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Is it normal to be upset that your neighbors are having sex?

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Demon Ice

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In all seriousness I have no idea how you live with a guy that seemingly unstable, I'm getting nervous for you just reading about him.
 

BitStyle

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We don't live in dorms. We live in an apartment. Myself and the angry roommate are both college graduates.

I worry about him to be honest. He is convinced he is ugly (even though he's not). He just got laser eye surgery and is now talking about getting plastic surgery. He has a pretty high paying job now too (80k a year). All he talks about is "getting his revenge" on women and shit.
uhh, that ain't normal.
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This dude your roommate, op?
 
It's stories like these that make me think I may have redirected one of my best friends lives by giving up a drunken threesome and tagging him in so he could lose his virginity. Before that our group of friends considered him a lost cause because of how hopelessly shy he was around women and people in general, but after taking that first step several years ago he has transformed into a charming, confident man.

You need to go out on a mission to get your friend laid. Save his life.
 
According to the angry roommate though, it's natural for animals to get upset when they know someone else is getting laid and they're not. He says we should be just as pissed as he is.

Be careful, he might try and rip your balls off as you come out of the shower in an act of dominance over his perceived territory!
 
It's stories like these that make me think I may have redirected one of my best friends lives by giving up a drunken threesome and tagging him in so he could lose his virginity. Before that our group of friends considered him a lost cause because of how hopelessly shy he was around women and people in general, but after taking that first step several years ago he has transformed into a charming, confident man.

You need to go out on a mission to get your friend laid. Save his life.

You probably did. What age did he lose his virginity? I ask because you described him as a 'lost cause'?

Speaking as an old virgin myself - it's absolute agony. I am even thinking of offing myself over it, honestly. 'Normal' people may find it sounds ridiculous, but try being nearly 30 and a virgin in this day and age, when there's sex everywhere you look. I feel fundamentally broken.

I would not react like the guy the OP is talking about if I heard people having sex, though - I'd probably just feel depressed. I mean, how does the OP's friend manage to watch porn if he gets angry when other people are having sex?
 

Unicorn

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What if GAF collectively recorded themselves having sex with their significant others and we then collected all of those recordings into a single recording for OP's roommate to listen to? How would he react to the collected sex recordings from a forum full of gamers and assumed "betas?"
 
What if GAF collectively recorded themselves having sex with their significant others and we then collected all of those recordings into a single recording for OP's roommate to listen to? How would he react to the collected sex recordings from a forum full of gamers and assumed "betas?"
HULK SMASH PUNY NEOGAF
is how hed probably react
 

lj167

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Like others have said, he clearly needs to talk to a professional about his issues. Maybe suggest going to a counselor to help him with the issues stemming from his breakup?

Does he even realize that he has a problem?
 
OP, I am not exaggerating when I say your roommate sounds terrifying. I wouldn't want be with him in a crowed room, much less alone. That is some serious, serial killer in training shit. I know he's your friend, and I know you love him like a brother...but at this point, if you don't do everything possible to get him the professional help he desperately needs, you are a) complicit in his future crimes b) lying when you say you care about him.
 

kick51

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What if GAF collectively recorded themselves having sex with their significant others and we then collected all of those recordings into a single recording for OP's roommate to listen to? How would he react to the collected sex recordings from a forum full of gamers and assumed "betas?"

here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C5qfMfhjZk


also, the "story starts out kinda quirky then gradually gets more batshit insane" troll threads are sorta funny
 
jesus why doesn't the dude just rub one out or something. I understand sexual frustration but theres no need to throw a rage fit.
 

akira28

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double date with him. be his wingman. also tell him he needs to talk to a therapist because wanting revenge on women because of some shit his ex-gf did isn't the sign of a healthy mindset.

I'm sure he will resist the idea, but it would help him out, just to tell these things to a professional, just so he can see the look on that person's face. He needs to start questioning himself, because somewhere along the line he has gone wrong.
 
You probably did. What age did he lose his virginity? I ask because you described him as a 'lost cause'?

Speaking as an old virgin myself - it's absolute agony. I am even thinking of offing myself over it, honestly. 'Normal' people may find it sounds ridiculous, but try being nearly 30 and a virgin in this day and age, when there's sex everywhere you look. I feel fundamentally broken.

I would not react like the guy the OP is talking about if I heard people having sex, though - I'd probably just feel depressed. I mean, how does the OP's friend manage to watch porn if he gets angry when other people are having sex?

Dude, I know it sucks right now, but once you do have sex you'll look back and laugh. I know that sounds like bullshit but I'm speaking from experience. I lost my virginity fairly late. The only advice I can give is to pretend you're not a virgin. It sounds crazy, but it will help alleviate the stress you're feeling because you won't be thinking about it all the time. You'll also be more relaxed when you end up in a situation that could lead to sex. Anyway, you should make a thread about this. You'll get lots of good advice.
 
