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Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana |OT| Two Systems, Two Heroes, One BIG HOLE
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Yup just stumbled across it. Thanks !
Edit: Holy crap the boss in there was by far the hardest one I fought so far. Doesn't help that it was level 80 and I was 59. So many items used, but he died that's what count
I can't figure how the chest I'm missing in the Big hole. Here's the screenshot of my map. The upper floor is minuscule and I have no chest on it.
Middle Layer
Bottom Layer
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QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yeah he was struggle bus at that level I said fuck this shit and took my toys and went home.... went back to him with a bunch of the end game stuff and at 66.... poor bastard got melted
Also kind of weird is if you fight him at a lower level/early he has a move he doesnt get if you fight him later
Saint of Killers
Member
How do I activate the night version of
? I need to level up a bit to take on the fucker in
and I thought grinding on the
would be a good way of doing that. Alternative location suggestions/methods are welcome.
What's a good alternative translation for
? Knowledge?
Gendarme
Silent Tower
big ancient species in Gen
What's a good alternative translation for
notions
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Knowledge/Life Force/Will.... Fucking NOTIONS has me like why lol
You get to the version at the campsite at the bottom.
Don't grind just to beat him, progress the game like normal and go back later.
there is a point where you will CLEARLY be strong enough to cave it's face in
Saint of Killers
Member
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It's the best Ys game imo
8
Seven/Origin
2/Oath
Celceta
Ark/1
It has a few minor flaws in it's combat rhythms where Origin and 2 are the perfection of their styles but the total package and those minor flaws don't hurt it's standing for how much of a blast the game is and how amazing some of the fights are to the point of being series highlights
Saint of Killers
Member
Thank you for your notions
Appreciated.(Double d'oh at forgetting
Passage of Ancient Species
Gendarme
Sinh_Magnus
Member
It's probably the best ys game for me, but I don't have the same love for the older games as most people, If I had it will probably be a much harder choice. Ys VIII is better than Seven and much, much better than Celteta, but it still repeat some mistakes from those games.
Overall I prefer to separate the games in two groups depending of the party system and rank them accordingly to how much I enjoyed them.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Looking back Seven is in a much better place than Celceta long term as how it plays is pretty unique to itself as a whole where 8 is this massive improvement for what they were trying to go for with Celceta's changes to seven
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
8 is just a better Celceta. BUT! Celceta isn't bad, and I think I even like the designs and personalities of the playable cast in that game more, especially Duren. But 8 is like 95% all around improved upon Celceta in every way.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
There are no actually bad Ys games with any of the stuff released Ark and up.
Like I'll talk shit about Ark all day but it's still better than most games
Edit: last boss time https://go.twitch.tv/qistoptier
See the wee red circle above? That's the one you're missing.
Thanks a lot !
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XisBannedTier
Still havent beaten the last boss yet had to put the system into rest mode and tap out :l
So much freaking hp it's ridiculous Like the legit first time I felt this way about a boss in the series LOL oh well its the last boss and im fighting it "not as intended"
Saint of Killers
Member
Current Ys 8 stage brings to mind Ys Origin's
.
xD Are Adol's Force Edge and Aura Blade skills as totally OP on other difficulties as they are in normal mode? I mean I was spamming FE like crazy even before I got the Saint Ring (skills cost 1/2 HP) and things died *quick*. I did take it out of rotation for a while but since the introduction of the stronger beasts I've added it back in. Ditto AB.
Happy to help : )
The Hall of Reflection
xD Are Adol's Force Edge and Aura Blade skills as totally OP on other difficulties as they are in normal mode? I mean I was spamming FE like crazy even before I got the Saint Ring (skills cost 1/2 HP) and things died *quick*. I did take it out of rotation for a while but since the introduction of the stronger beasts I've added it back in. Ditto AB.
Happy to help : )
Finished up with the true ending, what a great game, really enjoyed that.
Only boss to give me trouble was the one at the bottom of the tower of silence, looks like I'm not the only one to take it on as soon as possible and run into a level 80 boss with a level 60 party!
Enjoyed not having to grind, and also that all the sidequests felt rewarding, even the fishing and cooking ones.
Does anyone know what you have to do to get the 'extraordinary adventurer' trophy? 'Proof that you thoroughly read "Periplus of the Gaete Sea," written by Adol Christin'. What does that mean exactly?
My favourite parts were early on where you had no idea of the layout of the island, but while it fell into
territory later on, the
were a nice touch. Loads of the lesser characters really appealed to me too- Shoebill's gaze will be one I remember. Also,
Just like some the cast, I wasn't sure whether I wanted to leave at the end. Great stuff.
Only boss to give me trouble was the one at the bottom of the tower of silence, looks like I'm not the only one to take it on as soon as possible and run into a level 80 boss with a level 60 party!
Enjoyed not having to grind, and also that all the sidequests felt rewarding, even the fishing and cooking ones.
