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Would you like a glass of plastic with that order?
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Blitzmangoman
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Same but I don't think there is other options for me. It's either that or tapwater, which is full of lime and all the other shit over here where I live and the whole pipe system was renewed this past year lol.
What about wax cups?
Waxed paper cups are typically made with paraffin wax. The FDA regards it as safe and inert. Doesn't contain BPAs or phthalates or things along those lines that you see in plastics.
Sakura
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There is a lot of talk about how people are more likely to suffer from various conditions that were less prevalent in previous generations, for example allergies, asthma, down syndrome, etc. I remember even reading about how male pattern baldness is happening earlier on average (not sure if true on that one).
I'm sure lifestyle and such is a factor, but something I've been wondering lately is how much of this is a result of people having children at older ages. Women have been having children later and later in life, with the average age in the US being around 30 years old now.
This is from census.gov:
The fertility rate below 30 has dropped significantly, while the over 30 has gone up quite a bit, with a 67% increase for women aged 35-39, and 132% increase for women aged 40-44.
It's known that older women have a much higher chance of having defects in their children. For example, from webmd: "If you are age 25, the chance of Down syndrome is about 1 in 1,250. If you are age 35, the risk increases to 1 in 400. By age 45, it is 1 in 30."
Maybe it could even have an effect on testosterone levels (I don't see why not).
I think that age of mothers could be a big factor that has maybe gone a little overlooked.
The Pleasure
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The generation that had their brain turned to mush with devices and think skibidi toilet is funny? May god save us all.
Krappadizzle
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Wellllppp...... I guess we know what we gotta do..
Trilobit
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I bring with me my glass bottle with silicone protection in my daily life. We have great water in my country so there's no problems filling it up. It's also easy to clean it with boiling water to keep it hygienic. And I probably save a lot of money in a year. I put some lemon juice in it if I want to have some good taste.
Werewolf Jones
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So if this shit enters my bloodstream am I fucked or will it be filtered out by my kidneys and get pissed out?
FunkMiller
Gold Member
The science is still being collated properly, but to my mind, having plastic inside my body can't result in anything good. And studies show an adverse effect on human cells.
Put it this way... I'm more than happy to not drink bottled water. For multiple reasons.
Sleepwalker
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Our tap water is shit, tastes awful and doesnt sit well in my stomach, but plastic bottled water is terrible too.
We ended up buying a water distiller and that's how we drink our tap water.
We ended up buying a water distiller and that's how we drink our tap water.
Solarstrike
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excerpt from CBS News (USA) article dated 1-9-2024:
Bottled Water Contains 100 Times More Plastic...
"People are exposed to microplastics when they breathe, drink and eat, according to health officials. The human body naturally flushes most microplastics, but some extremely small particles can remain in our systems. The study's researchers said that
"nanoplastics are believed to be more toxic since their smaller size renders them much more amenable, compared to microplastics, to enter the human body."Researchers are unsure just how dangerous microscopic pieces of plastics are for people.
The World Health Organization in 2019 said that the potential hazards associated with microplastics come in three forms: from the particles themselves, chemicals that make them up and "microorganisms that may attach and colonize on microplastics,
known as biofilms." At the time, WHO technical officer Jennifer de France said the organization was not alarmed. "With the data that we have, we can say that we believe the risk to be low, but at the same time, we can't rule out conclusively that there
might never be a risk in the future," de France said in 2019.
Bottled water products in the U.S. are regulated by the Food and Drug Administration. In general, the FDA does not comment on specific studies. A spokesperson explained that when studies come out, the FDA "evaluates them as part of the body of evidence to further our understanding about a particular issue and assist in our mission to protect public health." The agency said it is reviewing the findings of the nanoplastic study.
Current regulations require the water to go through filters that remove particles larger than one micron— .00004 inches —in size. From source to finished product, a multi-barrier approach helps prevent possible harmful contamination to the finished product as well as storage, production, and transportation equipment," the International Bottled Water Association said in a statement. "Many of the steps in a multi-barrier system are effective in safeguarding bottled water from microbiological and other contamination.
The association also noted there is "no scientific consensus on potential health impacts."
The whole thing is fked. Is there going to be a class action lawsuit? Is anyone going to be held accountable? The food industry is enormous. Did anyone know the Smithfield brand (one of the largest food makers) was owned by China? Anyhow, food industry lobbyists are full of deep pockets. Ever since plastics were used to seal, ship, and store foods, it seems the health of many people across the world have deteriorated. While food manufacturers cut costs by using plastic for shipping, storage, etc. they didn't give a shit about it turning people into Gumby and Pokey. It was cheaper and they didn't care to have it researched for safety until well after it's integration. I did my small part by switching from plastic to wooden kitchen utensils. Storage bowls and cups next. It's a start i guess.
Bottled Water Contains 100 Times More Plastic...
"People are exposed to microplastics when they breathe, drink and eat, according to health officials. The human body naturally flushes most microplastics, but some extremely small particles can remain in our systems. The study's researchers said that
"nanoplastics are believed to be more toxic since their smaller size renders them much more amenable, compared to microplastics, to enter the human body."Researchers are unsure just how dangerous microscopic pieces of plastics are for people.
The World Health Organization in 2019 said that the potential hazards associated with microplastics come in three forms: from the particles themselves, chemicals that make them up and "microorganisms that may attach and colonize on microplastics,
known as biofilms." At the time, WHO technical officer Jennifer de France said the organization was not alarmed. "With the data that we have, we can say that we believe the risk to be low, but at the same time, we can't rule out conclusively that there
might never be a risk in the future," de France said in 2019.
