I imagine they're paranoid after Sonic Mania or joking. It's not going to have DRM.
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Ys VIII delayed last-minute on PC
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I imagine they're paranoid after Sonic Mania or joking. It's not going to have DRM.
MulderYuffie
Member
can't wait for Denuvo! 
Easy 20 bucks. ;P
GoldandBlue
Member
I definitely would have been real worried about that one if Ghostlight hadn't stepped in to help.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Do what you need to do so its right. *is currently reading Schreier's book and you should too*
I'll be the judge of this.
I'll be the judge of this.
phantasmic_glaive
Member
Why is denuvo a bad thing?
Because it doesn't do anything to make a game better while reducing its moddability and making it harder to preserve?
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
I don't think anyone should blame the port developers for issues like this. NISA seems to have poorly managed the PC port project just looking at when they timed the beta, and Falcom games usually have weird issues going from console to PC.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Exactly. *continues reading*
It's just their irrational hatred against Austrian software developers.
Well, and it's DRM, but I think the former is the main factor
Damn Austrians. Did you know that they started both world wars?It's just their irrational hatred against Austrian software developers.Well, and it's DRM, but I think the former is the main factor
Father_Brain
Banned
Unfortunate that it came to this, but better to delay it than to release a Koei Tecmo-quality port.
While it might not have sounded like it earlier, I'm all for better ports etc. Like the new Neptunia game that got delayed until 2018 on PC, its disappointing but understandable. 1 day before release is a kick to the nuts.
coughlanio
Member
Maybe they thought it was good enough and the fans would let performance concerns slide.
If they thought that, wouldn't they have just gone ahead and released it anyway?
Maybe they've come to realise there's no excuse in having a less competent PC port out there after the last two Falcom games NOT published by NISA are really competent, both in localisation and technical engineering.
Personally, I'd prefer XSeed to handle all Falcom IP since they know what they're doing.
Although, I could really use arbitrary resolution support in Ys Seven, but I digress.
Personally, I'd prefer XSeed to handle all Falcom IP since they know what they're doing.
Although, I could really use arbitrary resolution support in Ys Seven, but I digress.
rainking187
Member
I wonder if this will make Falcom reconsider working with NISA in the future.
ScientificPizza
Banned
This sucks, but honestly I've got so much to play already that the wait isn't going to hurt that much
ShadowSoldier89
Member
thats where I'm at. Delay I feel like is actually saving me from dumping $60 on NISA's shoddy translation anyway
Battlechili
Banned
Unfortunately it also likely means it won't have anything near the graphics options normally found in PC releases of Falcom games.
I doubt there'll even be an Anisotropic Filtering option.
CertifiedFP
Member
Ether.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Honestly, I had kind of decided earlier today that I would probably wait until the fall sale (tight on money, and feeling some slight Ys burnout right now), so this doesn't really sting too much for me. Hopefully they get it right and it's in good shape when it launches.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Ouch, honestly though if my only option was the pc version I'd be fine with waiting for a solid product vs a shity port. They are charging 60 for it the backlash would have been harsh if it was sold with how people are saying itEther.
Crazy Diamond
Member
Ether.
💯🔥
MrFortyFive
Member
Ether.
Beautiful
Pyros_Eien
Member
Can always pick the game on PS4 since that one's releasing. Or wait some more for PC.
Last minute warning kinda sucks but I guess they were trying to get fixes until last minute and seeing how they couldn't, they took that decision instead. I doubt delaying a release one day before is an easy decision for them either, it's going to be kinda bad press, even though in the end if they fix the port(since it seems to be a porting issue this time even though they've been making pc games for a while) people will forget about it.
Usual Myamoto quote: "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." Although technically they could release it bad and patch it to be good, but the initial feedback would be really negative and bad steam reviews tend to hurt initial sales a lot if you don't have a huge PR machine behind, like Total War: Warhammer having bad reviews because of the "preorder" DLC stuff even though you could still get the DLC a week after launch for free, and still sold better than every other Total War by a lot, and then kept getting bad reviews cause no chinese version, and still kept selling.
But eh if you want some sweet RPG action this week and don't mind turn based combat instead, there's Divinity 2. I know there was a thread last weekend about Ys VIII versus Divinity 2. They're still fairly different genres so people might not like Divinity 2 style of gameplay but otherwise it's a good time to play that.
Last minute warning kinda sucks but I guess they were trying to get fixes until last minute and seeing how they couldn't, they took that decision instead. I doubt delaying a release one day before is an easy decision for them either, it's going to be kinda bad press, even though in the end if they fix the port(since it seems to be a porting issue this time even though they've been making pc games for a while) people will forget about it.