Does anyone know what you have to do to get the 'extraordinary adventurer' trophy? 'Proof that you thoroughly read "Periplus of the Gaete Sea," written by Adol Christin'. What does that mean exactly?
My favourite parts were early on where you had no idea of the layout of the island, but while it fell into
well-trod Mana tree, apocalypse, priestess, save the world
ancient species
Master Kong, and both seeing the young soldier grow and Dana's friendship with the head priestess in her time.
Just like some the cast, I wasn't sure whether I wanted to leave at the end. Great stuff.
The Saint Ring seems like such a powerful accessory compared to most of the others. The other one I went with was the 'null all status effects' one.
They are undead, you get an item later on that stops undead reviving.
I like to think of it as
the Ys world is an adaptation of our own world but with certain changes. So this story was basically their version of the extinction of the dinosaurs
Saint of Killers
Member
Anyone know who voiced Minos? Sounds kinda like the Crackdown guy...
Absolutely, it made for some relatively fresh creature design, anyway!
Finished the game on Hard last night with true ending. Tons of fun. It's hard not to call this the best Ys with all the content it has and it all being great. I'm usually one to avoid side stuff like the interceptions and suppressions in other games, but man these are fun too, especially suppressions.
I need to go back sooner than later and do a Nightmare run as Hard wasn't really hard and might as well go for that Platinum trophy.
Will probably cheese it with the clear data though because I don't think I can put as much time as I put in my first playthrough again.
You guys playing on Inferno though. Props. I need me those bottles.
I need to go back sooner than later and do a Nightmare run as Hard wasn't really hard and might as well go for that Platinum trophy.
Will probably cheese it with the clear data though because I don't think I can put as much time as I put in my first playthrough again.
You guys playing on Inferno though. Props. I need me those bottles.
Annnnnnnd Platinum achieved. Damn good game, damn good. Not on my same passion as say, the Trails games, but at the same time, it's not as deep as those in the story side, which is what my real investment goes for on those. But this was excellent. My favorite Ys game I've played, and I've had every one since the PSP era.
Bravo Falcom! Though I'd prefer if Falcom's games were localized by Xseed pretty much exclusively, Nisa's quirks showed through, haha.
The English VO was solid though, I enjoyed the cast at large, and the characters were great.
Bravo Falcom! Though I'd prefer if Falcom's games were localized by Xseed pretty much exclusively, Nisa's quirks showed through, haha.
The English VO was solid though, I enjoyed the cast at large, and the characters were great.
Lord of Ostia
Member
Agreed, Duren is the only good Dogi replacement. I like Sahad and everything but...hes no Dogi.
Aaronrules380
Member
Pretty sure that one is just the platinum, so you get it the same way as any other platinum
Oh, I see. As someone who rarely even looks at the trophy lists of most games, let alone trying to platinum them, that makes sense why so few have gained it. Thanks!
The difficulty in the game makes no sense. Im just barely into chapter 5 and there are two enemies on this map that have like 1.5k HP and deal 500 damage and one type of enemy that has like 6k HP and deals 1.4k damage. Both give similar loot and the weaker enemies give way more EXP. And the area before this had enemies that were way stronger than me but the actual dungeon was a joke, and the joke enemies gave more EXP.
I dont get it.
I dont get it.
With Dana's one
there's another trip to the past with the crystal in the village right near the very end
Actually, speaking of Dana (late game spoiler):
she really does go through some rough shit throughout her past sections. The hardest hitting one was talking to one of the twin sisters after the meteor and discovering her sister that you spent the time with is dead. And then the mother comes in afterwards and starts screaming at you for her dead daughter.
Lmao I'm at the OT title inspiration area.
But seriously, loving this game. I put the difficulty on hard forever ago (like Chapter 2) and I'm happy I did because the game is easy but it's so satisfying. Especially when you get a flash guard and dodge together and just own a boss. I'm guessing I have a good 10-15 hours left.
Big Hole should go down in history as a hilarious translation though.
But seriously, loving this game. I put the difficulty on hard forever ago (like Chapter 2) and I'm happy I did because the game is easy but it's so satisfying. Especially when you get a flash guard and dodge together and just own a boss. I'm guessing I have a good 10-15 hours left.
Big Hole should go down in history as a hilarious translation though.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Seven and Ys VI both marked the start of their respective play styles ("party" and "solo-Adol"), but I much prefer how Seven plays. VIII really fixes a bunch of things prototyped and rough in Seven, but the latter game still has great dungeons and bosses, plus having only Flash Guard means you can't utterly cheese bosses like in Celceta later. Music's great, and the art-style holds up even with PSP graphics (which you can fix using the Joyoland HD texture mod). Definitely give it a shot when it goes on sale, which will probably happen this fall.
This is probably a silly question regarding Dana's quests now that I've finished it.
