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SOCOM Confrontation - The thread (bringing back the REAL!)
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drakesfortune
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I really don't understand why Insomniac is still the only developer making next gen games that seems capable of delivering a game on time. How are they able to pump out three great titles, and these guys in three times the amount of time can't get one out on time? July or even August would be a perfect time for SOCOM, but if it's going up against the fray in September, it's stands less of a chance of standing out.
I honestly can't believe Killzone got pushed back to fall too. If it goes into 09 it is officially on my do not care list anymore. There are too many great titles coming out in the next 9 months, and Killzone is losing all its hype by being pushed back. It's also going to suffer from the problem of not being as impressive because Resistance II and games like that are going to probably be close to what Killzone has to offer in terms of tech. Who knows what we'll be seeing in 09 on the PS3, but I know that Killzone 2 won't seem as impressive then.
I honestly can't believe Killzone got pushed back to fall too. If it goes into 09 it is officially on my do not care list anymore. There are too many great titles coming out in the next 9 months, and Killzone is losing all its hype by being pushed back. It's also going to suffer from the problem of not being as impressive because Resistance II and games like that are going to probably be close to what Killzone has to offer in terms of tech. Who knows what we'll be seeing in 09 on the PS3, but I know that Killzone 2 won't seem as impressive then.
tuco11 said:
Yep.
On the bright side, if you're a GAP member you'll more than likely get to play the beta for a month from July to late August. That's some what the same time frame Zipper took with Socom II. The game had a beta for a little over a month, then came out in November.
If you guys haven't registered your PS3's online, now is the time to do it. Just head over to Playstation.com and sign up. Look on the back of you're system and input your number near the bar code.
I honestly don't see how the old maps are going to feel the same with twice the amount of players, but I'll guess we'll have to wait and see...tuco11 said:
32 players on Crossroads sounds like a complete clusterfuck.
The map was "busy" enough with just 16, imagine 32...
*shudder*
The more I hear about the game the more it sounds like all the "SOCOM II in HD!!!" talk was just simple PR bullshit to bait old fans of the series who moved on to other pastures.
drakesfortune
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Kittonwy said:Naughty Dog delivered on-time.
Well Uncharted is my favorite next gen title, so don't get too mad at me. Their release time is still less impressive than Insomniac's though, and I don't see screen tearing in Ratchet.
Screen tearing and all Uncharted is still my favorite game this gen though, but I wish they would have done more to at least reduce the screen tearing in the big open areas. When Uncharted II is announced it will be my most anticipated game, so don't be too sad litty Kitty.
Safe Bet said:
Let's talk about the old maps and how/where they could be expanded upon, where 32 players will not seem over baring to either side.
None of us have seen the new XR's, so who knows how much they've added to the East and West portions of the map that were blocked off. Hell they could switch up the spawn points, add an under ground tunnel, more towers.......ect. It's limitless really.
A page back I mentioned that they could make the roof on Chain Reaction go all the way across the entire building. That right there is as simple as it gets, and would radically change the way both side would play that map. Add a stair case on the terrorist side so that they could access the roof, and bam; here's my money.
What ever they do to make the maps larger, I just hope that it limits the amount of frags that are tossed as soon as rounds start. The Ruins is a perfect example of a great map that could go even bigger for 16 player games. Far to often you would see people running right up and tossing nades over top where the bomb pick up was located. There needs to be a little bit more time in between how far each side has to travel to get to where the other team spawns. No much time, but a few seconds more than a few of the maps offered.
What's more impressive to me is the support they have given Resistance post-release.drakesfortune said:
It puts every other developer, both PC and Console, to shame..
(I guess Bungie deserves a mention in this regard though, right?)
If only I enjoyed the gameplay in Resistance more (radar and weapon switching kill it for me)...
*sniff*
GQman2121 said:
Like I said, the more I hear about the game the less it sounds like a SOCOM II remake.
In fact, the more I hear the more I doubt the game will be a Day 1 purchase for me.
All they had to do was turn SOCOM II into an HD game and all the old fans would have eaten the shit up, but no that was just too fucking simple.
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drakesfortune said:
in·som·ni·a noun inability to obtain sufficient sleep, esp. when chronic; difficulty in falling or staying asleep; sleeplessness.
in·som·ni·ac noun 1. a person who suffers from insomnia.
