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Games you think will either underperform or fail (commercially/critically) in 2016?

ToastiestPlum said:
NMS is coming out on PC as well. Although with space sims like Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen doing so well I'm not sure how well a relatively "casual" space game like NMS will fare.
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Whereas I am also wary about No Man's Sky's eventual quality, I think it is the anti-EVE. People who want immersive, simulator-like space adventure, will stick to Elite and Star Citizen. Those who want a middle spot, get Rebel Galaxy of Void Expanse.

For the laid-back, casual space explorer, NMS will be ace.

Also, expect Horizons to sell gangbusters. Even if that game is mediocre, it will sell like hotcakes and Sony will advertise the shit out of it.
 
QuixoticNeutral said:
Star Fox Zero has an uphill battle ahead of it no matter how good it is. If even a game as stupendous (and from both a beloved developer and a well-known, storied IP) as Tropical Freeze struggled against the apathy that greeted it among the press and players who live and die by pre-release hype, I can't see a Miyamoto+Platinum Star Fox overcoming the same conditions any better, especially in a market where rail shooters are already niche.

#FE doesn't stand a chance, and at this point I just hope it gets a retail release at all instead of being Fatal Framed into the recesses of the eShop.
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I've come to accept this is a very real possibility, unfortunately. Of course, I'll still pick it up digitally, but I'd really like a physical release in North America.
 
Final Fantasy XV.

I think it will sell well (5 million+) just on brand name. But it will be a critical failure. The dialogue and localisation will be poor and cringeworthy, the writing will be amateurish (mainly coz the target is teenage Japanese audience), the combat will likely be crap (hold button to attack mess, in an ARPG), quests will be busy work type fetch quests (Episode Duscae stuff was very poor), etc.
 
Exentryk said:
Final Fantasy XV.

I think it will sell well (5 million+) just on brand name. But it will be a critical failure. The dialogue and localisation will be poor and cringeworthy, the writing will be amateurish (mainly coz the target is teenage Japanese audience), the combat will likely be crap (hold button to attack mess, in an ARPG), quests will be busy work type fetch quests (Episode Duscae stuff was very poor), etc.
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Agree on the points about the quests and localization. It will sound fine, but the content will be eye-rollingly bad.

I also fear that the main narrative of that game will be a total mess.
 
I hope The Division will be good, but I suspect it won't. It could be the opposite of Destiny; lots of (filler) content but without the great gameplay. So far it sounds like it could be the Watchdogs: Multiplayer edition. I'm not sure they've thought about endgame content at all, except for "maybe players will like the high-level mobs in the PvP zone?" And on the other hand, I don't understand how PvP will work for players that don't want to grind through the PvE content.

Battleborn looks like an obvious failure. They need heavy promotion and a new 'beta' demo that doesn't involve stariung at the 'searching for game' screen for 15 minutes then quitting in disgust. The other FPS/MOBA hybrid games will have a highlander face-off to be the one.

Mirror's Edge is a top candidate for critical success and commercial failure, like the first one. I REALLY hope I'm wrong about that.

Mass Effect Andromeda should be okay, but it'll need to be more than DA:Inquisition in spaaaace. I'm optimistic about this, since I reckon Bioware know the stakes and the potential for a fan backlash if the game is poor.
 
Star Fox (Initial impressions haven't been great)
No Man's Sky (I think the gameplay will be lacking)
The Last Guardian (There's no way the game can live up to the years of hype)
Metroid: Fed Force (Even if it turns out to be a good game, people will dismiss it because it's not a True Metroid)
Project Giant Robot / Project Guard (These look like novelties at most)

I have a feeling all these titles will underwhelm in some way.
 
The Division
I just think it's way too late for that game, I see nobody hyped for it. It was announced way too early
 
Camp Freddie said:
I hope The Division will be good, but I suspect it won't. It could be the opposite of Destiny; lots of (filler) content but without the great gameplay. So far it sounds like it could be the Watchdogs: Multiplayer edition. I'm not sure they've thought about endgame content at all, except for "maybe players will like the high-level mobs in the PvP zone?" And on the other hand, I don't understand how PvP will work for players that don't want to grind through the PvE content.
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Fantastapotamus said:
The Division
I just think it's way too late for that game, I see nobody hyped for it. It was announced way too early
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The Division... Right now it is a loot-based military shooter that does both shooting and the loot very poorly. Imagine a child speccing out the hybrid of Destiny and Ghost Recon. That's how you get The Division.

