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SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!

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Bunta

Fujiwara Tofu Shop
My friend asked me to post his version here as his account is not activated yet:

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This was made in photoshop, maybe Yu and his team can consider the changes. My friend posted the picture in the comment section of the kickstart project, too.

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Now he's really styling.
 
'You know I'm really beginning to have some reservations about this campaign...'

'IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL KICK-STARTERS EVER CHILLLLLL!'


^ Why do people keep doing this?
It's perfectly valid to discuss any concerns people are having.

The stream was horrific and has raised doubts in many.
I've seen people here and elsewhere withdrawing pledges or considering doing so solely as a result of the stream.

'But it made money so it was a good thing!'

They could've put the same rewards up with a daily text update and they all would've sold in the exact same fashion, sans withdraws.

I'm desperate for this game too and have been for a very long time, but that doesn't mean all of this shit gets a pass.
 
'You know I'm really beginning to have some reservations about this campaign...'

'IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL KICK-STARTERS EVER CHILLLLLL!'


^ Why do people keep doing this?
It's perfectly valid to discuss any concerns people are having.

The stream was horrific and has raised doubts in many.
I've seen people here and elsewhere withdrawing pledges or considering doing so solely as a result of the stream.

'But it made money so it was a good thing!'

They could've put the same rewards up with a daily text update and they all would've sold in the exact same fashion, sans withdraws.

I'm desperate for this game too and have been for a very long time, but that doesn't mean all of this shit gets a pass.
I understand the concerns about the stream and the team running this but the Kickstarter team and the dev team (and people involved) are two separate entities. Withdrawing pledges because of a haphazard and awkward stream (it wasn't that bad, we got some good info out of it) is just ridiculous. Especially if those withdrawing are fans of this series and want to see it successful.

They can do what they want but honestly, let's get real here.
 

GavinGT

Banned
I was imagining some fucking travesty of a stream after reading the comments. Turns out it just had shit video quality and a guy that was a little too enthusiastic about Shenmue.
 

Spaghetti

Member
switch on shenmue dojo translated suzuki's comments directly. i'll post them here and highlight the interesting parts.

Q: What is Sony’s involvement with Shenmue III?
YS: Sony is providing us with support in various ways including marketing, funding and promotion, and they’re our most important partner; they’re also our largest and most valued backer.

We plan to invest all the money collected from everyone through Kickstarter on development, excepting the Kickstarter fees and costs for the rewards. No portion of the collected money will flow to Shibuya Productions or Sony.

Q: PS4 physical reward?
YS: This is one of the most requested rewards, and it’s the reward I most want to make happen. Um... Please be patient!

Q: How will Kickstarter funds be spent?
YS: Please take a look at this pie chart which I’ve prepared.
[Fees: 8 - 10%, Game development: 65 to 72%, Backer rewards: 20 - 25%]

Q: Ryo’s appearance...
YS: We’ve had a lot of comments about how Ryo’s face looks, but we’ve just got started and so it is still under development. Personally, I’m not satisfied at all either, and so even now we’re continuing to improve it. Today I’ve brought a slightly improved version to show you – it’s not the final version, and we’ll be improving it even further, but I wanted to show you it.

For comparison, we’ve included two shots of Ryo from Shenmue II.

The one at the front is the slightly improved version for Shenmue III. Again, I’m not completely happy with this Ryo – the shape of his mouth is not quite right – and I’d like to make further refinements.

As well as the shape of his face, his facial expressions and his actions also add to his personality and his attractiveness. So going forward I’d like to work on facial expressions and movements in making an attractive Ryo.

Q: Will the original voice actors reprise their roles?
YS: I auditioned Masaya Matsukaze and Corey Marshall for Shenmue I & II, and I believe their voices are perfect for Ryo’s voice. So I’d definitely like to have them reprise the role again this time. We’re currently in negotiations and I’m sure they will both be happy to do so, so please look forward to that.

Q: Can PayPal payment be added?
YS: I’m considering funding methods other than Kickstarter, including PayPal.

Q: Will a DRM-free version be made available?
YS: It’s something that is under consideration at the moment. However it’s not something Ys Net can decide by ourselves, and so discussions are taking place with various parties.

