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I'm getting my nephews' ignored WiiU
- Thread starter Arkanius
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Yeah but a retailer is not family.
A retailer is probably not going to care if a person is offended by the advice. There is nothing personal there.
You keep mentioning that his sister would be offended by the advice. You don't know that. I don't know that.
Imploring someone to inform their sister that something is age inappropriate for her child is what's at stake here. Whether he does or doesn't is clearly up to him and him alone. No more and no less.
evilromero
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I don't think you understand a kid's psychology. He wants to play GTAV because he knows, probably through stories with his friends or playing it at their house, that he'll have fun. It's a fun game. You can't deny that. And for the most part, open world games like GTAV and Minecraft, are the kind of experiences that gamers want. Not just kids, but adults as well. So all of those quality Wii U games (in his eyes) can't even equal the fun that this kid will have with GTAV, a single game. Nintendo isn't a "one shoe fits all" company. So it's understandable why the Wii U isn't necessarily for this kid.
Dude, you're doing the same thing.
The person in question isn't a shitty parent, but buying and allowing a 8 eight year old kid is certainly a dumb decision if it is true.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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That last sentence sounds so much like an old man yelling at a cloud. If only there was an image that captured that sentiment.
I turned out ok having parents who let me watch and play whatever I wanted. It is a totally fine justification in my eyes so
This immature reaction was brought to you in part by Bad Parenting.
EXACTLY, we don't know. So for him to be berated is ridiculous.
BTW, i'm not saying you berated him but others did.
It led you to a life a dispensing drugs! Clearly it's a bad influence.
You should stop being literal. Of course there are families where you can't shriek and yell at each other at will. Speaking from a terrible broken family, there are still times when you can talk to each other. And the next generation of your family is definitely one of those times. It doesn't mean you shriek and yell, it means you use that familial internal code, built up over years of hate and strife, that allows you to put a few sentence together to get them to understand what you are saying.
But he has Lego City, which is an open world game, yes kids want to explore, I understand that...doesn't mean any 8 year old should be playing GTA, period. The kid is playing Wii games, which are compatible. Just seems like the sister is really clueless and is just buying whatever she thinks will appease the child.
Dice
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This is a good idea. Also, the Wii U has "mature" games if the kid wants those. It doesn't have GTA, which he really shouldn't have, but it does have FIFA. It just seems inappropriate and a big waste of money to give in so easily. You say he plays Wii all the time, so why? Does he not like the Wii U gamepad? Does he know he can use the Wii remote & nunchuck? I'd say try a pro controller but it might be a bit big for child hands, yet isn't the Dual Shock 4? What does he play on Wii? Does Wii U not have anything comparable? Are FIFA and GTA comparable to what he is enjoying a lot on Wii?
I dunno. I was a generation behind my whole childhood so I don't get it. The first system we got within a year of launch was Dreamcast, when my older brother was old enough to have a job to get it himself.
Interceptor
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OverturePT
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Don't forget about ZombiU if you are at least somewhat interested in survival/horror games. It's damn good.
SmokedMeat
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Older people have more sense, so that works for me.
Nothing to add, huh? Wipe those offended tears off, son.
I grew up with violent games as well (Solider Of Fortune, Mortal Kombat), but a) they didn't offer the sheer amount of content and options of GTAV and b) the online gaming culture which is poisoned because of spoiled children wasn't as huge as it is now. Of all the games that are available on PS4 there dozens that are just much better for a kid of his age.
But here's the thing: there are people who spoil their children and buy them everything they point their fingers at, even though neither child nor parent exactly know why the child wants it and what the product exactly is. This is part of why Xbox Live turned into the mess it is, because some parents fear confrontation and agree to buy all kinds of shit for their underage kids. I'm not saying that every parent is like that and not that every 8 year old is incapable of experiencing mature games, but that a lot of the shit most people are annoyed of today is happening because of that.
I stand by what I say: GTAV is nothing kids should watch or play, period - fuck the 'cool parent' attitude, you don't grow them up to become their best friends, you grow them up to teach them the right things in life.
evilromero
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Lego City is really a poor substitute for GTAV. It has some of the worst driving physics. There's absolutely no reward for experimenting with driving at high speeds or attempting stunts. There's hardly any way to interact with the world around you.
