Kralamoonard
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NOTICE - I'd like to preface this thread by saying I honestly don't mean to be disrespectful by posting another thread about this news, or be disrespectful to the mod who locked the other thread about the same news, but I tried my best to understand why it was locked by PM-ing Modbot and another mod and perhaps continue the discussion where it was claimed "there is another thread for this". So I searched GAF for the third time to double check I hadn't glossed over a thread, but again, I found nothing about it, apart from my locked thread; there wasn't another thread dedicated to the news, nor was there a reply in my PM by the mod as to why the thread may have been locked, so I was genuinely left confused by the decision to lock it.
The reason why I had made the thread in the very first place was because the news cropped up in an NPD thread, and of course, not everyone checks the NPD threads, nor was the discussion about this news concentrated in that thread, as the discussion tends to revolve around the NPD results and sales, because you know, it's an NPD thread. As a result, I decided to make a dedicated thread to this news because it's not uncommon to see a specific thread to be made about a piece of news that was posted in another unrelated thread.
This was evidenced by the fact that this insight/insider information was news to many (i.e. those who hadn't seen it in the NPD thread), but unfortunately, not many more people knew about it as the thread was locked quickly. Of course I respect the mod's decision to lock it, but unfortunately I don't understand it, because it doesn't make any sense, and when I tried to ask why and gain some insight, I had no reply. It would have benefited me greatly as I perhaps missed something obvious that the Mod could clearly see, but unfortunately that was not the case. I still do not know what was meant when Modbot said we already have a thread going for it because there wasn't any thread about the news, and besides, it was buried (and the discussion ended quick) in the other NPD thread and so, I thought it was best to let others know about it too as it was newsworthy and not related to NPD.
Of course any insight as to why it was locked/whether I'm pushing my luck too far into making another thread would be appreciated. I genuinely don't mean to be purposefully disrespectful, but I legitimately want to understand what my mistake was so I know not to repeat it in the future.
I hope you guys understand and I hope I'm not breaking any further ToS by doing this.
Original News
Hey all,
So I know this insider info may be old to some (as it was revealed 8 days ago on the November NPD thread, and hinted at by Kagari from a post she made back in July regarding Square delaying the PS4 version and increasing the timed exclusivity duration), but I figured since not everyone visits NPD threads, this information may have gone under the radar, and so it maybe news to many people. It also gives some perspective as to why SE stupidly changed the PS4 exclusivity window from approximately 4-6 months to 1 year. So this is actually about the PS4 version being delayed even further than what was originally decided.
Basically, in a nutshell, the news is, a GAF member has a contact inside SE** saying that the PS4 version was delayed to Q4 in exchange for Square being able to announce the PS4/PC versions earlier whilst also avoiding Uncharted 4's release. Please read the posts further below for the full story details.
**By the way, for legitimacy sake, this GAF member was PM-med by Bish (who 'checks' insiders to ensure that they're in a position to be privy to the information that they're sharing). This was successful as the poster, AnthonypUK, was then later verified by Bish as to having access to the insider information and being able to share it - so the info is reliable to an extent, but that's not all. The news about the deal changing is also supported and further reinforced by the fact that Kagari, who also has direct contact(s) inside Square, hinted at this news back in July. And the biggest evidence to support this, is that Square Enix are the ones who did this deal - so it's not surprising that they'd be this stupid to do such a decision.
Here's the story:
...in reference to this post on the the Rise of the Tomb Raider PS4/PC announcement thread back in July:
Personal Thoughts
So in summary, the way this fantastic IP has been mismanaged by Square/Crystal is pretty awful IMO. Someone made an interesting point as to how insane some of the decisions are that definitely make you scratch your head.
The reason why I had made the thread in the very first place was because the news cropped up in an NPD thread, and of course, not everyone checks the NPD threads, nor was the discussion about this news concentrated in that thread, as the discussion tends to revolve around the NPD results and sales, because you know, it's an NPD thread. As a result, I decided to make a dedicated thread to this news because it's not uncommon to see a specific thread to be made about a piece of news that was posted in another unrelated thread.
