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X360 scratching discs... not a myth?
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inpHilltr8r
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Kibbles said:
Basileus777
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I ruined my copy of GH2 by moving the system with the disc in. And the system wasn't even on. It's not a myth.
Cirekiller
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itxaka said:
Nintendium is second only to Gundanium.
Susurrus
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ouchx100 said:My 360 hasnt scratched anything yet. Im even one of those idiots thats moves it while its on too. Only because my pc and 360 share the only ethernet cable that runs to this room and I cant see to plug it into the 360 without moving it a bit.
Sucks for those that want to use it in the car though. I used to take my ps2 on roadtrips and play it in the car.
You should invest in one of these.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124005
Nathan Rain
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Well no shit what did you think would happen? :lol
People will sue for anything. Sure, my 360 has made hair-mark scratches on my copy of COD4, but installations have fixed my problem and made the games more enjoyable through performance perks.
The Faceless Master
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so i was wondering, than the xbox 360, what consoles are widely known to scratch disks if you move them with a disk inside?
i mean, other than PS1, which i'm sure many of us flipped upside down to play i doubt many people actually move their consoles with a spinning disk very often, but was this ever really an issue with any other optical disk drive?
or cd walkmen, vehicle cd players, laptops, portable dvd players, etc?
i mean, other than PS1, which i'm sure many of us flipped upside down to play i doubt many people actually move their consoles with a spinning disk very often, but was this ever really an issue with any other optical disk drive?
or cd walkmen, vehicle cd players, laptops, portable dvd players, etc?
One of my coworkers' 360 scratched up his games badly and, ancient as it is, my O.G. Xbox killed a few of my games, including my copy of Phantom Dust. My system wasn't moved, dropped, or mishandled and (if he is to be believed) neither was his.
Faceless: Just about every drive is capable of damaging a disc if the drive is moved while the disc is inside...it depends on the severity of the move and the manufacturing of the drive. The OG XBox, with a Thompson drive, is the only drive I've ever witnessed that did that without any motion to the drive itself.
Faceless: Just about every drive is capable of damaging a disc if the drive is moved while the disc is inside...it depends on the severity of the move and the manufacturing of the drive. The OG XBox, with a Thompson drive, is the only drive I've ever witnessed that did that without any motion to the drive itself.
Here's link to a page describing adding rubber pads to fix the problem.
Android18a
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My Xbox has scratched loads of discs. I had to get my Blue Dragon discs repaired just to finish the game. Really rather annoying, actually.
codswallop
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Tell that to one of the guys I manage who decided to shift a PC while it was on with a disc after I told him not to.dfyb said:
Suffice to say, the shattered disc and destroyed drive means he listens to me more often.
Throwaway123456789
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225491
It's not a myth at all
Although, my scratched Mass Effect installed without incident on the NXE, which means I can play it now!
It's not a myth at all
Although, my scratched Mass Effect installed without incident on the NXE, which means I can play it now!
Kill Your Masters
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It was a myth?
xDEILGYREx
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Both my early near-launch 360s would scratch selected game disks.
Some disks would play fine without any issues, other games like FAR CRY INSTINCTS PREDATOR would get scratched to hell for no reason.
My 360 is always laid horizontally, on a stable entertainment unit.
It was out of warranty, so I cracked the box open and cleaned off the DD laser with a Qtip and greased the pins and screw shaft. That seemed to help.
I watched a couple of vids on YouTube which pointed the finger at a supposed magnet in the top of the DD, but my DD didn't have such a magnet.
Some disks would play fine without any issues, other games like FAR CRY INSTINCTS PREDATOR would get scratched to hell for no reason.
My 360 is always laid horizontally, on a stable entertainment unit.
It was out of warranty, so I cracked the box open and cleaned off the DD laser with a Qtip and greased the pins and screw shaft. That seemed to help.
I watched a couple of vids on YouTube which pointed the finger at a supposed magnet in the top of the DD, but my DD didn't have such a magnet.
Definitley not a myth. I got a 360 because of Oblivion and scratched the SHIT out of it on the 1st day. Didn't know any better and tried to turn it on its side while the game was starting up... found out later about the huge gash in the disc. Fortunately I was able to swap it out at CC for a different one.