Q: Will HD versions of Shenmue I & II be released?
YS: I think that if Shenmue I and II could be released before Shenmue III, people would be able to understand the backstory and enjoy Shenmue III even more. And so I also personally strongly want this to happen, but as the rights are held by Sega I’m not really in a position to be able to comment. However I will also express to Sega that that I really would like for them to be produced.

Q: Details of new rewards?
YS: There has been feedback that there are not enough rewards, and so we have added additional rewards. We have prepared $1000, $2000 and $5000 grab bags. The bags will continue various items of Shenmue merchandise, and I think these will be quite exciting. And also at the $5000 level will the one-only prototype of the watch worn by Ryo in the Shenmue games. I have it here to show you... This is the Timex watch worn by Ryo, and it has the YS and Shenmue logos on it. It’s a very rare item.

Q: Details of the grab bags?
YS: It includes various things such as special figures of Ryo, watches... these watches are not quite as valuable as the one-of-a-kind one mentioned before; they’re more casual and they also have the Shenmue logo. Anyway, there are a variety of different items included.

Also, we have prepared some of the original art drawn by our main character designer, Miyawaki. These are quite valuable, and are a great reward I think.

In addition to the rewards we have added today, we will be continuing to add further ones in the future, so please look forward to them too.

Q: Tell us about the stretch goals up to $3.6m?
YS: Firstly, I’ll talk about the stretch goals up until around the $3.6m mark, which are the most basic goals. The stretch goals up to $3.6m will achieve a story-oriented Shenmue. As further goals are reached, the content for various areas will be correspondingly expanded, but even with the story-oriented version, the plot will develop to reach a confrontation with the 4 leaders {of the Chiyoumen}.

Also, game features like the Rapport system and the Skill Tree system will be included.

Q: Rapport system
YS: With the Rapport system, various data on your interactions with Shenhua will be tracked, such as her level of trust and rapport with you and so on, according to your actions toward her and the way your conversations progress. Later, this will affect how cooperative Shenhua is toward you, for example. I think we’ll be able to express a new and exciting angle to Shenmue that wasn’t present in the previous games.

Q: Skill Tree system
YS: In Shenmue 3, you will be able to obtain move scrolls {“technique scrolls”} in various places – for example, in shops, mini-games, part-time jobs, gambling, quest events. You’ll be able to make immediate use of move scrolls in battle QTEs – for example, once you get a new scroll, you’ll be able to use it straight away as a QTE appearing during a fight. Being able to use it as soon as you have collected it will make it easy and satisfying to use. I think it will be fun to have it appear and be used when fighting. Advanced moves and Arcane scrolls will be managed in a tree structure; these will not become immediately available after obtaining them. Instead, a likeness can be drawn with learning of actual martial arts, where you build up to reach an advanced move through the accumulation of several moves; in a similar way, you will need to build up moves in the tree in order to reach the advanced moves, and I think filling the moves in the tree will be fun.

But you won’t have to build up to the advanced moves by actually participating in fighting (which can become tiresome); instead you just need to accumulate the necessary move scrolls to fill the tree.

Q: Stretch Goals up to $5m
YS: If the $5m mark is reached, we will focus on the area of Baisha There will be new types of play here which were not present in Shenmue I & II. Typical classical war strategies from the historical Three Kingdoms period of China, such as seiges and infiltration, will be incorporated.

Features such as “infiltration” may sound as if they will make the game too complicated, but they will be implemented in a way that is in keeping with the feel of the Shenmue games and will be easy to enjoy and engage with for anyone.

As another feature, I am planning a Character Perspective system. To put it simply, it is being able to change the character you play, but in Shenmue it will be done a little differently from other games that have this: in Baisha there will be an event where you will be able to change character in order to accomplish the mission. The player will be able to control not just the character of Ryo, but also other characters such as Shenhua and Ren; Ren has his own distinct personality, and Shenhua as a female has her own viewpoints and decisions; the choices will be different depending on the character you play. So it won’t simply be changing of character, but rather each character’s personality will be expressed and I think this will make for an enjoyable experience.

Q: Stretch Goals to $11m
YS: Currently further stretch goals have been announced through to $11m (such as the expanded battle system and so on), I’d like to leave it until next week to talk about these.

