Whenever I go back to the old country to see family I'm always reminded of this movie:
Thanks to the introduction of capitalism and free trade they've become more westernised than any of us.
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Yugoslavia provided USA with necessary technology to win the Space Race
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Whenever I go back to the old country to see family I'm always reminded of this movie:
Thanks to the introduction of capitalism and free trade they've become more westernised than any of us.
Sto?!
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So, three and something years later we got an update:
"Houston, We Have A Problem!" documentary is done, now with cooperation of the almighty HBO and it is heading for the 2016 Tribeca Festival.
It will also be debuting in US cinemas from May 2016.
Here is the official release trailer:
https://youtu.be/Q_oQFplWs_g
Check the OP for the details on the matter.
"Houston, We Have A Problem!" documentary is done, now with cooperation of the almighty HBO and it is heading for the 2016 Tribeca Festival.
It will also be debuting in US cinemas from May 2016.
Here is the official release trailer:
https://youtu.be/Q_oQFplWs_g
Check the OP for the details on the matter.
Funky Papa
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Yugoslavia was notorious for being Socialist but unaligned with the Soviet Union and even open to the West, which caused a lot of tension at the time. Not a lot of people had the balls shown by Tito when he shoved his middle finger into Stalin's face.
The premise sounds a bit exaggerated, but Tito's Yugoslavia was a rather peculiar country and found itself at some of the strangest corners of modern history. I wouldn't be completely shocked if there were some truth to it.
JinjoUnchained
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Yeah, some have accused Tito of indirectly ending the USSR and Socialist states with "the middle way", disproving the prevailing notion that Communist/Socialist states had to center around USSR. Depending on who you ask, Tito is either a hero for keeping peace in the Balkans or a monster for dictatorial suppression. Our family knew an old man who, when younger, used his military position to flea Yugoslavia. He fell more in the "hate him" camp.
Mailenstein
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Tito was a piece of shit, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of this is true. There were lots of weird things going on in Yugoslavia at the time.
Also, lol at Nixon - idiot.
Also, lol at Nixon - idiot.
Funky Papa
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There's so much still to be written about Tito's Yugoslavia. Most American's mock it because of their substandard automobiles, but we are talking about a country that despite chronic and massive underemployment managed to retain enough brain power to create indigenous fighter jets (including a 4th generation multirole plane that was only canceled when Civil War destroyed the country) and a massive underground military airport capable of withstanding the direct impact of a small nuclear weapon. Yugoslavia had a lot of engineering talent, and while it was a small country next to Russia and the Soviet Union, it had relatively close ties to countries such as France to make for its shortcomings.
Edit: It's rare, but sometimes YouTube's comments turn some golden nuggets
While Russians send dogs to space as a test, Yugoslavs send Americans
curls
Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience ð¤
Interesting.
Allegedly -
The Germans also had secret space program(s) during the war. In the late 30's / early 40's the US Naval Intelligence discovered this by embedding 28 operatives which held German ancestry into Nazi Germany.
With the infiltration of covert Nazi programs by US Intelligence the debriefings uncovered the intel that there were two German space programs developing saucer shaped craft. One was civillian based and the other program by the Nazi SS. Both programs had been operational since the 1930's.
Allegedly -
The Germans also had secret space program(s) during the war. In the late 30's / early 40's the US Naval Intelligence discovered this by embedding 28 operatives which held German ancestry into Nazi Germany.
With the infiltration of covert Nazi programs by US Intelligence the debriefings uncovered the intel that there were two German space programs developing saucer shaped craft. One was civillian based and the other program by the Nazi SS. Both programs had been operational since the 1930's.
Glass Rebel
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Oh, can't wait for this. My family is Kosovar and grew up in Yugoslavia (my dad graduated the year Tito died) so I often hear stories about that time. I hope it's translated to German so he can watch it as well.
Funky Papa
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It's a load of bollocks. The Nazis had a ton of oddball designs because they followed an extremely expensive "throw shit to the wall and see what sticks" strategy, but they only had a bunch of early concepts and ideas as engineering efforts were totally redirected towards the war effort early on. Same with the nuclear programme.
Germany's biggest "accomplishment" was the Silbervogel, which would have allowed the Nazis to bomb Americausing a badass spaceplane/sub-orbital bomber that remains totally amazeballs even if it never saw the light of the day.
Mailenstein
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As a Croatian by blood I may be biased towards this, especially because my father went to jail during Tito's regime - I don't hate on others tho. Don't wanna say that gives me some exclusive right to judge Tito better than others, but I don't like the guy for various reasons. Other than that, Yugoslavia during Tito's reign is a very interesting topic for anyone who loves history.
Yeah, I read that comment. Laughed out loud heh..
.curls
Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience ð¤
It's a load of bollocks. The Nazis had a ton of oddball designs because they followed an extremely expensive "throw shit to the wall and see what sticks" strategy, but they only had a bunch of early concepts and ideas as engineering efforts were totally redirected towards the war effort early on. Same with the nuclear programme.
Germany's biggest "accomplishment" was the Silbervogel, which would have allowed the Nazis to bomb Americausing a badass spaceplane/sub-orbital bomber that remains totally amazeballs even if it never saw the light of the day.
Well it could be.
The problem is the article was written in 2011.
The source re the German saucer programs comes from Bill Tompkins who worked under US Naval inteligence during the war then at Douglas Aircraft Company from 1950 to 1963. Working in the think tank "Advanced design" working under RAND with German scientific advisor Dr Wolfgang Klemperer.
Tompkins testimony about the German programs seems unbelievable, but his credentials are not. Having been vetted by Dr Robert Wood who also worked at Douglas during that time frame. Tompkins worked on the Saturn program for NASA. The NOVA vehicles were something else.
Well Superman looks American so I don't see why they can't look Nordic.
curls
Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience ð¤
It is unfortunate that people will latch on to this type of information and ignore the more technical aspects which is more open to investigation. Especially with Dr Klemperer.
TBH Dr Robert Wood "didn't believe a word of it" until Tompkins recalled his experiencs at Douglas / NASA / and Naval intelligence.
I am always more interested in the technical datails than accounts of "off worlders" - having never met any.
Pantaghana
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Sto?!
Ba me zanima koliko nas ima ovdje.
On topic:
This is... very interesting. Yugoslavia being a bizarre country this has equal chance of being both entirely true and a load of bullshit.
Interferon
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Ocito nas ima poprilicno
More Fun To Compute
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Well what is Nasa supposed to say. It wasn't the Yugoslavs who accelerated our space program it was the poached ex nazi scientists after all.
Lord_Balkan
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First Nikola Tesla, and then Vegeta
And now this.
#balkanpride
And now this.
#balkanpride
Trailer: "Drinking expensive American whiskey ..."
Mockumentary confirmed
Bro you best not be hating on Bourbon now.
I'm talking about sphere of influence, and no matter how you dress it up, it seems unlikely the United States would be able to penetrate that bloc so thoroughly it could cart away an entire space program, even a limited one.
Pantaghana
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Tito made his own brand of socialism called Titoism which opposed Stalinism. Stalin tried to get him to fall in line, Tito told him to fuck off. While publicly they pretended to be on good/neutral terms, the relations were actually pretty strained.
In the end the Soviet bloc had no influence in Yugoslavia with soviet sympathizers ending up on Goli Otok, Yugoslavia's Alcatraz.
Yugoslavia then became a founding member of the Non-Aligned Movement, a completely separate power bloc, whose aim is best described as: "That's a nice Cold War you have going guys, keep us out of that shit."
Of course, Tito did continue to build fairly friendly relations with the West, no doubt to piss off Stalin even more for shits and giggles.
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