Right now I'd say that even Watch Dogs has better shooting than Division.
 
The Division. I think it will get a pretty mixed reception. It will probably sell decently though because it was one of those first "this is next gen" games alongside watchdogs.

And I'm afraid For Honor might dissapoint in sales. Looks great to me but if it's online only (I'm not sure) it might run into the same issues as other games
Edit: Just read that it will have a Story mode. So that's good and sort of negates half my argument


Exentryk said:
Final Fantasy XV.

I think it will sell well (5 million+) just on brand name. But it will be a critical failure. The dialogue and localisation will be poor and cringeworthy, the writing will be amateurish (mainly coz the target is teenage Japanese audience), the combat will likely be crap (hold button to attack mess, in an ARPG), quests will be busy work type fetch quests (Episode Duscae stuff was very poor), etc.
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I expect it to score in the mid 70's. Will get praised for the nice graphics and will get negative points for the... well, Square tier writing and bad sidecontent. The combat just looking at threads on Gaf seems like it will be pretty hit or miss depending on the person
 
If this was a contest, Battleborn would be the winner. I think the best thing I've heard about Battleborne was "It's kind alright I guess" and nobody seems to actually want the game. Is it going to be F2P? I don't even know.

Fbh said:
The Division. I think it will get a pretty mixed reception. It will probably sell decently though because it was one of those first "this is next gen" games alongside watchdogs.
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I don't think that matters now. WatchDogs came out pretty early and was one of the first "Big" games but now? We have a bunch of "big games" already, I doubt people will buy The Division because of that.
 
Gran Turismo Sport.

Critically: It will get the most varied and the worst reviews of all the GT games - it is after all aimed at the vocal hardcore online racing league. It will lack the bloat of previous GT games which, for many people, was what "made" these games. The online focus will probably be very wonky at first or people will just not "get it". I think PD will take about 6 months to a year to get everything streamlined once it is out.

Commercially: No way it will flop. It just wont reach GT3 numbers. Will it hold the long-term interest as PD seems to hope? I personally don't think there is a big enough audience that enjoys heated battles for 5th place in online races. If you ain't first, you're last! Also the required equipment (SUPPORTED racing wheel setup) is not something most PS4 owners have. Trying to compete online with a controller is bringing a knife to a gun fight.
 
OrbitalBeard said:
No, it's a $60 retail release.
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That sounds insane to me. It's probably the only way they can make money of it though.

Quantum Break will probably underperform and I can't tell if that makes a PC version more or less likely.
Mirror's Edge probably won't sell amazingly but I doubt anybody expects that game to sell dozens of millions?
Hitman might underperform, hard to say. The "Buy now, we'll make the content later" thing might bite them in the ass
 
FFXV will be a commercial failure. That game has been in development for so long I think it will need to sell like 10+ million for Square to consider it a success. I don't see that happening since its only PS4/X1. Too much of a burden on PS4 owners since Xbox has never been a platform for FF fans.

I think MGSV and FFXV will be the last true AAA games we see to come from Japan. I don't think we ever see anything like them again in terms of budget. Everything going forward will be mobile, handheld and more modest AA to B type of stuff.

In terms of critical failure I don't think we will see anything as bad as Tony Hawk or The Order 1886 in 2016.
 
Mirror's edge is going to be pretty interesting. If it reviews really really really well(90+metacritic) I could see it doing okay, but if not? It's over. Same applies for dues ex and hitman. Homefront 2 is destined to bomb.


wapplew said:
The Last Guardian is a good candidate for both commercially critically failure.
Commercially, Ueda's game never huge seller. No guns, no fancy quest and big open world, no multiplayer none of those selling point.
Critically, it might be a great game stuck in time, too short, no meaty content etc are huge turn off lots of "modern" critic.
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If it gets a 90+ metacritic it'll do a million plus. I think people over exaggerate how uninteresting the industry is. This gen might be one of the best times for niche Japanese games. And SoTC did pretty well and the ICO collection did too. I also haven't seen any game get low review scores just because it didn't have the things you mentioned.
 