Q: Shenmue III at the Current Funding Level (around $3.6m at time of Twitch) vs $10 million
YS: At the current level of funding, as I mentioned earlier the game will be focused on the story. However once we reach $5 million we will be able to introduce aspects such as the Three Kingdoms “war strategies” mentioned earlier which will set it apart from the first two Shenmue games. This is actually the part I would most like to accomplish. If we can go above $10 million, the town of Choubu will be significantly enhanced. The town of Choubu has scenery that is somewhat like, for example, the Dobuita and Yokosuka areas of Shenmue I, and this will open up various options for amusement there. So, above $10 million, we will be able to include both game features that I would like to take on the challenge of including, as well as making the game “open-world like” with an even wider range of choices available.

Q: When is Shenmue III going to be reLEEEAASED?
YS: By the end of 2017.

Q: Will Shenmue III end the story?
YS: In terms of the 11 chapters that form the basis of the Shenmue story, we have only traversed a little way through these in Shenmue I and II. I did consider completing all the remaining chapters within the third game, but it would mean skipping a lot of the good parts and would not result in a satisfactory game. There were a lot of people who want to know the ending of the story, but in order to make the game as high quality as possible, the end of the story will not be reached in Shenmue III.

Q: Release Date of Demo Version
YS: Providing this at an early stage will be difficult because we need to develop various systems and the game to a certain extent first. It is likely not to be until the latter half of the development period.

I think it won’t be until 2017.

Q: Final Comment
YS: I always love doing new things and taking on new challenges, and so I would like to aim for the goal of $10 million in order to produce a Shenmue that is both the one I want to create, and one which everyone wants. I really hope to somehow bring it to reality, and so I would like to ask for everyone’s continued efforts and cooperation. Thank you.
 
I understand the concerns about the stream and the team running this but the Kickstarter team and the dev team (and people involved) are two separate entities. Withdrawing pledges because of a haphazard and awkward stream (it wasn't that bad, we got some good info out of it) is just ridiculous. Especially if those withdrawing are fans of this series and want to see it successful.

They can do what they want but honestly, let's get real here.

There is a correlation between Awesome Japan and the finished game though.
It's AJ's job to raise a budget for the game via Kickstarter. Them doing a bad job means less money raised which results in a lesser game.

So I'm not sure how 'Awesome Japan aren't developing it don't worry' is supposed to be reassuring.
 

Spaghetti

Member
There is a correlation between Awesome Japan and the finished game though.
It's AJ's job to raise a budget for the game via Kickstarter. Them doing a bad job means less money raised which results in a lesser game.

So I'm not sure how 'Awesome Japan aren't developing it don't worry' is supposed to be reassuring.
it's reassuring because they're not developing the game

you know what else negatively affects the budget? the extreme fatalism this thread has had since day two of the campaign. it's just an endless cycle of it too. it's doing more harm than good.
 

Boke1879

Member
it's reassuring because they're not developing the game

you know what else negatively affects the budget? the extreme fatalism this thread has had since day two of the campaign. it's just an endless cycle of it too. it's doing more harm than good.

Not to mention the KS got a significant boost after during and after the stream. So I don't see how it harmed it at all.
 
it's reassuring because they're not developing the game

you know what else negatively affects the budget? the extreme fatalism this thread has had since day two of the campaign. it's just an endless cycle of it too. it's doing more harm than good.

So the fact that if they did a better job this campaign could've been even more successful is somehow irrelevant now...?

As for your second point, the majority of the concerns are coming from those who have already pledged, so you're wrong.
Why would they be so invested otherwise?
 
'You know I'm really beginning to have some reservations about this campaign...'

'IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL KICK-STARTERS EVER CHILLLLLL!'


^ Why do people keep doing this?
It's perfectly valid to discuss any concerns people are having.

The stream was horrific and has raised doubts in many.
I've seen people here and elsewhere withdrawing pledges or considering doing so solely as a result of the stream.

'But it made money so it was a good thing!'

They could've put the same rewards up with a daily text update and they all would've sold in the exact same fashion, sans withdraws.

I'm desperate for this game too and have been for a very long time, but that doesn't mean all of this shit gets a pass.