Bottled water products in the U.S. are regulated by the Food and Drug Administration. In general, the FDA does not comment on specific studies. A spokesperson explained that when studies come out, the FDA "evaluates them as part of the body of evidence to further our understanding about a particular issue and assist in our mission to protect public health." The agency said it is reviewing the findings of the nanoplastic study.
Current regulations require the water to go through filters that remove particles larger than one micron— .00004 inches —in size. From source to finished product, a multi-barrier approach helps prevent possible harmful contamination to the finished product as well as storage, production, and transportation equipment," the International Bottled Water Association said in a statement. "Many of the steps in a multi-barrier system are effective in safeguarding bottled water from microbiological and other contamination.
The association also noted there is "no scientific consensus on potential health impacts."
The whole thing is fked. Is there going to be a class action lawsuit? Is anyone going to be held accountable? The food industry is enormous. Did anyone know the Smithfield brand (one of the largest food makers) was owned by China? Anyhow, food industry lobbyists are full of deep pockets. Ever since plastics were used to seal, ship, and store foods, it seems the health of many people across the world have deteriorated. While food manufacturers cut costs by using plastic for shipping, storage, etc. they didn't give a shit about it turning people into Gumby and Pokey. It was cheaper and they didn't care to have it researched for safety until well after it's integration. I did my small part by switching from plastic to wooden kitchen utensils. Storage bowls and cups next. It's a start i guess.
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Solarstrike
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It's total bullshit how Columbia University didn't want to name names. By law, they should be required to or fined. It's in the best interest of human et al, safety. Big thumbs down for Columbia University
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Does it matter? I imagine it's not these specific brands, it's just plastic containers in general.
Solarstrike
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It sure does matter. Because people wouldn't buy the brand(s) if they knew. Columbia University (Lamont-Doherty lab) is with witholding the name brands of the bottled water they tested.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Huh? Again, it's not about brands but about the containers (plastic bottles). Their recommendation shouldn't be: avoid Nestle or avoid evian but: avoid plastic bottles in general.
CrankyJay™
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had one additional thought on this. Are we even surprised? We are a society that now has microwaveable steamer bags for vegetables. We bathe our foods in plastic bags for sous vide.
Everyone claims it’s safe but we know that’s probably not the case. I don’t care if a company claims something is BPA free.
Everyone claims it’s safe but we know that’s probably not the case. I don’t care if a company claims something is BPA free.
Solarstrike
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Of course a recommendation should be to avoid the bottles/plastics all together, that's a given. What I'm saying is , there should be nothing withheld from the scientific report(s). When there's PROOF in the data, names need to be published and publicized. Reason being, so these companies can get maybe their products corrected. Further, if the companies knew about it (harmful effects of plastics) all along then that's a whole separate fish to fry, smh
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Yeah, I too would like to quantity how fucked we are
The article mentions that the majority of the plastics is from the filtering, rather than the bottles.
I mentioned Coca-Cola as they were using reverse osmosis to filter their water, details about their shady practices for their Dasani brand are
here
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JCK75
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A lot of plastic actually can't be recycled and resued. Where do you think they're putting all that plastic many states are requiring you to recycle?
For a while they were paying China and India to "Recyle it" which I think in their native tongue means through it into the ocean.
Celcius
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Sigh, I've been drinking bottled water exclusively for years. There's a half empty plastic bottle of water next to me right now.
This stuff is probably all up in my system.
Well, now that I know better I can do better. I'm cutting plastic bottled water from my life right now... I'll switch to a metal water mug and just drink the filtered water from my fridge.
...but oof I've been drinking plastic bottled water for so long...
This stuff is probably all up in my system.
Well, now that I know better I can do better. I'm cutting plastic bottled water from my life right now... I'll switch to a metal water mug and just drink the filtered water from my fridge.
...but oof I've been drinking plastic bottled water for so long...
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-Minsc-
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While I go and plumb the potable water system in your home with cross-linked polyethylene tubing.
I remember it was until sometime in the early 2000's here we still had glass pop bottles. Eventually keeping the bottling plant open was no longer worth the votes, probably. Miss those 20 and 40 cent deposits. Now we only get 5 cents back from the plastic bottles and cans.
Edit: Based off my two minute thought study while having a shower I have come to the conclusion that God is using humanity to cleanse the earth of our own plastic problem.
I remember it was until sometime in the early 2000's here we still had glass pop bottles. Eventually keeping the bottling plant open was no longer worth the votes, probably. Miss those 20 and 40 cent deposits. Now we only get 5 cents back from the plastic bottles and cans.
Edit: Based off my two minute thought study while having a shower I have come to the conclusion that God is using humanity to cleanse the earth of our own plastic problem.
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MaestroMike
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Just exercise and cut weight and eat sulfur rich veggies to break apart and get rid of old tissue that accumulated all the toxins and plastics and heavy metals and plastics and then make new tissue. Rinse and repeat like a dog shedding their fur break down and get rid of old cells
Edit: bodybuilders gotta be cool with losing their gainz tho lol I don’t understand why athletes can’t just use roids to get back to their previous weight that they reached naturally if a fighter reached heavyweight naturally buts to drop weight and fight at middleweight and then jump back up to heavyweight why can’t they use roids to get back to a weight they already achieved naturally ? Then once they get back to that original weight they can’t use roids anymore to gain anymore muscle mass they gotta do it naturally
Edit: bodybuilders gotta be cool with losing their gainz tho lol I don’t understand why athletes can’t just use roids to get back to their previous weight that they reached naturally if a fighter reached heavyweight naturally buts to drop weight and fight at middleweight and then jump back up to heavyweight why can’t they use roids to get back to a weight they already achieved naturally ? Then once they get back to that original weight they can’t use roids anymore to gain anymore muscle mass they gotta do it naturally
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