I'm just glad we still are getting unique and weird games regardless of these companies knowing that their game probably won't sell terribly well. Games like The Last Guardian, Nier Automata, Scalebound, Star Fox Zero are all probably not gonna sell well but they may be some of the best games of the year to true gamers.
 
NMS will do fine sales wise. very good considering team size even but i can see a strong backlash from people expecting too much from it.


As much as it pains me to say it, i think Zelda might be a candidate for critical failure.
 
The Division, graphical downgrade aside, it just doesn't seem to be very interesting. I can't see how this will continue to interest players.
 
Pellegri Testament said:
If it's exclusive to WiiU and launches the same time as NX? Ya, no ones going to give 2 shits about WiiU or it's games compared to the shiny new console that just released and will likely have it's own system sellers. None of that really matters though because it won't be exclusive.
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So the 10 million or whatever people that have Wii U's in their homes right now suddenly won't give a shit about a game that they don't have to buy a new console for. Solid logic. And as you also said in your post cross-gen will probably save it from an impossible failure anyway.

I personally think The Last Guardian was probably an unsalvagable mess before they rebooted development on PS4 and that will still show in the final release and hurt reviews. People are still going to buy it anyway tho.

The Division is going to be Watch_Dogs 2.0. Huge graphical downgrade, brings nothing new to the table in terms of gameplay and lacking interesting characters.
 
I'm just gonna do commercial. I got Battleborn being an atomic bomba. Division reeks of underperformance. Although I want to see the Last Guardian do well I just don't see how it's capable. Finally all Xbone exclusives besides Gears this year will underperform, the fact that it's the 2nd place console and their exclusives haven't sold well this gen.
 
Commercially:
- The Last Guardian (Ueda games are brilliant, but don't sell exceptionally well)
- Dreams (Creation might be too esoteric for most people)
- Quantum Break (Looks good, but the console exclusive stuff hasn't sold near as well on Xbox over the past year)
- Anything on the Wii U (install base)

Critically:
- No Man's Sky (May not live up to people's expectations, even if it delivers on what Hello Games originally said it would do)
 
daveo42 said:
Anything on the Wii U (install base)
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The sad part is thinking about how many Wii U console owners are out there who haven't even bothered playing or heard of Bayonetta 2 or Xenoblade Chronicles X and only have Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros.
 
The Last Guardian is a big question mark. I'm not convinced there's even a good game in there.

No Man's Sky not being received well would cause meltdowns.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
It saddens me because it's one of the titles I am most looking forward to but this is my pick.

Horizon and Scalebound are two others I assume will underperform
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Have faith in Sam and the team at Remedy, I think critically it will review as their best game yet and unless they release the game on the same day as Red Dead 2 ... they're going to be fine. April seems like a good time to release a new IP and MS are allegedly going to be treating it like a tent pole release.

Scalebound I agree with though, especially if it releases in November! Horizon I think is going to be huge!
 
Like I'm really hyped for it, but I can't shake the feeling that No Man's Sky will be pretty barebone even with the million planets to be explored.
 
p3n said:
Gran Turismo Sport.

Critically: It will get the most varied and the worst reviews of all the GT games - it is after all aimed at the vocal hardcore online racing league. It will lack the bloat of previous GT games which, for many people, was what "made" these games. The online focus will probably be very wonky at first or people will just not "get it". I think PD will take about 6 months to a year to get everything streamlined once it is out.

Commercially: No way it will flop. It just wont reach GT3 numbers. Will it hold the long-term interest as PD seems to hope? I personally don't think there is a big enough audience that enjoys heated battles for 5th place in online races. If you ain't first, you're last! Also the required equipment (SUPPORTED racing wheel setup) is not something most PS4 owners have. Trying to compete online with a controller is bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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This thread has officially gone into the fantasy land.
 
Quantum Break(the TV series idea is just bad and previews weren't positive). Will likelly flop commercially and critically.