Well there is always exaggeration. First of all not everyone with reservations is as calm and collected as you portray them in your dialogue, and not everyone telling the those with reservations to calm down is as over the top as you portray them either. Lots of people react so over the top to everything. That kind of reaction doesn't help anyone.

Now discussing the Kickstarter is good, whether it's positive or negative. The problem is how desperate, petty, and nonconstructive people can be.

First of all something like 3000 people watched that stream, that isn't many. But since the stream there has been a boost in funding. There is no way to quantify if a better stream would have meant more money. It's idle speculation and contributes nothing. With 20 days left the energy is spent spreading the word of what Shenmue 3 is all about and why it should be funded further. Coming up with actual ideas to better promote this KS and attain more funding are great, but snippy posts about how awful something is do not help. The fact is more information about this KS needs to spread. Anyone that happens is helpful. Spread the information. And even though the stream was poor, it put new information on the KS out there that has spread and led to more funding for the KS.

And if anyone is withdrawing peldges because of the stream, we don't need them. They have the opportunity to finally get more Shenmue, fully under Yu Suzuki's control, and they let some idiots on stream change their minds. Good, leave, Suzuki doesn't need them. How petty of them.
 

GavinGT

Banned
switch on shenmue dojo translated suzuki's comments directly. i'll post them here and highlight the interesting parts.

Thanks. It was clear that the translator in the stream missed some stuff.

The fact that he speaks of fighting only in terms of QTE...I guess that means there's literally no free battle system unless we hit that stretch goal?
 

Spaghetti

Member
Not to mention the KS got a significant boost after during and after the stream. So I don't see how it harmed it at all.
i mean, it was the new tiers that helped more than anything

honestly, one stream with a few audio/visual problems and an oddball moderator and you'd think the whole project is on fire. the information revealed is pretty interesting (see my last post for a run down of that), and we seem on our way to 4 million and a ps4 physical version for the KS.

there's no need for the drama!
 

Spaghetti

Member
Thanks. It was clear that the translator in the stream missed some stuff.

The fact that he speaks of fighting only in terms of QTE...I guess that means there's literally no free battle system unless we hit that stretch goal?
i wouldn't take it as that at all. the stretch goals are enhancements to FREE battle, not "dude pay us to get that feature".

So the fact that if they did a better job this campaign could've been even more successful is somehow irrelevant now...?

As for your second point, the majority of the concerns are coming from those who have already pledged, so you're wrong.
Why would they be so invested otherwise?
dealing in "what ifs" aren't helping. begging for the bloodstained team won't do a whole lot now. we're probably stuck with awesome japan now. it's for another 20 days. that's it. if they're not going to pick up the pace and kick things into overdrive it's up to the fans.
 

Sapiens

Member
From the moment Suzuki was mentioning Kickstarter years ago, I knew this would be a clusterfuck.

Seeing Ryo's new model just cemented how much of an amateur hour this is.
 

Theonik

Member
The thing I find most hilarious about Awesome Japan is that the most they ever raised on KS before Shenmue was $60k or so. Now they are able to add like $6m on their resume by the end of this campaign for Shenmue.
 

Bioshocker

Member
Man I'm surprised this kickstarter has stalled so much. Bummer for the people who were wanting this. Seems like they're either not showing up, or this is more niche than people thought.

Really weird. Not chilling in myself as I'm not a fan. But I expected much more. At least sega / shenmue fans can finally chill, but I wish this had gone better

Shenmue is niche. That's partly why Shenmue III has not been made in all these years. 3,7 million is great sum for Shenmue. If it reaches over 5 million I think we can call this Kickstarter a great success. This is not a mainstream title in any way (if it was it wouldn't need Kickstarter).

Personally, as a fan, I'd settle with less impressive graphics if they can save some money there. I played Shenmue II after that magic night at E3 and it's still a good looking game in many ways.

I do believe, though, that we must prepare ourselves for Shenmue Lite. It'll likely be much smaller than Shenmue II, but if Suzuki can fill the environments with great gameplay that is the most important.
 

gugeifer

Member
Ok, been reading this thread for all 200 pages now and at this point it kinda lost sense of the big event itself.

Many people are kinda lost on little things - whose money will fund what, quality of kickstarter is bad, they should fire these guys and get Iga kickstarter guys...

