development
Retro Studios has not released anything since 2010 (Donkey Kong) but did help on Mario Kart 7. They are almost tithing the 2 year mark. Xmas 2013.
Monolith Software finished Xenoblade in 2010 so they should be ready soon. They're hitting the 2 year mark. Their game should be ready by Xmas 2013.
SDG 1 releases a Nintendo's and Mario kart the same year (2005, 2011). MKWii was released in 2008 and we could see a rushed MK8 for Xmas 2013 or spring 2014. I don't see a Zelda or smash till 2015. But the Wii U's first 3 years should be interesting.
A 3D Mario should be done by 2014 if done by Tokyo #2. I think they are the new 3D Mario team since they did Galaxy 2 and 3D land. I guess Tokyo #1 is working on a new ip.
EAD Tokyo#1's last major release was Super Mario Galaxy 1 in 2007. They helped co-develop OoT 3D. I'm waiting to see what they're up to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_Analysis_and_Development
Retro Studios has not released anything since 2010 (Donkey Kong) but did help on Mario Kart 7. They are almost tithing the 2 year mark. Xmas 2013.
Monolith Software finished Xenoblade in 2010 so they should be ready soon. They're hitting the 2 year mark. Their game should be ready by Xmas 2013.
SDG 1 releases a Nintendo's and Mario kart the same year (2005, 2011). MKWii was released in 2008 and we could see a rushed MK8 for Xmas 2013 or spring 2014. I don't see a Zelda or smash till 2015. But the Wii U's first 3 years should be interesting.
A 3D Mario should be done by 2014 if done by Tokyo #2. I think they are the new 3D Mario team since they did Galaxy 2 and 3D land. I guess Tokyo #1 is working on a new ip.
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