That doesn't matter. What matters is that these people be treated with respect and kindness. They should be educated in the native language, their children should go to the same schools as German children. I don't know what the citizenship laws are for Germany, whether or not birth in the country is enough. Most immigrants aren't trying to game the system, they are trying to make a better life for themselves.
It's the same kind of hatred of the poor, nationalistic racism that permeates the Right in America and many Western Nations against immigrants, illegal or otherwise.
Nationalism breeds racism and is an illness to society. Vilification of the poor only benefits the upper crust of society. Laws like this in Germany can only lead down a dark path. Amnesty, support, understanding, and compassion are what is needed to "fix" the problem.
Yeah I fully agree with you.
The problem however is, it's an ongoing problem both germans/immigrants and especially politicians dealt horrible with for ages...
A quick and pretty good example is the immigration of turkish labour in the 50s and 60s in Germany.
With the economic boom that took place within these years, Germany needed alot workers in quite a few different branches, for example the automobile industry.
Alot of those guest workers came from rural populated areas in Turkey.
Basically alot of old fashioned and more conservative/religious type of people, who were quite shocked when they arrived here.
Neither the employers, nor the German goverment took the right steps towards a proper immigration.
A language barrier (even if the worker may have learned the language by the time, the family most likely didn't) and a totally different culture that hasn't really stepped towards them made the immigration mostly impossible.
And what happened ?
Turkish people sticked together (which wasn't suprising considering the problems they faced) and were not immigrated.
The problem that occured over time ?
They kept the values,views from the time they moved from Turkey to Germany.
While the population in Turkey and around the world changed their views on alot of things and became more liberal, those people were still stuck on their old ways of thinking.
That generated quite a few problems with the following generations that followed those footsteps and are now facing quite a few problems..
The goverment failed and alot of the mentioned following generations were not really integrated, sadly.
Keep in mind that it's just a small excerpt.
The big part made it, either they worked their ass off to be accepted and integrated regardless of the diffyculties or they are somewhere in between.
The problem is, the small excerpt I just illustrated overshadows the rest (yeah like always, negative example overshadow the big positive reality...) for alot of people, mostly conservative people.
Right, but can you tell me this is the norm? Can you show me any studies showing that the majority or a significant minority of these people act like this? It's like claiming the majority of Hispanic immigrants to America join the street gangs, which is far from the truth. Nationalistic and nominally racist (not active, violent racism, but societal bred prejudices and preconceptions) ways of thinking use these handful of people as a scare tactic and example of how bad "these people" are. It's disingenuous and dangerous.
Nationalism is the problem here. Nationalism bred an arbitrary division between people, an "us versus them" mentality that hurts everyone. America struggled and continues to struggle with this, but Americans are Americans, whether they were born and raised in Texas or Maine. There are regional quirks and identities but they don't overshadow the greater bond of a shared history and national identity.
Europeans need to stop thinking of themselves as just Germans or Romanians first but as Europeans first if you want the European Union to grow and succeed as a single entity.
This person is just projecting his own bad experiences towards entire groups of people, without even a single thought that these individuals might individuals.
