jimmypython
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They will tease a stand alone presentation/event for Versus13 at their 25th event. I'm calling it.
Kagari and I have been told by two separate sources that whatever the third "Lightning Saga" game is will launch in the West (and probably Japan too) before Versus, yes.
Can we ban Kotaku yet?
They will tease a stand alone presentation/event for Versus13 at their 25th event. I'm calling it.
Doesn't seem like it. They're supplementing the XIII staff with assistance from Tri-Ace, which means the Versus team is probably mostly untouched.Man, Square Enix are a train wreck of a studio these days. Embarrasing at times. They need to learn to finish a game before commiting to a new project. Learn from Naughty Dog - 2 studios, 2 mainline games concentrate all rescources on getting one finished before the other. I'll bet they've taken staff off Versus to knock out another XIII title to boot.
Square announced the Dec. release date for 13 at TGS.
Doesn't seem like it. They're supplementing the XIII staff with assistance from Tri-Ace, which means the Versus team is probably mostly untouched.
They're also not just developing 3 FF games and 1 DQ game, there's other games in the pipeline. Committing all your resources to finish one game is not a good plan.
Kagari and I have been told by two separate sources that whatever the third "Lightning Saga" game is will launch in the West (and probably Japan too) before Versus, yes.
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No one is more frustrated by a story being wrong on Kotaku than those of us who work at Kotaku. There's no long-term positive for us if we present a long story cited to anonymous sources that then is refuted by the CEO of the company whose game we wrote about.
I'm frustrated that, after giving Square-Enix three days to comment, they couldn't provide an answer as clear as the one their CEO did on Twitter today. If we thought our sources had burned us and lied to us, we just might out them, but that's not the case here. What is the case is that this situation always was murky and the details of our story explain that. Some questions about the condition and status of this game remain, obviously. For all we know, it still has been transformed into something other than what was initially announced.
At the end of the day, of course, we want you to be able to read a Kotaku story and trust that the reporting is accurate. We want any rumor we run to turn out to be true. In this case we tried for several days to get better details and official confirmation. We didn't start this from nothing. We started this from some talk from sources who have an inside track. We will continue to pursue these kinds of stories.
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The difference between Naughty Dog and Square Enix is that Naughty Dog is a development studio, whereas SE is a large publisher. They're not just a developer, so they need to have their eggs in more than one or two baskets. The model SE should be following should resemble Ubisoft more than ND.That's good to know if true.
I have to disagree about your second statement though. I think 2 games at once with 2 teams is a tried and tested development process that has worked very well for the majority of high profile Western developers. Concentrate on one title while doing the ground work on the second, release the first and then go into full production the the second, while beginning pre production on your next title. That allows a company to avoid development hell on one game because they announce it to early while juggling to many other projects.
Hey everyone,
No one is more frustrated by a story being wrong on Kotaku than those of us who work at Kotaku. There's no long-term positive for us if we present a long story cited to anonymous sources that then is refuted by the CEO of the company whose game we wrote about.
I'm frustrated that, after giving Square-Enix three days to comment, they couldn't provide an answer as clear as the one their CEO did on Twitter today. If we thought our sources had burned us and lied to us, we just might out them, but that's not the case here. What is the case is that this situation always was murky and the details of our story explain that. Some questions about the condition and status of this game remain, obviously. For all we know, it still has been transformed into something other than what was initially announced.
At the end of the day, of course, we want you to be able to read a Kotaku story and trust that the reporting is accurate. We want any rumor we run to turn out to be true. In this case we tried for several days to get better details and official confirmation. We didn't start this from nothing. We started this from some talk from sources who have an inside track. We will continue to pursue these kinds of stories.
If you see doubt expressed within one of our rumor stories, then you can assume the story may turn out to be off in some way. It is on us to be clear about how things might be wrong. And, as in some other anonymously-sourced stories (as in most of our next-gen hardware stories), the lack of many or any qualifications should signal to you about how much more confident we are in those.
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The thing is, that there is no real marketing push about the title in terms of coverage or anything, which is a good sign that its still being worked on. For something this high profile when its close to being ready for the public you actually start to see some media appear but will have the release date still being set as a general timeframe if an exact one is not given yet.
With versus we have not really seen this yet, which is what also makes me think that there is not going to be a release date announcement. I could very well be wrong, but with this little info about the game itself. Dont think they will be letting the cat out of the bag just yet, though if anything might give a general time frame perhaps. Such as Spring 2013 for example.
Thats just how I see it though.
I don't think this post offers anything in the way of understanding how you got this wrong. Your rumour had a serious credibility problem by its very design--it purported to be able to accurately evaluate team morale at the development team (so it would have to be a development source from Japan), media strategy for reporting the news (implying the source was someone in PR or business development), and then you either speculated or reported about stock pricing (you didn't actually clarify if this was your source's speculation, your source's reporting, or your speculation).
You know who your source is. We don't know who your source was. Without even considering the actual rumour itself--that you reported the cancellation of a major game--did your source really seem like, based on their position in the company, they'd have access to the information you reported?
I highly doubt it. Saying "the situation is murky" isn't a mea culpa, it's an excuse. :/
I'm guessing Kotaku will be banned from Neogaf after this?.
I don't think this post offers anything in the way of understanding how you got this wrong. Your rumour had a serious credibility problem by its very design--it purported to be able to accurately evaluate team morale at the development team (so it would have to be a development source from Japan), media strategy for reporting the news (implying the source was someone in PR or business development), and then you either speculated or reported about stock pricing (you didn't actually clarify if this was your source's speculation, your source's reporting, or your speculation).
You know who your source is. We don't know who your source was. Without even considering the actual rumour itself--that you reported the cancellation of a major game--did your source really seem like, based on their position in the company, they'd have access to the information you reported?
I highly doubt it. Saying "the situation is murky" isn't a mea culpa, it's an excuse. :/
Of course it's not cancelled. Did anyone really believe it was cancelled?
Besides Kotaku, I mean. Good to know they're still awful.
I think that is fair that if a anonymous person is a source of the rumor and the rumor turns out wrong then that person should be outed.
Are these types of comments really needed? It wasn't even a proclamation that it was cancelled but a rumor article that was written speculating on whether it was cancelle.d
He should have showed a picture of the city.
Wada semi-redeemed.
Srsly, I thought it was shitcanned. This is great news. Hopefully it'll be released within a year.
(Note: this is a real life image, not an in-game image.)
You shouldn't have thought it was canceled.
But as I was saying before, that rumor sounded like a distortion of something else that's been rumbling. I think that next time Versus is shown to the public, it's gonna be different.
I think that is fair that if a anonymous person is a source of the rumor and the rumor turns out wrong then that person should be outed.
What are the chances of this and FF XV appear at the 25th event?
What are the chances of this and FF XV appear at the 25th event?
So you do you say lol in Japanese?
Very, very, very little. Infinitesimal. I expect Versus to be at TGS, and not the anniversary event -- probably because any Versus news would eclipse a third XIII game announcement or FFXIV 2.0 information. As far as Final Fantasy XV goes, I consider it to be floating in the ether.
(Note: this is a real life image, not an in-game image.)
This.
Although on the other hand, I don't expect XIII-3 to show up at TGS.
(Note: this is a real life image, not an in-game image.)
If you were to see the city etc. presented today, you wouldn't be able to stand from surprise, lol.
A pic from Shinjuku near the Hilton Hotel. Well building next to it anyways.