...thats the only reason i can think of :lol
Call me crazy, but the new stuff I've heard about so far doesn't bug me.
Sprinting - I'm not passing judgment until I play it myself. But seems like a fine addition
Open Mics system - I'm liking what I'm hearing. It's the kind of thing I wanted.
No custom Ranked rooms - I'm fine with this as long as there is still stat tracking for unranked/custom
September 16th - I was really expecting July, but I'm fine with September
Sprinting - I'm not passing judgment until I play it myself. But seems like a fine addition
Open Mics system - I'm liking what I'm hearing. It's the kind of thing I wanted.
No custom Ranked rooms - I'm fine with this as long as there is still stat tracking for unranked/custom
September 16th - I was really expecting July, but I'm fine with September
Opus Angelorum
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TTP said:
And I'm in love with TTP, do I qualify?
Agent Ironside
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Havnt been on in like a year but sure lol.
Actually friday night would be a little better for me.
Video gameplay in HD (1280x720)
http://rapidshare.com/files/102865915/socomconfrontation.wmv.html
IMHO, horrible game
~Devil Trigger~
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WolfAlex said:
WolfAlex said:Video gameplay in HD (1280x720)
http://rapidshare.com/files/102865915/socomconfrontation.wmv.html
IMHO, horrible game
That's a year old. The new screens look a lot better.
WolfAlex said:http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7940/000007nl3.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1607/000112br8.jpg
IMHO, horrible game
Epic FAIL!
mckmas8808
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Wollan said:
The problem is how can you play Socom Conf., Killzone, and Resistence 2 online all within 3 months?
Broadbandito
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WolfAlex said:
IMHO you're a horrible JM
Gamecocks625
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WolfAlex said:
Heck, all games suck a year and a half before release
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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WolfAlex said:
Junior...
~Devil Trigger~
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Gamecocks625 said:
but is that your humble opinion?
GQman2121 said:
Right!
The plan is simple. Extend and DONT recreate. Crossroads wasn't busy with 16. It was perfect for 16. The teams of 8 with usually split evenly across the three available walkways and you'd have small battles of 2v2 or 3v3. So when they double the numbers, you just double the amount of space at the chokepoints (remember there were alot and only 2 or so people could fit in these connecting alleys that connected the roads and center square) and provide more cover. I imagine why people feel SOCOM will be smothering with 32 is because of grenades. Grenades were stupid in the first two anyway so some fine tuning to counter-strike levels (moderate distance, moderate damage) should ease everyone's concerns. Lets just hope they don't continue to let people ken griffey jr. balls over buildings n' shit.
Agent Ironside
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Oh gentle jesus leave chain reaction out of this.....lets talk about....Desert Glory YESSSSS.
I want DG at night (already done in s3?) Didnt play s3.
Oh and Ruins, nade fest 2004, didnt really like this map but yes, the only time when more players wouldnt be good for that map is in the first min of the round, im not tryin to lag out you know, but yeah, more area between the spawns and bomb house would be great. Blizzard would be great also, you might could fit even more players in that map the way it is. But please, please give me my day time Abandon back!
I see this sort of stuff all of the time and without knowing what goes on behind the scenes, no one can say for sure. Killzone and Guerilla are an easy answer, they had to make Killzone: Liberation and support it with free DLC. Slant Six is a small team and more people can't be added because the game is supposed to be a budget title. Plus, if the September release holds, the game would have taken less then 2 years to make.drakesfortune said:
I had a long arguement with Kittonwy about this. I even made up a long list of all Sony's developer's outputs and how they all contribute. The main reason why others aren't in Insomniac's position is because Insomniac didn't develop for the PSP and left the PS2 fairly early. I guess ND did the same, but Uncharted was fucking awesome so you really can't get on them for a somewhat slow output. And they have a relatively small team.
King_Slender
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GQman2121 said:
This. Can you imagine:
July - MGS
August - SOCOM/Madden (though I'm not a fan)
Sept - LPB/Killzone/Fallout 3
Oct - Motorstorm 2
Nov - Resistance 2
That would be 5 months of awesome.
ZeroTolerance
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Doel said:
Sounds good. Can't wait for this one.
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King_Slender said:
someone here was sent to die
Who? well, we'll find out on the next, FALL!
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