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Shuhei Yoshida blames Hello Games for No Man's Sky PR
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well tbf yoshida trowed noone. Sean throwed himself and made absolutely sure that the bus definatly has no breaks.
Well I heard that Sony is eating shit left and right and that "Shu f#cking sucks."
Hm, well, maybe I read that wrong.
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
sony gave an indie dev freedom to do pr for their own game and now they should take the blame for it? it's always been hello games fault.
OP can have a great career in journalism.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I'll bite, what is the difference then?
Hitokiri03
Member
Sony did't finance the game development directly, they can't do that.
In Japan, for example.
Holy shit...
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
I totally agree with Yoshida,
Sony did a splendid job pushing the game though
Sony did a splendid job pushing the game though
Interesting.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Didn't Sony take on the marketing of this game? Marketing includes PR. If Sony did take it on then they should have reeled Hello Games back in
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
Bring back Kutaragi.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
My only hope for this and Sean is that he went on making a big update that he'll deliver in a year or so, free for people that already bought it, new version for new owners. But I don't see that happening, sadly..
What he said was true, but Sony published the title on the PS4, if they knew that some features are not present in the game, they should have held Sean on a tighter PR leash, cause they were also partially responsible for the message.
If they didn't know, then someone from Sony supervising the project fucked up.
If they didn't know, then someone from Sony supervising the project fucked up.
Nightengale
Member
Just like Destiny, right?
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-treating-destiny-like-a-first-party-game/1100-6422197/
Icyflamez96
Member
Uh, I'm pretty confused to why people think the topic title is so bad. It is entirely representative of the content in the post.
The article even straight says he blamed him. If Shu wasn't casting blame here, than what was he doing?
The article even straight says he blamed him. If Shu wasn't casting blame here, than what was he doing?
protomouse
Member
Someone remind me again why this is a PS4 console exclusive? These post-launch threads make it seem like Sony had nothing to do with the game.
GeordieMark
Member
'Scumbag Murray' is a bit much.
C'mon now, Sony. Does Naughty Dog handle all their PR too? Did, perhaps, you realize that presenting the idea of No Man's Sky was more attractive than presenting the game, and just let Hello Games loose?
There really is no difference.
Seriously ... hey, tempest -- here's your teapot, please get in.
Again all true but when the trailers aired Sony's name was attached to them. I know its semantics but in business situations like this no good comes from finger pointing. You are not going to look any better by arguing that the fault was with one of your business partners, no matter what the relationship was or the level of oversight on your part.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Looks like some have their pitchforks out for Sony despite it not even being their game. I wonder if these same people aimed their pitchforks at Sega for Aliens Colonial Marines?
Sony never told him to say what he did. Sony isn't the one developing the game.
Interfectum
Member
Yeah it's kinda crazy how defensive people are over the thread title. It's accurate if not a bit provocative.
Ninja Scooter
Member
The actual statement to me reads more like he's making excuses/copping pleas for Sean. It's not his fault he's an indie dev not a pr guy. But I guess the hyperbolic thread title makes it easier to push that "Sony took another pr hit!" narrative.
LiquidSolid
Member
Take a look at his post history, he absolutely meant it in a bad way.
JetSetRadio
Banned
I just wish we would have gotten some refund system out of this.
Looking at the whole interview now...
This thread should probably be replaced with a completely different one, as that was just one line of what Yosp said, and he generally was positive and not accusatory at all
This thread should probably be replaced with a completely different one, as that was just one line of what Yosp said, and he generally was positive and not accusatory at all
Jim_Cacher
Member
It sounds like "Now this is our deal. I help you get the game onto E3 stage and Colbert's show, but I am not going to assign you a PR person to help. You need to find one yourself. BTW, if you fuck up the marketing, it will be your fault."
Great message to all the developers who are currently under Sony support.
Great message to all the developers who are currently under Sony support.
Naughty Dog are an indie studio who also release their games on the PC?
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Sony didn't publish anything. They distributed it.
He likes the game and he's blaming Hello Games for No Man's Sky's PR.
If you think Shu liking the game is thread-worthy go ahead and make that thread.
Shu is being a "Dick" in saying he understands that some players are disappointed in having heard of features that aren't in the game, and that he thinks it wasn't a great PR strategy to talk about said features?
Wa?
He isn't the one who has been chasing an outlet to voice that opinion, he was asked the question at TGS. What is he supposed to say? "I have no opinion on whether or not all discussed features are in the final product, and do not know anything about complaints from players. Oh, here is my PR person, talk to them."?
Even the most ardent NMS fan (I personally like the game a lot) knows a ton of discussed (though not necessarily "advertised") features are missing still, from meaningful factions to real planetary system model, to only mention these.
Wa?
He isn't the one who has been chasing an outlet to voice that opinion, he was asked the question at TGS. What is he supposed to say? "I have no opinion on whether or not all discussed features are in the final product, and do not know anything about complaints from players. Oh, here is my PR person, talk to them."?
Even the most ardent NMS fan (I personally like the game a lot) knows a ton of discussed (though not necessarily "advertised") features are missing still, from meaningful factions to real planetary system model, to only mention these.
OP almost ready for true jornalism.
Glass Rebel
Member
I don't think Yoshida said something wrong here but he definitely is blaming Murray for the PR blunders (and thus throwing him under the bus).
So you won't hear any complaints about the thread title from me, it's not inaccurate.
So you won't hear any complaints about the thread title from me, it's not inaccurate.
Cyborg
Member
I saw it. Thanx, he is indeed pushing it
InsaneTiger
Member
Exactly, Sean still hasn't said anything but he chooses not too. Sony shouldn't have to say anything, they weren't the publisher and for all we know Hello could have told Sony that they would handle the PR aspects.
Hello Games made their bed.
Here is the question: At which point did Sony know that Sean was spewing lies? Did they know it at all? Did they know it and didn't do anything? Until we find out the answer to this question we can only blame them for being ignorant of what was going. Which still puts them in bad spot light.
Top of the page again! I swear I am doing that on purpose.