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Nintendo Going Mobile: Smartphone Game Deal with DeNA [First Games Fall 2015]
- Thread starter TheGreatDirector
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They're capable but would have to do practices that may be frowned upon here given the mobile software leaders are F2P games.
Masquerader
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Nintendo's trying to make more money? Wow. Never saw this coming from a company in 2015.
The_Darkest_Red
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I'm scared.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Patcher today:I called it!!
Gucci Messiah
Banned
But they are already sitting on a giant cash reserve from the DS/Wii!
Seriously though, it never hurts to diversify your business. Going mobile in a limited capacity has made sense for a long time and I think this is going to help Nintendo a lot, which is good for the industry.
Interceptor
Banned
To clear up some confusion i quote myself and add some further stuff
So what does it all mean?
You sure about that? No hybrid? Give me some quotes!
Earlier
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130131/05.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140130qa/02.html
Ok, ok. No hybrid. But what about playing 3D World on mobile?
We will get the virtual console right?
But but they said they won´t go mobile before. So anything can happen, right?
Yes, but not in the foreseeable future. If you believe in a 3rd party Nintendo or ports of existing games on your experia you either didn´t read any of the news today, you have a dragon avatar or you are just trolling.
So what does it all mean?
You sure about that? No hybrid? Give me some quotes!
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2015/150317/03.htmlIwata said:
Earlier
Iwata said:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130131/05.html
Iwata said:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140130qa/02.html
Ok, ok. No hybrid. But what about playing 3D World on mobile?
We will get the virtual console right?
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2015/150317/03.htmlIwata said:
But but they said they won´t go mobile before. So anything can happen, right?
Yes, but not in the foreseeable future. If you believe in a 3rd party Nintendo or ports of existing games on your experia you either didn´t read any of the news today, you have a dragon avatar or you are just trolling.
I think from now on there will be three main types of software from Nintendo.
QoL software: playable on their QoL device with some apps also coming to mobile and can be ported to WiiU/3DS
Mobile software: playable on smart devices and can be ported to WiiU/3DS
Premium software: playable only on WiiU/3DS
Square-Enix has made quite a lot of money by bucking the mobile software trend and releasing games for 15 dollars a pop.
Clash of Clans makes a lot of money, but it's a riskier market to invest in because the consumers are more fickle. Whereas releasing 15 dollar VC games or, god forbid, actually using the platform as a 1st party development platform, would be a much more solid form of revenue for them.
It's not news I relish, but I'm glad they're approaching it the right way. Judging by what they're saying, if you expect Smash Bros. to be ported to mobile, you'll be disappointed.
Nintendo said in the past that they would use mobile, and its IP, to try and promote its own hardware. Despite how this is being reported by some, this seems to be the extent of that plan. Pokemon Shuffle is an obvious release for mobile, and I think that Nintendo would hope to promote its mainline Pokemon games through ads built into it, rather than simply release those games on mobile. That Iwata said that this isn't a new policy shift, and that he never said they would completely avoid mobile, seems to verify this point.
The real question is how much of their resources Nintendo will contribute compared to DeNA. I would think that DeNA would be putting up the heft of the initiative, with Nintendo taking on a supervisory role. But that remains to be seen.
Nintendo said in the past that they would use mobile, and its IP, to try and promote its own hardware. Despite how this is being reported by some, this seems to be the extent of that plan. Pokemon Shuffle is an obvious release for mobile, and I think that Nintendo would hope to promote its mainline Pokemon games through ads built into it, rather than simply release those games on mobile. That Iwata said that this isn't a new policy shift, and that he never said they would completely avoid mobile, seems to verify this point.
The real question is how much of their resources Nintendo will contribute compared to DeNA. I would think that DeNA would be putting up the heft of the initiative, with Nintendo taking on a supervisory role. But that remains to be seen.
Ace Harding
Member
This isn't a big deal. We'll see Mario endless runners, a Zelda-themed puzzle game, etc.
Nintendo is still going to keep its full-featured games on its handhelds and consoles.
lol
Nintendo is still going to keep its full-featured games on its handhelds and consoles.
lol
Orniletter
Banned
He will whine about how it's too little too late, how they should have rather released the Wii HD in 2009 what a terrible and shortsighted CEO Iwata is and his usual nonsensical drivel.
lmao these posts
This doesn't seem so surprising. Iwata had alluded such things are possible. I had always figured if they did embrace alternate platforms it wouldn't be with direct ports but special software that feeds back into a greater Nintendo's ecosystem and as far as I can tell that's what they intend to do.
Masquerader
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People here seemed to believe that their previous success and cash on hand was good news for stockholders, when it isn't because their current (comparitive) lack of success counteracts that.
Can't wait for a million threads on the matter.
One thing that will be interesting going forward if this is a success, is the question of whether Sony and MS will follow suit. I guess they are both already kinda invested in mobile, but hasnt had much success there so far, but could Nintendo dipping its toe and earn money in this market, mean that they would follow suit? Would suck if all dedicated players eventually ended up there.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Lol you're overreacting, nobody is forcing you to buy these games.
Do google get a cut of Andoid? I though that was completely royalty-free.
SkeptiMism
Member
But what if this is a success, will there be a point in continuing spending resources on traditional games then?
i'd imagine they'd be light-years better.
like will they still support their own consoles?
They get a cut of all monetary transactions from the play store and in app purchases from games downloaded on the play store.
It was a hit with the ladies in my family. Not that I didn't enjoy it but they really clicked with it and the Yoshi game. My mom might put down candy crush to play some more of that Yoshi game (something else that could translate well.)