Platinum games will flop commercially as always (Nier, Scalebound, Star Fox).

PC\PS4 Rise of TR will be a major comercial flop.

Ubisoft games will under perform but still sell somewhat well.

ME will sell well, but still less than ME3, will also get mixed reviews.

Deus Ex will under perform.
 
Scalebound seems like it's going to get savaged in sales. The XB1 audience doesn't seem to be turning out in force for exclusives to begin with, and then add to that the fact that it's somewhat off-genre for the system's market and it just seems like a recipe for commercial disaster. I also think critical reception will be mild at best.

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 3 is going to get ripped apart by critics, but will sell suspiciously well for a Japan-only semi-exclusive release. (However, if it's ever released internationally the international sales won't measure up. I know, I'm really going nuts with this prediction.)
 
glaurung said:
Because I think that.

That's what the OP was asking.
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Obviously. He was asking why you think that.
astroturfing said:
i'd say Horizon, it's a Guerrilla game and they don't really sell much afaik. and i suspect it will lack meaningful content and disappoint as an open-world game (as compared to Fallout 4, Witcher 3).

and maybe Uncharted 4? just anecdotal but i haven't really heard anyone even talk about it, no one i know is hyped for it. and personally i've grown tired of the series. if it's more of the same but slightly prettier, no thanks..

but Dreams will be the biggest flop.
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by that logic, gran turismo 6 and gow ascension never happened. If we're him by developers and how well their games are supposed to sell.

As for Uc4, I have a feeling it will do halo numbers this time around.
 
Horizon is the one that I have a bee in my bonnet about.

Guerilla have never made a better than average game. The title and mechanics (mechanics not fully announced and still changing sure) but the gameplay looks derivative, the mech dinos have some great art, but are just a weird choice as a world hook. The whole thing has a funky feeling. The GAF hype stumps me

It will get a MC of 80 but probably deserve 70.
 
I hate saying this, but R&C will probably flop commercially. I think the critics would like it though, a return to form of what the franchise used to be...

Also, I think Dreams would flop both critically and commercially... I don't know about you guys, but the game seems too "all over the place" for my liking, and the art-style is off-putting. Which is a shame because I really like MM games. Tearaway Unfolded was amazing.
 
_Clash_ said:
Horizon is the one that I have a bee in my bonnet about.

Guerilla have never made a better than average game. The title and mechanics (mechanics not fully announced and still changing sure) but the gameplay looks derivative, the mech dinos have some great art, but are just a weird choice as a world hook. The whole thing has a funky feeling. The GAF hype stumps me

It will get a MC of 80 but probably deserve 70.
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this sounds more like you giving your personal opinion and pre-reception jus because it is guerrilla. Killzone 2 got a 92 on MC by the way, that's a better than average score. Kz3 scored in the 80s or 70s iirc, so you're telling me it should've been a 60?
 
The Artisan said:
this sounds more like you giving your personal opinion and pre-reception jus because it is guerrilla. Killzone 2 got a 92 on MC by the way, that's a better than average score. Kz3 scored in the 80s or 70s iirc, so you're telling me it should've been a 60?
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Nah,

I just think Horizon looks derivative. And the Killzone games were average IMO
 
Genei Ibun Roku ♯FE

Commercially it will fail and it will be ignored by critics. Still this game can't do wrong. Expectations are very low compared to Persona 5 and SMT IV Final. Combined with th limited run it will be a great collectors item.

Maybe it will get recognition later on.
 
1st Course said:
Battleborn

$60 FPS game with Moba elements. To make it worse it's releasing in the same year as Overwatch, a similar game that seems to have better reception and is available cheaper on PC.
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Yup Battleborn. Like Evolve it will die quickly.

Overwatch on the other hand looks awesome
 
The Artisan said:
well it's not the first open world rpg. It's gotta take inspiration from somewhere.
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Bit like Killzone with Halo back in the day eh ;)

Anyways, if you're hyped for it I hope it delivers for you.

Not seeing much worth getting excited for, but maybe that'll change?
 
The last guardian's spiritual predecessors were both considered two of the greatest games of all time, so it'd be a pretty damn huge surprise if tlg is panned.
 
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