This is Shenmue III. We can wonder no longer what kind of game it could have been, the game is in the making and it is getting better as money flow in. First reaction was overwhelming and cash flow is not as great, but it is still a celebration of love for one of the most interesting projects in video games ever.

Sure, some things could have been better, but it's what we have - and it is more awesome than what we had before - which are dreams and nothing of substance, nothing to play.

I'm giving this game at least a 100 and will try to get more, this is Shenmue III dammit.
 

Bioshocker

Member
Sure, some things could have been better, but it's what we have - and it is more awesome than what we had before - which are dreams and nothing of substance, nothing to play.

I'm giving this game at least a 100 and will try to get more, this is Shenmue III dammit.

Thank you!
 
Now discussing the Kickstarter is good, whether it's positive or negative. The problem is how desperate, petty, and nonconstructive people can be.

First of all something like 3000 people watched that stream, that isn't many. But since the stream there has been a boost in funding. There is no way to quantify if a better stream would have meant more money. It's idle speculation and contributes nothing. With 20 days left the energy is spent spreading the word of what Shenmue 3 is all about and why it should be funded further. Coming up with actual ideas to better promote this KS and attain more funding are great, but snippy posts about how awful something is do not help. The fact is more information about this KS needs to spread. Anyone that happens is helpful. Spread the information.

Good points :)
Let's hope this 30onthe3rd really takes off!
Hopefully that and the introduction of PS4 physical copies will take us over $5.
 

Spaghetti

Member
From the moment Suzuki was mentioning Kickstarter years ago, I knew this would be a clusterfuck.

Seeing Ryo's new model just cemented how much of an amateur hour this is.
they haven't even started production, what's the problem?

Just to clarify, I myself am still extremely positive!

I just think it's more productive to voice our concerns and potentially get them heard, rather than burying our heads in the sand and convincing ourselves that everything is fine.
the thing is though is that those concerns turn into a echo chamber and puts people off the project.

there's still a lot to be excited about. the translation i reposted from shenmue dojo (ironically my post is numbered 9999, 9/9/99!) gives a better picture of the gameplay features than we've had previously. we also know more about the scope of the story and how it will play out.

an hour long stream is not going to sink this thing. i sat there laughing my head off through the whole thing but i'm not even remotely concerned. yu suzuki was the only one there that mattered, and he seemed confident in knowing what he wanted for the game.
 

Theonik

Member
Why on earth are people complaining about the guy with the red shirt?! He is NOT the issue. In fact, he didn't do anything wrong and I think it is silly for people to make him the center of attention for complaints... really silly. Focus on the main issue, people. Listen and take notes of what Yu Suzuki said because he said many good things.
Notice the timing of the posts! I was trying to listen to what Yu was saying and he said some very nice things we should be highlighting but this fucking guy right there.
 
Notice the timing of the posts! I was trying to listen to what Yu was saying and he said some very nice things we should be highlighting but this fucking guy right there.

Truth.

Dude was distracting. Watching the stream live there were times I had to just go to another window because it was so awkward to watch. I felt like I was watching a bad sitcom or something. I have faith in the game, but holy shit does AJ need to get their shit together. IN other news, someone who can accurately translate what YS is saying would be nice too.
 

Spaghetti

Member
Truth.

Dude was distracting. Watching the stream live there were times I had to just go to another window because it was so awkward to watch. I felt like I was watching a bad sitcom or something. I have faith in the game, but holy shit does AJ need to get their shit together. IN other news, someone who can accurately translate what YS is saying would be nice too.
translation is here
 
Also the longer the delay it the more it costs. Renting buildings and keeping staff isn't free! We are already getting Shenmue 3 which is just awesome. Lets just all help advertise the Kickstarter and hope it can reach its full potential rather than focusing on numbers and strategies.

A lot can change over the development period as well so maybe they can source some other funding later down the line if stretch goals aren't met or add some features as DLC if it sells well enough!

This never even occurred to me. I guess holding off on the development for more funds isn't really a good idea. Hopefully they still give us the option to give money while they develop the game.
 

Trojan X

Banned
Notice the timing of the posts! I was trying to listen to what Yu was saying and he said some very nice things we should be highlighting but this fucking guy right there.