Still find the backlash to this notion from some on here as really odd. As usual the paranoid view that if anything changes it must be for the worse..
I think people should trust Nintendo. I think they might do this right and I expect high quality output. I also think they'll realise that fleecing people won't go down well so I expect apps with decent payment structures that are fair. Then again they want to charge £'s for ancient NES games so I may get be wrong on that one. I certainly don't think they'll have cynical micro transactions plastered all over their games like some do. I know I simply don't play mobile games anymore I got so sick of it all and I suspect many feel the same so Nintendo won't want to poison their relationship with their fan base like that.
Have faith Nintendo faithful!
I think people should trust Nintendo. I think they might do this right and I expect high quality output. I also think they'll realise that fleecing people won't go down well so I expect apps with decent payment structures that are fair. Then again they want to charge £'s for ancient NES games so I may get be wrong on that one. I certainly don't think they'll have cynical micro transactions plastered all over their games like some do. I know I simply don't play mobile games anymore I got so sick of it all and I suspect many feel the same so Nintendo won't want to poison their relationship with their fan base like that.
Have faith Nintendo faithful!
They will be released on a relevant platform and they won't let the janitor design the games?
FeenieVonKarma
Member
I don't know why people are freaking out about this. This won't make them abandon their mainline console stuff, if anything it might help it - the money they make off this will be a huge help to it.
I feel like Pokemon Shuffle was testing the waters. That game is nothing compared to their other stuff but it does what it's supposed to do, and it's a bit of fun. And they have obviously started to make money off that, too.
On that note, it also is not a surprise, they need that money and it's easy money for them.
I feel like Pokemon Shuffle was testing the waters. That game is nothing compared to their other stuff but it does what it's supposed to do, and it's a bit of fun. And they have obviously started to make money off that, too.
On that note, it also is not a surprise, they need that money and it's easy money for them.
They'd have to sell a gazillion apps to match their current revenue.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
You really think Nintendo is going to stop making Wii U/3DS games because they can sell a lot of $1 Mario runners or Pokemon puzzle games? Are we actually jumping to this conclusion now?
Come on man. This will have no impact on their dedicated hardware.
Well that's one way to wake up to news like this
Novel Mike
Member
Really not understanding the freak out I see on here and elsewhere, its not like Nintendo is pulling a Sega and saying they are going third party and is going to stop making consoles or handhelds... No what they are saying is that they are expanding there market, which IE is a very good thing for them to do.
Think about it this way, Mario Maker is coming out for Wii U later this year (still hoping 3DS too honestly) what if they make a mobile app to go along with it which would allow you to build levels on the phone then transfer them to the console or upload them online via the new network plan they are talking about? That would be freaking awesome and when they talked last year about supporting smart phones in the future something like the above is what I imagined. Because while getting a normal mario game to work on a touch screen could be difficult, a designing app for another game could work wonders, hell it would even give people who don't have a Wii U an opportunity to take a shot at making their own levels.
Also think about how many shitty games are in the mobile market right now, if there is any company that will end up dominating if they do things right (and whats the one thing Nintendo truly knows how to do? Make some great games) which could help put a lot of the shovel-ware we see in mobile to the side.
Think about it this way, Mario Maker is coming out for Wii U later this year (still hoping 3DS too honestly) what if they make a mobile app to go along with it which would allow you to build levels on the phone then transfer them to the console or upload them online via the new network plan they are talking about? That would be freaking awesome and when they talked last year about supporting smart phones in the future something like the above is what I imagined. Because while getting a normal mario game to work on a touch screen could be difficult, a designing app for another game could work wonders, hell it would even give people who don't have a Wii U an opportunity to take a shot at making their own levels.
Also think about how many shitty games are in the mobile market right now, if there is any company that will end up dominating if they do things right (and whats the one thing Nintendo truly knows how to do? Make some great games) which could help put a lot of the shovel-ware we see in mobile to the side.
dragonfart28
Banned
Nintendo will make these games for a wider audience that brings in profits while they continue to make games to a dedicated audience on their traditional platforms.
It's not a bad idea.
It's not a bad idea.
GameSeeker
Member
This is good news.
iOS/Android have been the best new gaming platform introduced in the last 10 years. They are on the way to dominating gaming and rightly so.
I thought Nintendo would be too stubborn to realize they can't compete on the H/W and OS side with iOS/Android, but it looks like reality finally sunk in at Nintendo HQ. I'm sure Sony (Vita) has realized the same thing.
I'm looking forward to Nintendo games on iOS/Android.
iOS/Android have been the best new gaming platform introduced in the last 10 years. They are on the way to dominating gaming and rightly so.
I thought Nintendo would be too stubborn to realize they can't compete on the H/W and OS side with iOS/Android, but it looks like reality finally sunk in at Nintendo HQ. I'm sure Sony (Vita) has realized the same thing.
I'm looking forward to Nintendo games on iOS/Android.
geordiemp
Member
Pachter from last year
Maybe he is not as daft as he looks...maybe he knew something....who knows..
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
It's a win win situation.
Boards of Canada
Member
Nintendo is working on their next-gen console and next-gen portable, and now making games on smartphones. What's not to like?
victreeb3l
Member
Hope they still have a solid focus on their dedicated console games. Mobile will probably net them more profit however.
Geez Pokemon in your phone...I cant even begin to imagine.
Geez Pokemon in your phone...I cant even begin to imagine.
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