BobFromPikeCreek
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Good lord. How low do you set your stick sensitivity? If you can't make a 45 degree turn on a gamepad in that much time you either suck of have the sensitivity set waaaaay to low.Bluemercury said:
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Mirror's Edge in-game video. Wash away that "next-gen" cynicism instantly. MUST SEE
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rollingstart
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Bluemercury said:
I do agree that mouse is the best tool for accuracy, but in the previews they talk about inertia being a big factor in your movement. With a keyboard, you can either run forward or back, to walk you usually hold down a button. I am not totally sure how this game is played, but I think the ability to simply slow down your speed without coming to a stop would help. I am just assuming right now, but in my mind the way I think it will control, I just see the crutch of using analog for aiming is worth it since you have an analog for movement as well.
and while I do think mouse is the best with FPS games, I don't have a big problem with compromising for console only shooters.
Bluemercury
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BobFromPikeCreek said:
Good lord or bad lord, it still doesnt change the fact that analog sticks have a limited degree movement when compared to a mouse and wiimote. And sensitivity doesnt solve these limitations.
Kitschkraft
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Looks awesome.
Faith looks really spunky and I love it! The Singapore-ean colors are a fresh breath also, and parkour is too cool =)
The momentum based mechanics and think-on-your-feet gameplay sounds like a thrill too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibUZP86HX-4&feature=related - GameTrailers interview with Producer Tom Farrer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zZKRVkZvtA&feature=related# - Gamereactor interview with Producer Owen O'Brien
And this three-part interview by Gameplayer with Tom Farrer also
Part 1 - http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/P...aspx?CID=2b445aba-9806-40e6-9bf7-2fadebfe79b8
Part 2 - http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/P...aspx?CID=31a61bfb-8efb-4eff-8b5d-650aaed7dcdb
Part 3 - http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/P...aspx?CID=2f2e5366-e290-4738-9582-3dcaa7f7e4cc
And the story is actually written by Rhianna Pratchett who wrote the stories for Overlord and Heavenly Sword. (Yes she is daughter to Terry)
Arstechnica has two interviews with her about writing those two games:
http://arstechnica.com/articles/cul...talks-Heavenly-Sword-Sony-and-Andy-Serkis.ars
http://arstechnica.com/articles/cul...-writer-and-co-story-designer-of-overlord.ars
(Maybe the essentials could be added to the OP?)
The momentum based mechanics and think-on-your-feet gameplay sounds like a thrill too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibUZP86HX-4&feature=related - GameTrailers interview with Producer Tom Farrer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zZKRVkZvtA&feature=related# - Gamereactor interview with Producer Owen O'Brien
And this three-part interview by Gameplayer with Tom Farrer also
Part 1 - http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/P...aspx?CID=2b445aba-9806-40e6-9bf7-2fadebfe79b8
Part 2 - http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/P...aspx?CID=31a61bfb-8efb-4eff-8b5d-650aaed7dcdb
Part 3 - http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/P...aspx?CID=2f2e5366-e290-4738-9582-3dcaa7f7e4cc
And the story is actually written by Rhianna Pratchett who wrote the stories for Overlord and Heavenly Sword. (Yes she is daughter to Terry)
Arstechnica has two interviews with her about writing those two games:
http://arstechnica.com/articles/cul...talks-Heavenly-Sword-Sony-and-Andy-Serkis.ars
http://arstechnica.com/articles/cul...-writer-and-co-story-designer-of-overlord.ars
(Maybe the essentials could be added to the OP?)
You know it's weird to say it, but even though I'm going to buy this game on PC I'll probably use my gamepad to play it. I don't think the platforming would feel as good on the mouse and keyboard, and since combat isn't the main theme it won't make a lot of difference when it comes to aiming.
I noticed a call for the music from the trailer, so I quickly got the audio from the second half of the trailer, the part without any sound effects.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zio0pi
If you guys want, I can also just put up a direct rip of the audio from the whole trailer, complete with footsteps, Faith's breathing, etc. Let me know.
EDIT: Fixed link.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zio0pi
If you guys want, I can also just put up a direct rip of the audio from the whole trailer, complete with footsteps, Faith's breathing, etc. Let me know.
EDIT: Fixed link.
rollingstart
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Tntnnbltn said:Unless she was born without an upper arm, her hand shouldn't be ending at her navel.
vs
(I know it's not a completely fair comparison, as the first pic is rotated and not falling, but you get the gist)
This reminds me of the scene from Boondock Saint where they are talking about how the guy was shot in the head and figured out it was two shooters. Basically, Faith is secretly two people with one set of legs who are both shooting with their left arms that have right hands pasted on.
Yoboman
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Because there's no way her arm could be bending at the elbowTntnnbltn said:Unless she was born without an upper arm, her hand shouldn't be ending at her navel.
vs
(I know it's not a completely fair comparison, as the first pic is rotated and not falling, but you get the gist)
In any case, even that looks awkward. There are plenty of other scenes showing her body looking perfectly normal
Future PhaZe
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Lykathea said:
I never played it. Is this a good thing or bad?
rollingstart
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Lykathea said:
It wasnt really bad.
Granted, I could be only remembering the cool cutscenes and how awesome Kai was, but yeah...I dont remember it to be bad.