This guy sounds like a misogynist with rage issues. People like that are pretty common now but most of them keep that side of them hidden and only let it out anonymously on the internet.
 

MegaMelon

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Yeah your friend needs to get out more OP. Or get noise cancelling headphones. Either way, watch out, you never know what could set someone off.
 
Dude, I know it sucks right now, but once you do have sex you'll look back and laugh. I know that sounds like bullshit but I'm speaking from experience. I lost my virginity fairly late. The only advice I can give is to pretend you're not a virgin. It sounds crazy, but it will help alleviate the stress you're feeling because you won't be thinking about it all the time. You'll also be more relaxed when you end up in a situation that could lead to sex. Anyway, you should make a thread about this. You'll get lots of good advice.

It's not just about never having sex, it's also about not receiving affection from the opposite sex. It's about the underlying problems, and why I've not experienced those things. It seems trivial in your teens and early twenties because you automatically assume it'll happen naturally. But then you find yourself in your late twenties and approaching 30, and it changes to panic and dread, and suddenly you're a freak.

I understand what you're saying though - and thanks. I've got plenty of advice from the dating thread, so I don't think I need to start a new thread.
 
Monitor your friend on Valentines Day OP, I get the feeling this one is going to be brutal. Gonna do a little bit of hating on all the happy couples myself.
 
Your friend has all the indicators of inevitably committing a rape.

He needs help.

No, he has all the indications of lying on his facebook profile and using it to meet random girls online for one night stands the never communicating with the girls again.

He isnt a sociopath. He is actually very genuine with his emotions. Sometimes too much so. He is very upfront with showing how he cares for people.
 
No, he has all the indications of lying on his facebook profile and using it to meet random girls online for one night stands the never communicating with the girls again.

He isnt a sociopath. He is actually very genuine with his emotions. Sometimes too much so. He is very upfront with showing how he cares for people.

Genuine with his emotions. Wants to take revenge on a whole group of people. He's just honest, too honest.
 

CaptainJoel

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No. Don't be hatin' on the sexual prowess of others. If you do, they might just start being loud to spite you. That's what I want to do most of the time.
 
No, he has all the indications of lying on his facebook profile and using it to meet random girls online for one night stands the never communicating with the girls again.

He isnt a sociopath. He is actually very genuine with his emotions. Sometimes too much so. He is very upfront with showing how he cares for people.

Is the former his imagined way to 'get revenge' on women for the way his ex treated him? Because I'd say the bolded statements are directly contradictory, and predatory behaviour like lying to girls so they will sleep with him only to sever contact immediately after is not what emotionally healthy people do. This guy needs help to deal with his issues, and hand-waving it away by saying 'he's not that bad, he's a good guy, honest," is doing the both of you a disservice.
 

Fantasmo

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Wrong place to make a thread man. Neogafers get laid all day everyday. Nobody here is making you a punching bag for the sake of it. This is reality. When they make fun of you, you have to know they are all coming off hot sex all the time. They don't fool around. They need sexaholicsanonymous.
 
Wrong place to make a thread man. Neogafers get laid all day everyday. Nobody here is making you a punching bag for the sake of it. This is reality. When they make fun of you, you have to know they are all coming off hot sex all the time. They don't fool around. They need sexaholicsanonymous.

Love that projection from not actually reading the thread.
 

kick51

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all these diagnoses of the roomie, you guys might have narcissistic personalities....which means you're 100% a budding hitler and are just at the early stages of preparing to commit genocide.
 

Moofers

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You probably did. What age did he lose his virginity? I ask because you described him as a 'lost cause'?

Speaking as an old virgin myself - it's absolute agony. I am even thinking of offing myself over it, honestly. 'Normal' people may find it sounds ridiculous, but try being nearly 30 and a virgin in this day and age, when there's sex everywhere you look. I feel fundamentally broken.

I would not react like the guy the OP is talking about if I heard people having sex, though - I'd probably just feel depressed. I mean, how does the OP's friend manage to watch porn if he gets angry when other people are having sex?

Dude sex is wonderful but also grossly over-rated. I love fucking. I mean it, I think about it all the time. My poor wife has to put up with my constant horniness. That said, I realize this is actually the more fucked up way to live. I'm like you in the way that I put too much importance on it. I think our culture sells unrealistic visions of it and the damage it does on our perception of what it should be is warped. I know I struggled with the idea of feeling bad at 18 because I was still a virgin when it seemed like everyone else in school was living like porn stars. Now at 33 I look back and realize none of it fucking mattered. Your situation is no different. It'll happen eventually and once it does, the time before it will no longer matter.