Compare that to GTA where you have pretty much an endless amount of things to do, exceptionally fun driving physics that result in some very humorous situations, and you can easily see that the kid just wants to have fun. I can't blame him. Sometimes you're just in the mood for a certain kind of experience.
To be fair, your GTA was much less graphic and realistically depicted than what we have today. I grew up on Wolfenstein and Duke Nukem 3D, but I wouldn't compare them to the stuff you can do and see in GTAV especially now that they've got that first person perspective.
That last sentence sounds so much like an old man yelling at a cloud. If only there was an image that captured that sentiment.
I turned out ok having parents who let me watch and play whatever I wanted. It is a totally fine justification in my eyes so.
This immature reaction was brought to you in part by Bad Parenting.
This post doesn't resolve anything or have any purpose. Just saying "hey, I'm okay" doesn't mean anything. There are also parents that let their high school kids drink in their basement to "be cool". Some of those kids turned out totally normal, some of those kids got into car accidents drunk driving home.
A lack of active parenting might not be bad parenting, but it's not something that should be applauded.
Extra Sauce
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So this is what a psychopath looks like before turning into a psychopath.
Solid Samus
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I'm gonna go buy my seven year old some porno, and also the Saw collection on Blu-Ray. Don't worry, I was all into that shit when I was a kid and I turned out just fine
I mean, yeah, I get trusting your kid with mature content if you think they can handle it/if it's supervised but GTA V is on a whole 'nother level from even something like Call of Duty.
I mean, I'm of the perspective that violence and sexuality aren't something to hide away from your children to the degree that many other people do but I can state with confidence that if you think -this game- is appropriate for an eight year old in general you're probably an idiot
I mean, yeah, I get trusting your kid with mature content if you think they can handle it/if it's supervised but GTA V is on a whole 'nother level from even something like Call of Duty.
I mean, I'm of the perspective that violence and sexuality aren't something to hide away from your children to the degree that many other people do but I can state with confidence that if you think -this game- is appropriate for an eight year old in general you're probably an idiot
Amentallica
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Nothing to add, huh? Wipe those offended tears off, son.
I grew up with violent games as well (Solider Of Fortune, Mortal Kombat), but a) they didn't offer the sheer amount of content and options of GTAV and b) the online gaming culture which is poisoned because of spoiled children wasn't as huge as it is now. Of all the games that are available on PS4 there dozens that are just much better for a kid of his age.
But here's the thing: there are people who spoil their children and buy them everything they point their fingers at, even though neither child nor parent exactly know why the child wants it and what the product exactly is. This is part of why Xbox Live turned into the mess it is, because some parents fear confrontation and agree to buy all kinds of shit for their underage kids. I'm not saying that every parent is like that and not that every 8 year old is incapable of experiencing mature games, but that a lot of the shit most people are annoyed of today is happening because of that.
I stand by what I say: GTAV is nothing kids should watch or play, period - fuck the 'cool parent' attitude, you don't grow them up to become their best friends, you grow them up to teach them the right things in life.
There was nothing more to say in rebuttal to your stupid statement.
Solid Samus
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Dice
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Personally I don't find the content/options of GTA5 the issue so much as the attitude with which they are delivered. Only an adult would understand the layers of narrative and what kind of statements it would be trying to make. To a kid it would just be full approval and glorification of everything in it, an indoctrination in depravity. You can go ahead and say that well if they live a normal life as well, it will end up being understood as fantasy, but really that only applies to things that will have immediate consequences if they were to act them out. The deeper messages like belief in violence as a solution, sexism, self worth defined by status and wealth, rejection of social vulnerability, apathy toward strangers, and more like these are things that stick with a person if they are taught them as a child. Boys become pretty fucked up by these things.
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GTA for a 8 year old. That's terrible parenting. SMH.
TGO
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I don't blame him, outside Bayonetta I can't see what he would want to play on the Wii U
I can see people mentioning games that a kid his age would like but in reality it don't work that way, his 8 and would probably rather shoot some zombies then go on an adventure with a plumber, sound wrong but you need to see his prospective on those games
And I'm talking from experience, you just gotta review the games you give them. They want to play games like GTA, COD etc so meet them in the middle, try infamous SS for instance.