My The Orange Box disc is scratched beyond belief. Sometimes it freezes when loading a TF2 game (I'm not sure if this is because of a scratched disc because it'll work the vast majority of the time), but the real problem is I can't install it to my HD because I keep getting a disc error.
I keep my 360 vertical and never move it when playing.
I keep my 360 vertical and never move it when playing.
My roommate lost his copy of Gears of War 2 to this "myth" yesterday. On that note, is there anyone he can call / write to about getting a new disc due to the scratches? or is he boned and he needs to buy a new copy. I figured he could call someone about it (as I remember people getting their copies of Halo 3 replaces when they were scratched).
Anyone know? I feel bad for him because he was WTF addicted to the online multiplayer, but at least now I can play some LBP cause the TV is free.
Anyone know? I feel bad for him because he was WTF addicted to the online multiplayer, but at least now I can play some LBP cause the TV is free.
infinityBCRT
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Disc scratching is real... but only on the early models of the 360 where the laser didn't have the rubber protectors around them which would have prevented the laser contacting the disc, which causes a scratch. But even with those systems, you'd need to either have your 360 on an uneven surface, have it vertical, or move it while it is in use to have a scratch happen.
How is this a myth? Weren't there videos available online of people showing it was very real and demonstrating how it happened?
I had this happen to my Rock Band disc. The 360 caused a large, circular groove on the disc that was quite noticeable and resulted in many disc read errors while trying to play.
I called up MS and after arguing with customer service for a while they still refused to replace the disc, but sent me a copy of Viva Pinata instead. I called up EA and after going through a few different CSRs, I finally found one that sent me a brand new game disc for free. I suspect this is the exception and not the rule. This was right near the launch of RB and I suspect that they told the CSRs to just replace everything since all the hardware was failing and someone accidentally decided to send me a free disc.
I had this happen to my Rock Band disc. The 360 caused a large, circular groove on the disc that was quite noticeable and resulted in many disc read errors while trying to play.
I called up MS and after arguing with customer service for a while they still refused to replace the disc, but sent me a copy of Viva Pinata instead. I called up EA and after going through a few different CSRs, I finally found one that sent me a brand new game disc for free. I suspect this is the exception and not the rule. This was right near the launch of RB and I suspect that they told the CSRs to just replace everything since all the hardware was failing and someone accidentally decided to send me a free disc.
Ninja Kn1ght
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My Halo 2 disc got scratched when the console got knocked over while it was running. I blamed myself for knocking it over but now that I think about it, I guess that usually doesn't damage discs.
infinityBCRT
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wotter said:I thought this was common info by now? Hardware.info did some research and found that early drives didn't have any protection (remember the Kassa incident some time ago):
unprotected 360 drive:
protected drive:
Thats what I was talking about.
And for the 360s with the unprotected lens, it is VERY important to have it on an absolutely flat surface. On the carpet in my room I can get grinding noises even though my 360 is technically flat on it. On my TV stand I've never had that happen though.
bathala said:
That's what I thought. But I still get "Disk Read Error" on my installed games. I mean wtf is that. Gears of War, Burnout Paradise, and GTA 4 all give me DRE after a few minutes of play, even though they are installed. And no, I've never moved my console when it was on. Ridiculous
infinityBCRT
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Zoe said:
No red ring yet and its 2 years old *knock on wood*
In fact the only two times where I noticed a GPU screw up over the last 2 years (screen went green), it was when it was in the TV stand's shelf (which doesn't have any walls to block air). Its never happened in my room-- although perhaps I'll try to put something underneath my 360 just to be safe.
I had my 360 on an even floor, laying flat, and nothing in the room was moving when it scratched my Oblivion disk the second time(I already had taken back one scratched disk). It's fine now, since I took it back and the second 360 lasted me well over a year, but there is no doubt that some first generation of 360s scratched disks.infinityBCRT said:
Back when I was looking into getting my first Oblivion disk replaced, the deal was that Microsoft would replace the scratched disk with PDZ. I just took the disk back both times. If your friend has a receipt and didn't buy Gears until a couple days after launch(less then 30 days ago), he could try taking it back. Other then that, I have no clue what MS's current policy is. And hopefully I'll never need to research what it is.Madsucktion said:
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