I noticed this but I don't think he is a problem. Yes, he exaggerated and he was too relaxed, and they could have used someone more professional... however, he is not an issue. Remember, he was the one that presented the questions and showed the items, that is all.

If anything that is a problem it should be the translation... The translations were too simple and Shenmue Dojo's translations of what Yu Suzuki said proves it. It was a good stream, it could have been much better but professionalism was not the agenda here, it was answers.
 
Guys, I can't take the "Spam Conan to play Shenmue on Clueless Gamer" the crazy people in the Kickstarter comments have going. Like... What? Do they really think SEGA are gonna pay for that? For a 15 year old game...

It's really the most confusing and baffling "fan-campaign" I've seen come from this Kickstarter. I have no idea how old these people are but you'd think Shenmue fans would be old enough to know that is stupid.
 
This never even occurred to me. I guess holding off on the development for more funds isn't really a good idea. Hopefully they still give us the option to give money while they develop the game.




That would be stupid if they didnt allow to get funds AFTER. I mean, its usually the kind of thing that gives bigger boosts. Just imagine next year, if Sony is indeed doing marketing, they would be at E3 and they could be showing a new trailer. This way, they could get funding from the people interested. After all, Star Citizen ended up at 2 millions on Kickstarter... look at where it is now.
 
That would be stupid if they didnt allow to get funds AFTER. I mean, its usually the kind of thing that gives bigger boosts. Just imagine next year, if Sony is indeed doing marketing, they would be at E3 and they could be showing a new trailer. This way, they could get funding from the people interested. After all, Star Citizen ended up at 2 millions on Kickstarter... look at where it is now.

Yeah, I think I'd cry if they didn't let us continue to give them money after the kick-starter ends. 10 million will be very possible after a year or so. If they do open up PayPal and they had half a brain they'd also give us a final date early on letting us know when they won't be accepting any more money.
 

duder

Neo Member
I pledged $500 and am a huge supporter, the negativity is mind blowing, but I do agree the team handling the kickstarter is passable at best. The dude in the video is what makes games embarrassing and as a guy almost 40 this type of stuff has become intolerable to me, which means I just shut it off midway through. I cant fathom any new fan wanting to back this after that, but looks like it did get a bump. The translations Shenmue dojo did are great, it is sad this keeps having dark clouds around it like this.

I support the game staunchly and I have voted with my money (I will kick in up to 1k) but Yu Suzuki is such a legend and helped shape my childhood, the man deserves better than this shit show and so do the Shenmue fans. I am a bit shocked the third game is not going to complete the story, but I am fine with it too. Time for fans to put up or shut up.
 

Trojan X

Banned
I pledged $500 and am a huge supporter, the negativity is mind blowing, but I do agree the team handling the kickstarter is passable at best. The dude in the video is what makes games embarrassing and as a guy almost 40 this type of stuff has become intolerable to me, which means I just shut it off midway through. I cant fathom any new fan wanting to back this after that, but looks like it did get a bump. The translations Shenmue dojo did are great, it is sad this keeps having dark clouds around it like this.

I support the game staunchly and I have voted with my money (I will kick in up to 1k) but Yu Suzuki is such a legend and helped shape my childhood, the man deserves better than this shit show and so do the Shenmue fans. I am a bit shocked the third game is not going to complete the story, but I am fine with it too. Time for fans to put up or shut up.

Can't argue with that. Not at all.
 

Theonik

Member
I noticed this but I don't think he is a problem. Yes, he exaggerated and he was too relaxed, and they could have used someone more professional... however, he is not an issue. Remember, he was the one that presented the questions and showed the items, that is all.

If anything that is a problem it should be the translation... The translations were too simple and Shenmue Dojo's translations of what Yu Suzuki said proves it. It was a good stream, it could have been much better but professionalism was not the agenda here, it was answers.
It is an issue for the people that watched the stream. He sells the idea that this is completely unprofessional. But I'm not bothered. I was joining on the cringefest.

Now the second question is more interesting. It confirms my suspicion that YS's $10m comment was mistranslated, and well, most of the media in the campaign has had errors, bad translation and other problems that have greatly contributed to the miscommunication that this campaign has been suffering from.

But I digress. What's done is done, we don't get a voice in this matter and the campaign is still doing great!