No need to think you're broken just because you haven't had that one experience in your life yet. Let me tell you dude, women who aren't skanks will appreciate that you're STD free. Put yourself out there and you'll see there are women who will find you safe and likely won't care. No need to be embarrassed or cover it up, just say the right person never came along and reasonable people won't judge.

What are you doing about it? Are you trying to meet people? Let's talk man, I'm all about helping if possible. I had an awkward journey myself but it worked out and I'm happily married. Same can happen for you dude. No need to end it over this. Let's talk, you got GAF at your back so use us!
 
No, he has all the indications of lying on his facebook profile and using it to meet random girls online for one night stands the never communicating with the girls again.

He isnt a sociopath. He is actually very genuine with his emotions. Sometimes too much so. He is very upfront with showing how he cares for people.

Yeah, you're contradicting yourself. You're in denial about your friend, which is understandable because it seems he's been a close friend to you for quite some time.

Everything you're saying about this guy goes against what a genuine person who cares about people would do and say. It's completely contradictory between who he actually is and how you seem to think of him. Wake up to that fact, for his sake and for your own.

Wrong place to make a thread man. Neogafers get laid all day everyday. Nobody here is making you a punching bag for the sake of it. This is reality. When they make fun of you, you have to know they are all coming off hot sex all the time. They don't fool around. They need sexaholicsanonymous.

Way to not even read the thread and make sweeping "neogaffers are all like this" generalizations in one post. You're gonna go far around here.
 
Dude sex is wonderful but also grossly over-rated. I love fucking. I mean it, I think about it all the time. My poor wife has to put up with my constant horniness. That said, I realize this is actually the more fucked up way to live. I'm like you in the way that I put too much importance on it. I think our culture sells unrealistic visions of it and the damage it does on our perception of what it should be is warped. I know I struggled with the idea of feeling bad at 18 because I was still a virgin when it seemed like everyone else in school was living like porn stars. Now at 33 I look back and realize none of it fucking mattered. Your situation is no different. It'll happen eventually and once it does, the time before it will no longer matter.

No need to think you're broken just because you haven't had that one experience in your life yet. Let me tell you dude, women who aren't skanks will appreciate that you're STD free. Put yourself out there and you'll see there are women who will find you safe and likely won't care. No need to be embarrassed or cover it up, just say the right person never came along and reasonable people won't judge.

What are you doing about it? Are you trying to meet people? Let's talk man, I'm all about helping if possible. I had an awkward journey myself but it worked out and I'm happily married. Same can happen for you dude. No need to end it over this. Let's talk, you got GAF at your back so use us!

It does matter because it's fucked me up so much. It absolutely does.

Even if it happened now at 28, all the time that came before will matter because I've missed out on sex while I am young. I don't think anyone in their right mind would say in their 30's that they wished they had missed out on sex in their 20's. I've read online that women see virginity at 30 to be a huge red flag - that the guy in question must have big issues. That the guy probably has no friends, lives in the basement at his mother's house, plays videogames, and doesn't know how to talk to women - the worst thing is every 'loser' cliché checks out. So whilst I'd like to think women would see me as completely safe and an attractive match, the impression I get is that that's not the case at all.

I have very few means of meeting people. Work is pretty much it. I have never had a social circle or friends to hang out with, so that's another reason I've ended up this way. Now I am completely isolated.
 

JohnDoe

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He isnt a sociopath.

He is actually very genuine with his emotions. Sometimes too much so. He is very upfront with showing how he cares for people.

I see...

No, he has all the indications of lying on his facebook profile and using it to meet random girls online for one night stands the never communicating with the girls again.

Yeah alright, that totally matches up. He sounds like someone who cares for people.
All the shit you have told us about him... and you still insist there's nothing about him that could be seen as sociopathic... makes me wonder where you stand with women.
 
I see...



Yeah alright, that totally matches up. He sounds like someone who cares for people.
All the shit you have told us about him... and you still insist there's nothing about him that could be seen as sociopathic... makes me wonder where you stand with women.

Youre basing his red flags off of a few details. Youve never met the guy. Hell youve never even interacted with him. It is hilarious that people can read like 3 details.and say "omg this person is a future rapist. Better watch out. "
 

Pau

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Youre basing his red flags off of a few details. Youve never met the guy. Hell youve never even interacted with him. It is hilarious that people can read like 3 details.and say "omg this person is a future rapist. Better watch out. "
Those details are: "thinks men should dominate women," "is misogynist," and "wants to take revenge on women" yeah, it doesn't sound like someone I'd want to ever be around, as a woman. I"m sure he cares about people, but his definition of people might only include men.
 

FyreWulff

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No, he has all the indications of lying on his facebook profile and using it to meet random girls online for one night stands the never communicating with the girls again.