The following is my opinion and nothing more (may contain *spoilers*):
All the characters sucked and their relationships to one another were plagued by an aura of extreme uninterestingness. Even when the game had decent potential to play with the malevolent father and submissive son scenario (about the only remotely intriguing relationship in the game) it goes and cripples itself by resorting to low-brow slapstick with little to no significance--and unfortunately the childlike slapstick (N.B.: this is not even good, clever slapstick a la Chaplin, Keaton etc.) seeps into pretty much every other relationship forcing me to question if the entire purpose of the narrative in the game is to retell a three stooges episode in mythical China with Andy Serkis' face staring down at me as much as possible.
Don't get me wrong the story isn't all bad (i.e. killing off Nariko at the end) but in general it is boring trash that serves no other purpose than to show off Ninja Theory's amazing digital actor capabilities and to serve up relatively interesting backdrops for gameplay.
All the characters sucked and their relationships to one another were plagued by an aura of extreme uninterestingness. Even when the game had decent potential to play with the malevolent father and submissive son scenario (about the only remotely intriguing relationship in the game) it goes and cripples itself by resorting to low-brow slapstick with little to no significance--and unfortunately the childlike slapstick (N.B.: this is not even good, clever slapstick a la Chaplin, Keaton etc.) seeps into pretty much every other relationship forcing me to question if the entire purpose of the narrative in the game is to retell a three stooges episode in mythical China with Andy Serkis' face staring down at me as much as possible.
Don't get me wrong the story isn't all bad (i.e. killing off Nariko at the end) but in general it is boring trash that serves no other purpose than to show off Ninja Theory's amazing digital actor capabilities and to serve up relatively interesting backdrops for gameplay.
BobFromPikeCreek
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:lol Wiimote? Yeah, turning around in Red Steel wasn't a chore.Bluemercury said:
Masta_Killah
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Sonic Team take note, this is how Sonic should be.
BobFromPikeCreek
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I don't understand how you can "push" the fundamental concept of the Wiimote. The only way to make it work is to point to the edge of the screen to start turning, like Red Steel. It's no more functional than an analog stick for turning in an FPS. Sure you can point at what's in front of you, but turning is not different.aeolist said:
rollingstart
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aeolist said:
Turning in Metroid Prime 3 (what fans consider the best FPS controls) also was poor, and to clairify, I did play with advanced controls.
Lykathea said:
I don't remember much from it, the things that stick out for me were:
1) I didnt hate it
2) Cutscenes were great to look at
3) Kai was awesome
I dont think any of them have to do with the actual writting exactly, but yeah.
BobFromPikeCreek
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So please, explain to me how else they can do it. MoH and Metroid aren't really any better.aeolist said:
You mean it had what you think fans consider the best FPS controls. MP3 had much better turning and aiming than Red Steel, but it was still kind of loose and floaty because Metroid Prime is not a twitchy arcade FPS that needs ultra precision. The last Medal of Honor game was a pile of shit but had extremely customizable (and thus really awesome) aiming controls.Linkzg said:
rollingstart
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aeolist said:
I don't think about what the fans consider the best, that is what they post all the time whenever the subject comes up.
Personally, I think Link's Crossbow training takes it with the Monkey War minigame from Super Monkey Ball at number two.
Never mind, this is way too off-topic. The Mirror's Edge guy said specifically they think the Wii is neat and would like to work on it but this game isn't being developed for it in any way.
Personally I think the controls could work really well with a game like this. Maybe someone will mod the PC game to work with the remote.
Personally I think the controls could work really well with a game like this. Maybe someone will mod the PC game to work with the remote.
BobFromPikeCreek
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So I just have to have an agenda to say that turning in Wii FPS games isn't much better than with a gamepad? Fuck off with that. I don't subscribe to your dumb console war bullshit. I just have an opinion.aeolist said:
edible_candle
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After thinking about it, yea, you're completely right on this one. The Genesis Sonic games were all momentum/physics based, and the goal was to maintain that momentum while avoiding and maneuvering around obstacles. It is unfortunate that they forgot about this after the 16-bit era.Masta_Killah said:
Also, this game looks really interesting. I love the color scheme currently in use, really sets it apart from most games currently on the market. One can only hope they nail the control scheme and make sure there is plenty of variety. I also hope that the levels sport multiple paths, and aren't entirely linear. Keep an eye on this one, I shall.
Himuro said:
The point is that these people are trying to do first person platforming right. We think it's a bad idea because it's never been done well before, but if this game is able to implement it correctly... we have a completely different game. Top to bottom this is something completely different from anything we've seen this generation, from graphic/art style to game mechanics. Even Faith (the main character) deviates from most of the protagonists we've been seeing as of late.
With that being said, this game could very easily be terrible... but it's not hard to see why so many gamers' interests have been piqued.
BobFromPikeCreek
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I just really like the idea of Prince of Persia type platforming in the first person. It'll make the epic leaps of faith that much more intense. If they can pull it off, which I'm hopeful they will, it could be something amazing.Himuro said:
favouriteflavour
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Is that a licensed track or original score in that trailer? Its fantastic.
Visualante
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Original I assume, otherwise someone over at GameTrailers would have posted the source.favouriteflavour said:
SolidSnakex
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Haunted One said:
I'm not sure why, the developers have made it clear the game is being built around 2 analog sticks and shoulder buttons (the want to avoid face buttons). As far as the FP stuff goes, that's a very limited part of the game. Most of the combat is meant to be hand to hand.