An E3 like this only comes once every 8-10 years. He is probably just as excited as we are and has long prepared the ban hammer. It's going to be glorious. 1-2 GAFers have made statements close to ban bets on the POWA OF DA CLOUD TM
Isn't it better for MS to shut up for a moment and clear everything up at E3?
So it's like sim city, they spin some bullshit to cover the drm. Disgusting.
The problem is we don't know if they would go the Steam route. It's unfounded optimism and just a guess. Steam has competition from Amazon and GoG for example. Why should MS make games cheaper if they don't have to?E3 will be very telling. To be honest, I am not on any side but I do like to see interesting uses of new tech.
There does seem to be a crazy amount of negative press for MS but they did create much of it but the majority is from people just venting and causing way more of a ruckus that there really needs to be.
I would personally like MS to go the Steam route but then people would still not be happy because its MS.
The problem is we don't know if they would go the Steam route. It's unfounded optimism and just a guess. Steam has competition from Amazon and GoG for example. Why should MS make games cheaper if they don't have to?
So it's either always online required, or this "cloud" PR speak is all bullshit. Every 24 hour check in would not be able to use "the infinite power of the cloud."
No thank you. Gaf may have a track record for hating on Polygon or anybody who is even slightly positive about Microsoft, but Polygon does some really amazing Features.
This thing is DRM in it's heart, from end to end and then outward throughout infinite space in all directions.
The only thing MS is trying to future proof here is their profits. They are covering their bases on every last mechanism of control possible.
I always prefer to go on the more optimistic route. Life is way too short to be worrying about console specs and confusing PR speak. Just give me some games I want to play and I don't mind too much.
You would think that the Steam way would be the best idea for them to follow, since the majority of PC gamers have no issues in their style of semi-DRM.
"Its always Online"
"Its not always Online."
"Its always Online"
"Its not always Online."
"Its always Online"
"Its not always Online."
Etc.
Make up your fucking mind MS. At least be honest that this console is an anti-consumer joke of a system, with paper thin justifications.
Steam works because the games are cheap and their sales.
Now,look into my avatars eyes and aswer me fairly.
Do you see a company like MS is realy gonna offer their games at 30-40$ or give game bundlesales for less then 15$?
think long and hard.
Yeah, because the games are cheap. I hate Steam DRM, but I can live with it, because all the games I want to play are insanely cheap. I don't need the used games market, because I pay so little for so many awesome games.I always prefer to go on the more optimistic route. Life is way too short to be worrying about console specs and confusing PR speak. Just give me some games I want to play and I don't mind too much.
You would think that the Steam way would be the best idea for them to follow, since the majority of PC gamers have no issues in their style of semi-DRM.
As I said, who gets to decide when they are no longer required? Also reason two is exactly why people are against online DRM - why should we have to stop playing our games just because Microsoft says they're releasing new tech?When the services are no longer required or MS supersedes them with better tech.
Yeah, because the games are cheap. I hate Steam DRM, but I can live with it, because all the games I want to play are insanely cheap. I don't need the used games market, because I pay so little for so many awesome games.
But Steam sales are not a result of the non-exisiting used games market or Valve's consumer friendliness. They exist, because Steam has direct competition, since the PC is an open platform.
If MS goes this route, no one can predict what they will do. Since they have no competition on their platform, I don't see any reason why they would introduce something like Steam sales. People are probably going to buy the games at $60 anyway and MS knows this.
As I said, who gets to decide when they are no longer required? Also reason two is exactly why people are against online DRM - why should we have to stop playing our games just because Microsoft says they're releasing new tech?
I'm going to guess that the system itself is "check in once a day", but if you want to play one of the 'cloud-enabled' games, they're online-only.
I'm not questioning this, but this article is not one of them. The headline is:It seems to me like the press is just repeating the same nonsense over and over again. Yeah, we know that Microsoft has prepared 100 different statements that make all of this look like it's the best thing that could ever happen to anyone – man up and question their marketing phrases for once, please!
Not calling for a ban on Polygon, but they've been absolutely terrible at questioning whatever crap gets thrown at them in any way.
I'm not questioning this, but this article is not one of them. The headline is:
"From Xbox One to Xbox None: The risks of an internet-required gaming console"
The closing sentence reads as follows:
"The Xbox One is shaping up to be a paradigm-shifting console. The question is: Does anyone want the new paradigm?"
This is a negative article make no mistake.
He is likely referring to all the bans he will hand out over broken fanboy dreams. A moment like this only comes every 8-10 years. He waited long enough.
I'd like to congratulate the OP on the use of the severely under-utilized military acronym "BOHICA"!
You would think that the Steam way would be the best idea for them to follow, since the majority of PC gamers have no issues in their style of semi-DRM.
If you say so.If Sim City did not have all those terrible launch issues, it would have been a non issue.
Of course that was nonsense and the article is not as negative as it could be, but the OP makes it sound like the article is just repeating Don's words.Bullshitting is a paradigm?
If you say so.
I had already decided not to buy Sim City before launch, based on it's always online DRM.
If Sim City did not have all those terrible launch issues, it would have been a non issue.
Did Polygon really just create an article around a week-old quote?
So if Sim City wouldn't have been fundamentally broken, nobody would have complained about it being fundamentally broken?
I don't mind games that require internet connections if there's a reason for it, I play lots of online only multiplayer games. I won't support a game that uses online only purely for DRM, which it turns out, is what Sim City did. All their claims to the contrary turned out to be bullshit.Connecting to the net to play a game was a non issue for me but thats just me of course. Some fans must have had unreliable internet access, so it was not an option for them. Or they just hated EA for everything they do and would not buy it regardless.
It is telling that I put loads of time into SimCity and when I got the first world wipe, I stopped playing.
I don't mind games that require internet connections if there's a reason for it, I play lots of online only multiplayer games. I won't support a game that uses online only purely for DRM, which it turns out, is what Sim City did. All their claims to the contrary turned out to be bullshit.
I just don't want to support anti-consumer practices that make my experience poorer. If I have to connect to Xbox every 24 hours, then I'll simply not buy the console.
Dude read the article first. The OP is terrible. The article is not positive at all.Why isn't polygon a banned site yet?
They spent weeks parroting obvious EA lies about cloud computing even after they were proven false. Not to mention basically the whole staff basically worked as free EA PR on twitter during this time.
This all sounds so dang similar to when the Wii came out and didn't have HD capabilities. People were pulling stats out of everywhere defending Nintendo because most of the world didn't have HD televisions etc. Now, people are doing the same, except to bash MS. All of a sudden, everyone has shitty internet. "What if, what if, what if?" Really, A FUCKING CABIN!!?? A FUCKING CABIN?!! Here's an idea, look at nature while you're in your log cabin. Spend time with your family while in your cabin. So he can't complete that oh so important level of Max Payne 3 in the "cabin" and it irks him. Yup, let's hold back technology because some can't get a solid connection. "But what about, but what about, but what about?" Nope, you all are right, let's make a system for black and white tv's, that supports vhs, and has an antenna on it. I can't wait to see this applauded when Sony does it. "But they already confirmed ....!!!!" Did they? Uh huh.
What a load of shite, electricity has been around for a couple of centuries and still isnt avaliable for a quater of the population.
If it had worked the way they say it would have worked, what is the problem? Sure people are going to say DRM is why its broken but if it works with no issues, I don't see the problem.