He isnt a sociopath. He is actually very genuine with his emotions. Sometimes too much so. He is very upfront with showing how he cares for people.

He's not a sociopath, he just acts like one? He pretends to be sociable to women on Facebook for the purposes of having sex with them, then cutting them off to "get" them.

Let's go over what else you've said about them:

The other roommate gets super pissed though. He starts slamming shit really loudly and shouting when it happens. Furthermore he gets pissed at us because we're not upset about it. None of us are getting laid. It's been about a year and a half since either the roommate that gets angry got laid, and about the same amount of time for myself as well. I don't think the other roommate has ever done anything with a woman. According to the angry roommate though, it's natural for animals to get upset when they know someone else is getting laid and they're not. He says we should be just as pissed as he is.

The guy gets angry when other people are having sex. He then tries to not own up to it by saying "this is an animal's natural reaction to sex". When in the first place.. it's not. Secondly, his anger is directed at the woman, as if the guy said "one sex please" and she gave it to the dude upstairs instead of your roommate. Your roommate has weaponized sex and views it as something to use against people and against himself. He feels he deserves sex and starts destroying his living enviroment when he knows he's not getting sex while someone else is.

He has only had one relationship, and it's the one that ended a year and a half ago. It was a very serious relationship, and it ended on her cheating on him by using his money to fly to canada and hook up with a dude she met online. He's still pretty messed up about it.

And his reaction to a woman cheating on him is to intentionally lead on women so he can get into one night stands with them and then cut them off to 'hurt' them, because he views women as a solitary unit instead of individual people. He's angry at someone for cheating on him, and takes it out on everyone of the female gender because he believes they must be all knowing and waiting to fuck him over.

That's a bit difficult, because he's the majority rent payer. We have a 3 tier system in place. He pays half because he has the dedicated parking space and the master bedroom. The other roommate pays about 30% since he has the other bedroom. I pay 20% since I have the living room.

Plus he's also my best friend of 10 years.

So you stick around with him because it's financially easy and you feel you make perfect decisions on who is your friend. The first one isn't an excuse for someone who's mental state will lead them to committing a rape being allowed to continue to build up to a bad situation. The second doesn't matter much, think of his actions instead of your ego of making a "wrong" decision on who to befriend.

We don't live in dorms. We live in an apartment. Myself and the angry roommate are both college graduates.

I worry about him to be honest. He is convinced he is ugly (even though he's not). He just got laser eye surgery and is now talking about getting plastic surgery. He has a pretty high paying job now too (80k a year). All he talks about is "getting his revenge" on women and shit.

So he's a good friend, great guy, but fuck-and-runs women, talks about getting revenge on women as a whole, because once again he views them as a single solitary entity instead of normal human beings. Revenge usually doesn't involve giving people a hug, either.

He already said we'd have some issues, especially if the girl was attractive.

So he's threatened you ("we'll have some issues" is a threat, btw) to not have sex with a woman in your OWN apartment because he views a woman having sex but not with him as an affront. So not only does he have all the indications of being a controlling turd, he's now controlling YOUR sex with threats.

Well, since I'm in the living room, I was planning on only having sex when no one was home. I'd notify everyone I need private time and shit.

You're already planning your life around someone that has threatened you over bringing a woman home and gets physically violent when he knows someone is having sex. It sounds more like you're a hostage than a roommate.

Southern California. He could cover the rent himself easily, but he brought us in so he wouldn't have to be alone anymore. He hated coming home to an empty apartment. So it's more like we're here in part for his companionship.

It's not your job to keep him company.

Oh, he knows it's a load of crock. Her thoughts on economics and shit. But he's taken her message on how men should dominate women to heart and agrees with that.

He thinks it's as load of crock but still believes it anyway.

As far as I can tell, it's relatively knew. He's always been slightly jealous of dudes who get laid when he doesn't.

He's gotten much darker ever since he started listening to the audio book of Atlas Shrugged while he was recovering from his PRK procedure.

He didn't get those ideas from the book, he's using them to justify his fucked up world view.

I don't mean to make my friend sound like a sociopath. He's really not. But sometimes he just goes a little off the rails and it's alarming

Yeah, I'd be alarmed too if someone got physically violent towards the idea of a women having sex not with him, feels all women should be dominated by men, and talks about getting revenge on women. Why should a woman ever be alone around this guy?

Its an ongoing process. I cant help him overnight with his issue witb women. And in any case I dont really think he hates women anyway. I think he was hurt by one woman and now hes bitter about it. Once he is in another relationship I think he will get over that "revenge" shit.

He's just going to end up hurting her or victimizing someone who's been abused before and will fit into his pattern of abuse. He needs to talk to a professional, because his views, emotional state, and actions indicate he will use sex to harm someone in the future.
 
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