This was evidenced by the fact that this insight/insider information was news to many (i.e. those who hadn't seen it in the NPD thread), but unfortunately, not many more people knew about it as the thread was locked quickly. Of course I respect the mod's decision to lock it, but unfortunately I don't understand it, because it doesn't make any sense, and when I tried to ask why and gain some insight, I had no reply. It would have benefited me greatly as I perhaps missed something obvious that the Mod could clearly see, but unfortunately that was not the case. I still do not know what was meant when Modbot said we already have a thread going for it because there wasn't any thread about the news, and besides, it was buried (and the discussion ended quick) in the other NPD thread and so, I thought it was best to let others know about it too as it was newsworthy and not related to NPD.
Of course any insight as to why it was locked/whether I'm pushing my luck too far into making another thread would be appreciated. I genuinely don't mean to be purposefully disrespectful, but I legitimately want to understand what my mistake was so I know not to repeat it in the future.
I hope you guys understand and I hope I'm not breaking any further ToS by doing this.
Original News
Hey all,
So I know this insider info may be old to some (as it was revealed 8 days ago on the November NPD thread, and hinted at by Kagari from a post she made back in July regarding Square delaying the PS4 version and increasing the timed exclusivity duration), but I figured since not everyone visits NPD threads, this information may have gone under the radar, and so it maybe news to many people. It also gives some perspective as to why SE stupidly changed the PS4 exclusivity window from approximately 4-6 months to 1 year. So this is actually about the PS4 version being delayed even further than what was originally decided.
Basically, in a nutshell, the news is, a GAF member has a contact inside SE** saying that the PS4 version was delayed to Q4 in exchange for Square being able to announce the PS4/PC versions earlier whilst also avoiding Uncharted 4's release. Please read the posts further below for the full story details.
**By the way, for legitimacy sake, this GAF member was PM-med by Bish (who 'checks' insiders to ensure that they're in a position to be privy to the information that they're sharing). This was successful as the poster, AnthonypUK, was then later verified by Bish as to having access to the insider information and being able to share it - so the info is reliable to an extent, but that's not all. The news about the deal changing is also supported and further reinforced by the fact that Kagari, who also has direct contact(s) inside Square, hinted at this news back in July. And the biggest evidence to support this, is that Square Enix are the ones who did this deal - so it's not surprising that they'd be this stupid to do such a decision.
Here's the story:
...in reference to this post on the the Rise of the Tomb Raider PS4/PC announcement thread back in July:
Kagari said:
Personal Thoughts
So in summary, the way this fantastic IP has been mismanaged by Square/Crystal is pretty awful IMO. Someone made an interesting point as to how insane some of the decisions are that definitely make you scratch your head.
- An entry in an AAA franchise that was closely associated with the now leading platform WW, which also happened to be the platform the last game sold most on is made up to be an exclusive for up to a year on said platform. Granted, the PS3 generation TR's were heavily marketed w/Xbox, but there was still a sizeable chunk of the fanbase on the PS console - Ok, that's cool whatever, the timed exclusivity is done and dusted. Now how will Square Enix/Microsoft try to optimise the sales with the install base they've got? Yes it's not as much as the PS4, but it's still a decent and healthy install base.
- After MS becoming the publisher, they saw fit to bundle the title in a 1Tb $399 bundle (instead of $349), which would THEN be exclusive to 1 retailer in the US AND not even be sold in the biggest European market where the franchise even ORIGINATED from (UK) - That's an even bigger head scratch; why would you limit your retail partners that are selling this bundle? And why wouldn't you do the same for countries outside NA?
- So let's release it on the same day as the long anticipated Fallout 4 - Ok, the release date was about being stuck between a rock and a hard place regarding other big releases, but I guess that put the final nail in the coffin for many.