Usual Myamoto quote: "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." Although technically they could release it bad and patch it to be good, but the initial feedback would be really negative and bad steam reviews tend to hurt initial sales a lot if you don't have a huge PR machine behind, like Total War: Warhammer having bad reviews because of the "preorder" DLC stuff even though you could still get the DLC a week after launch for free, and still sold better than every other Total War by a lot, and then kept getting bad reviews cause no chinese version, and still kept selling.
But eh if you want some sweet RPG action this week and don't mind turn based combat instead, there's Divinity 2. I know there was a thread last weekend about Ys VIII versus Divinity 2. They're still fairly different genres so people might not like Divinity 2 style of gameplay but otherwise it's a good time to play that.
Elfforkusu
Member
rektEther.
rainking187
Member
Decided to request a Steam refund. I can use the money on other stuff right now, and rebuy the game when there's at least an estimated release date.
JustSomeone
Member
They are just afraid of the strong competition on PC this week
People suggesting this is because of DRM, please use that thing called brain a little.
This game is coming out on GoG.
Ultimately this is the best decision out of a bunch of bad options. Will probably give Xseed more leverage for the next Ys game as well.
This game is coming out on GoG.
Can you send me those 20$ right now, I'll PM you my PayPal account. Thanks
Durante has been (and is still) working on Cold Steel.
Ultimately this is the best decision out of a bunch of bad options. Will probably give Xseed more leverage for the next Ys game as well.
GhostTrick
Banned
People suggesting this is because of DRM, please use that thing called brain a little.
This game is coming out on GoG.
Can you send me those 20$ right now, I'll PM you my PayPal account. Thanks
Durante has been (and is still) working on Cold Steel.
Ultimately this is the best decision out of a bunch of bad options. Will probably give Xseed more leverage for the next Ys game as well.
If the game released today, it would've been Batman tier, if worse, of port state.
Ether.
But Ys SEVEN's PC version was 8 years late.
Yeah, I've been saying that in the end people will forget that delay soon after it releases. No one cares anymore that Nier a tomato was released 2 weeks after PS4.
Everyone still shits on Arkham Knight as the worst port in existence and an affront to humanity, even though it's supposedly in good shape now.
You only get one launch.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
And? The series wasn't doing so well at the end of 2010 that XSEED had some great window to commission a PC port of it. They played things safe by licensing fan translations for older Ys games already on Windows, and now we're getting this, without last-minute delays.
GhostTrick
Banned
Yup, exactly. You can blame NISA for not gearing up with a nice port for launch. But you definitely cant blame NISA since they worked hard on this and for not releasing a broken product at launch.
Probably a dick move by me but this makes me extremely wary of buying it even when they do put it out.
Will definitely wait for reviews and impressions whenever that is. Shit must have been tragic. Ys games are 100% must buy for me and to see a delay on the day before release means they messed this up bad.
Will definitely wait for reviews and impressions whenever that is. Shit must have been tragic. Ys games are 100% must buy for me and to see a delay on the day before release means they messed this up bad.
GhostTrick
Banned
For what it's worth, they're doing some nice stuff and planning some really neat things. It's more about technical problems of how things works rather than the choice of features. It's not like Batman or KT ports were resolution or framerate are locked because they dont care and stuff are missing. Game is delayed because they want to please people with a good, polished port.
spindoctor
Member
So do people really believe they didn't announce the delay until the last minute because they thought they could fix it in time? And now that the delay is announced, they can't give a new estimated release date because they don't know how long it will take to fix it?
Is that so hard to believe? I mean for the former you can absolutely blame bad planning and unrealistic scheduling, but nothing about the latter strikes me as unlikely.
BasilZero
Member
XSEED must be laughing at NISA's delay l0l
I just hope Ys 8 runs well in the end.
I've been playing Disgaea PC and I heard at first it was a mess, I bought my copy like 6 months after its initial release and its my third most played game on steam now xD.
Anyways, since I finished Ys Origins, 1 and 2 - I'mma play Oath soon.
I just hope Ys 8 runs well in the end.
I've been playing Disgaea PC and I heard at first it was a mess, I bought my copy like 6 months after its initial release and its my third most played game on steam now xD.
Anyways, since I finished Ys Origins, 1 and 2 - I'mma play Oath soon.
spindoctor
Member
I feel like that scenario is plausible but also highly unlikely. A problem (or set of problems) that will delay your deployment indefinitely rarely creep up on you at the last minute. They had to have seen it coming, at least a few days ago. You can call it bad project management but the cynical part of me thinks that they deliberately held off the delay announcement to get as many pre-orders as they could. I don't know how many people will actually refund a pre-order once they have committed to buying it.
I mean, yeah, I'm not happy about it either, I bought it a few hours before the delay announcement, and it hurts that I spent 50 on something that I don't even know when is gonna come out anymore, but I still think it's better than getting a broken port.