I can see people mentioning games that a kid his age would like but in reality it don't work that way, his 8 and would probably rather shoot some zombies then go on an adventure with a plumber, sound wrong but you need to see his prospective on those games
And I'm talking from experience, you just gotta review the games you give them. They want to play games like GTA, COD etc so meet them in the middle, try infamous SS for instance.
SerTapTap
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If the console's already on you have to go into a special menu and you have to use the Wiimote to kick it off. Come to think of it just turning it all the way off then back on with B is probably easier. I wish it were more like PS3 where you just pick the disk and it boots direct, but the Wii having it's own menu and digital games and such probably makes that too hard to implement.
DownWithTheShip
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You should show her the Trevor introduction.
evilromero
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Man, the bitterness in this thread...
I think you misunderstand where I'm coming from. I'm not arguing whether or not it's ethical for the kid to have GTAV. I'm saying there's no question why he WANTS to play it. Because it offers the kind of experience that he can't get on a Nintendo platform in his mind. There's no question that the Rockstar experience of gameplay is sorely lacking at the moment. The sense of play and discovering in a GTA game has few rivals.
Also, I don't approve of your casting aspersions on me that I shouldn't have kids. Shows such little maturity on your part I'm afraid. Knee-jerk reaction if I've ever seen one. A personal attack on me when you feel your company of favor is being passed off by an 8-year old. Exceptionally transparent.
GTA V introduces a character by having them explicitly fucking a drugged up girl then curb stomping a dude in the head.
It's more than just explicit language.
Blackstarhat
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Ninja Scooter
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What a cringeworthy statement.
I know some kids WANT to play GTA, it still doesn't mean they should. It has nothing to do with console choice or any of that bullshit, so don't drag that in here. Minecraft is available on EVERYTHING (Sans Nintendo of course lol) But I am pretty confident this kid also has access to a PC or ipad or something, that would fill his open world craving. It's also not a knee jerk reaction, anyone that let's an 8 year old play what is pretty much a well dressed murder sim, shouldn't be raising kids.
GTA is fine for what it is, it's well done, but it's not for kids, at all. I'm hardly conservative when it comes to games, My son started playing CoD with me when he was 10 (offline only bot matches) because he was well adjusted enough to know that it's a game and I wanted to introduce it to him before his little shit headed friends did, which was soon because it was all the talk in the school. He also knows what games came from, as he was willing to ask and I was willing to show him, he loves retro gaming because of it. Even if a parent isn't a gamer, at the very least they should know what their kids are doing.
If it felt personal, then I'm sorry it's more of a blanket statement....
I can't believe I actually have to argue why GTA is bad for kids, this forum makes my head hurt sometimes lol....
shadowsdarknes
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GTA is not actual gaming?
It's pure gaming at its core. It's literally one of the games where you don't even need to play any story missions or have any guidance to have fun.
You can make virtually zero progress in the game and have fun driving around, stealing vehicles, killing people, etc.
I think a lot of people have its just that in hindsight those types of games are just not meant for children especially in this day and age where they are more impressionable than ever. I played the hell out of Doom, quake and unreal among some other violent games as a kid and I would watch bloody movies also. But I personally wouldn't want my child to play games like that an early age and I'm sure others have the same mentality.
And as everyone has said W101 for sure
TheBaronOfNA
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I did say that I agree that is better idea show her the stuff that happens in the game.
Thats fair enough.
Khaos_Knight
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I see the hivemind is coming out in force today.....
Anyways Fifa is great but GTA 5 for an 8 year old is a huge no, no. Michael and Frank are ok considering the series they're in but Trevor.... Trevor is beyond fucked.
Infamous: SS would be much better suited for a kid his age. The game is flashy, and he'll get to explore with an arsenal of super powers at his disposal. The worst he can do in that game is become a villain and even then he'll be no worse than the average summer block buster villain. Maybe even get him Batman Arkham Knight when that comes out as well.
Anyways Fifa is great but GTA 5 for an 8 year old is a huge no, no. Michael and Frank are ok considering the series they're in but Trevor.... Trevor is beyond fucked.
Infamous: SS would be much better suited for a kid his age. The game is flashy, and he'll get to explore with an arsenal of super powers at his disposal. The worst he can do in that game is become a villain and even then he'll be no worse than the average summer block buster villain. Maybe even get him Batman Arkham Knight when that comes out as well.
WadiumArcadium
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Giving GTA to an eight year old. Interesting.
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