Edit: See above, much of the fanbase for this game is much older now and the communication is just offputting.
 

Haunted

Member
lol at these new stretch goals. wowitsfuckingnothing.gif They are even more nebulous than Bloodstained's. This kickstarter is being handled in the absolute worst way, there's no way they reach most of these new goals.



WTF is wrong with these people, holy shit.
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you know exactly what's happening here jett
 

C.Redfield

Neo Member
The set up of the twich session should be improved.
Like some shenmue artworks on the wall behind , etc. As it is, It feels like a really cheap presentation.

I remember when Yu made some presentation of shenmue 1 or 2 , it was impressive.

Or why not a video in a traditional place in japan. I think fans will appreciate this.
 
It would be absolutely criminal if we can't continue to donate after the Kickstarter ends, especially after they introduced the new stretch goals. I want the game to be as detailed as possible. Plus I loved the Shenmue II style interiors and I'm assuming that's what the "Magic Maze" system is.

Don't get me wrong, I trust Yu and I know we'll get a great game, but if they don't allow the funding to continue after the campaign ends, it'll be hard for me to not imagine what could have been.
 

duder

Neo Member
I really think we need to take into account the age of most of the fans, there is no way they are targeting a new audience unless there is a release of the first two games. I also believe Shenmue was a "You had to be there" type of experience. I have shown the game to younger audiences and it just does not typically resonate. I know I am generalizing.

With all of that in mind--the fans are older, more established and are more affluent now than before, go balls deep with the big rewards, get people that treat the game with the reverence the fans do without being complete idiots (keep in mind I absolutely loved the reaction of the guy who cried etc) and physical copies are an absolute must. The older gamers are the ones whom still collect physical copies. The younger generation that grew up on itunes are more hip to downloading. A hyper special ultra PS4 version will sell like hotcakes if you include trinkets, but I would assume that almost everybody would bump to a $60 commit from the lowest level for a physical copy. I will buy both. yes, i do know this is in the works, but it needs to be harped on.

A shenmue launch party in LA with a $100 to $5,000 invite tier system would generate another 250k easily and also engage the fans, make them feel like they are all at a big party together, which would set the stage for Shenmue 4 and this being "our" game. This also assumes that the game is mostly being driven by western demand as it sold much better here. They are missing a lot of easy and good marketing opportunities due to these fucking amateurs which is upsetting for those of us who want the best Shenmue 3 and also part 4. Shameful.
 

Cubed

Member
Looking at the stretch goals, I think $7 million is where I'd be satisfied.

Nothing past what we get at $7 million is that interesting to me... I can lose a few mini-games and side-jobs as long as we have all the villages fleshed out and a robust fighting system (by $7 million we have ragdoll reactions and enhanced fighting AI).

I have yet to donate, but I'm looking at dropping $100 in a few days. I'm 3 months from my wedding, so this landed at the most inconvenient time, money-wise, for me.
 
Just to clarify, I myself am still extremely positive!

I just think it's more productive to voice our concerns and potentially get them heard, rather than burying our heads in the sand and convincing ourselves that everything is fine.

Yes. We need to tell Yu Suzuki, Cedric Biscay, anyone important to Shenmue 3, that AJ really needs to get their Shit together. I hope they learn from their mistakes and at least invest in a $100 USB condenser Mic for future streams.
 

Moongazer

Member
It would be absolutely criminal if we can't continue to donate after the Kickstarter ends, especially after they introduced the new stretch goals. I want the game to be as detailed as possible. Plus I loved the Shenmue II style interiors and I'm assuming that's what the "Magic Maze" system is.

Don't get me wrong, I trust Yu and I know we'll get a great game, but if they don't allow the funding to continue after the campaign ends, it'll be hard for me to not imagine what could have been.

I don't see any reason why they wouldn't open funding after the campaign since I think at this point it won't quite reach the $10 mil goal. It would be dumb not to after seeing how the likes of Star Citizen managed to raise absurd amounts of money long after it's kickstarter ended.
 

benzy

Member
My friend asked me to post his version here as his account is not activated yet:

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This was made in photoshop, maybe Yu and his team can consider the changes. My friend posted the picture in the comment section of the kickstart project, too.

Nice, that looks more like Ryo. Tweet it to Yu!
 
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