Was there a way to see which Eternian quests were available/remaining? I had 'x Quest complete' pop up when killing some large monsters as Dana, or interacting with events that cause something to affect the world later on, but was there ever anything to keep track of what was available outside of just looking for blue subquest icons on the map? I must have missed something obvious if there was. Vita version in case it matters.
I did find them overly long and repetitive in places, particularly when people decide they need to drag Adol off to apologise or say thank you, again and at length, for him being amazing and inspirational. "You're wonderful." "No, you're wonderful". "Let's keep working together, to the end!" (Repeat x 20)
I loved the game and Falcom's writing is better than a lot of RPGs, but although they are good at providing large casts of likeable, competent characters, it would be nice if they could start adding more minor character flaws or quirks that aren't quickly resolved (usually manifests as character has defrosting personality or character has irrational hatred of x quality), as if any character trait that isn't the party line of 'yay, power of teamwork!' is a weakness to be ironed out rather than a core part of someone's personality. Otherwise you end up like Ys VIII or Trails of Cold Steel, where you have such a large cast of hyper-competent, heroic, modest, friendly and effective npcs that you start to wonder whether they are too polite when they say they need the player. By the end of Ys VIII my camp had
Franz, Master Kong, Dogi, Griselda, the gladiator champion of the Roman Empire etc all hanging around, and even the stay-at-home mum, the tailor and the nun are apparently happily giving ancient species a right kicking in defence battles.
All that is minor gripes though, and TBH I do find the generally heroic, upbeat, adventurous and optimistic themes of many of Falcom's games to be really refreshing. Sometimes I'd talk to Aaron without having any more of the map completed just to hear his disappointed tone of 'you didn't do much' for a pleasant change of pace, that was nicely done in terms of variety, and a level of subtlety I didn't expect. It was nice to have an character whose natural outer grumpiness wasn't resolved through having three conversations with a bunch of young adults.
Thanks...will do.
Also want to mention that even the fishing was fun in this game and I never like fishing in RPGs! These guys really know how to make fun game mechanics. Although, it seems like they said "wonder what I caught" _before_ casting the rod....sort of annoying
I always felt sorry for Sahad going "Im going to catch loads!' before rarely letting him do itThanks...will do.
Also want to mention that even the fishing was fun in this game and I never like fishing in RPGs! These guys really know how to make fun game mechanics. Although, it seems like they said "wonder what I caught" _before_ casting the rod....sort of annoying
Also I'd like to question the castaway's task allocation theory in, when stranded on an island and fighting for survival, sending your only professional fisherman inland to survey the place full of dinosaurs that almost ate him on day one. As opposed to a) fishing for food to feed everyone and b) being one of the two surviving men of the sea present at the start protecting skills that might be very valuable later on. I think I'd have sent Dogi, a professional adventurer, inland instead!
I always felt sorry for Saleh going "Im going to catch loads!' before rarely letting him do it
Also Id like to question the theory in, when stranded on an island and fighting for survival, sending your only professional fisherman inland to survey the place rather than a) fishing for food and b) being one of the two surviving men of the sea present, protecting skills that might be very valuable later on. I think I'd have sent Dogi, a professional adventurer, inland instead!
On the topic of things that bugged...every time Sahad said "I found a treasure chest", I wanted to punch him. _I_ found it...not you!!!
My wife was sitting next to me and happened to glance at the screen when Laxia, upon fishing in a swamp, with water up to her eyeballs and a large carnivore closing in underwater, cheerily said "It's going well!"On the topic of things that bugged...every time Sahad said "I found a treasure chest", I wanted to punch him. _I_ found it...not you!!!
"I can see that", she said. "Believe it or not, this is an improvement on the party's aquatic fortune so far", I replied.
Really enjoyed fishing, mainly because I loved Shoebill. That thousand-yard stare. Luigi's got nothing on him.
I think it's great if you don't take it too seriously.
And you have to take into account that the original is better than the translation. Sure the framing of scenes is still the same, bit yeah I feel like it lost some of its flavor.
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XisBannedTier
I second this notion
I always felt sorry for Sahad going "Im going to catch loads!' before rarely letting him do it
Also I'd like to question the castaway's task allocation theory in, when stranded on an island and fighting for survival, sending your only professional fisherman inland to survey the place full of dinosaurs that almost ate him on day one. As opposed to a) fishing for food to feed everyone and b) being one of the two surviving men of the sea present at the start protecting skills that might be very valuable later on. I think I'd have sent Dogi, a professional adventurer, inland instead!
Yeah, they really should've given us (ME anyway) a better reason as to why Dogi wasn't playable but Sahad replaced him.
Freezasaurus
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Is there a particularly good place to farm energy stones? I need a bunch for weapon synthesis.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Baha tower final room, equip a break plus arm on ricotta and bandit dash/kill the big dudes and little dudes starting from top of staircase then tp back up to heal refresh room