Sorry, but who lied to us? Come on, if the game isn't ready it just fucking isn't. "development is going great" doesn't equal "we will be revealing our game tomorrow".beast786 said:But where the hell was starhawk?
Someone lied to us and I want answeres.
It's not stupid. They won the buzz going into E3 and maintained it.Sentry said:Sorry, but who lied to us? Come on, if the game isn't ready it just fucking isn't. "development is going great" doesn't equal "we will be revealing our game tomorrow".
Trust me, I would have loved to see a warhawk sequel too (top 5 games ever) but give them time. What people should be getting on about is Sony's stupidity revealing so much so early. They could cut that PSP shit in half, and revealed MotorStorm 3 or Infamous, hell just via trailer. It's quite ridiculous how they shot themselves.. like 4 huge sequel reveals and not one at E3? smh.
Sentry said:Sorry, but who lied to us? Come on, if the game isn't ready it just fucking isn't. "development is going great" doesn't equal "we will be revealing our game tomorrow".
It is stupid, you don't need 4 huge reveals prior to E3 to maintain hype, KZ3 and LBP2 would be more than enough. And it DOES matter, you know how this shit does down just as well as I do, conferences are rated by what happened AT THE CONFERENCE not prior. Just a bit disappointing is all, can't wait for GC though.JWong said:It's not stupid. They won the buzz going into E3 and maintained it.
It doesn't matter if they had less surprises at the conference, they showed a lot more over the course of E3.
Never said it was announced. DylanJobe tweets out stuff all the time like 'we just showed Sony our latest build' etc, nothing really just his way of keeping us on the edge of our seats.jorma said:Wait what? Is starhawk announced? I thought this was just in the "this is the game we hope they are making" department so far! Is there a link to this? =)
And that's exactly what is BS. E3 isn't just the conference.Sentry said:It is stupid, you don't need 4 huge reveals prior to E3 to maintain hype, KZ3 and LBP2 would be more than enough. And it DOES matter, you know how this shit does down just as well as I do, conferences are rated by what happened AT THE CONFERENCE not prior. Just a bit disappointing is all, can't wait for GC though.![]()
Sure, but that's just the way it works. This way you get people with opinions like the post above yours. If say InFamous 2 was revealed or whatever, it may have from 'disappointing' to 'pretty good'.JWong said:And that's exactly what is BS. E3 isn't just the conference.
Sentry said:Never said it was announced. DylanJobe tweets out stuff all the time like 'we just showed Sony our latest build' etc, nothing really just his way of keeping us on the edge of our seats.
God I will be so depressed if they announce whatever they're doing and has nothing to do with Warhawk or is barely similar.Just thinking of that possibility makes me want to email DJ right now.
as for Insomniac , for me it's really hard to believe they can bring quality back to R3 when they are working for themselves and on their own IPs now , this is why I prefer giving the IP to other some developer who can focus on it.
DangerousDave said:So... two years ago, FF XIII goes to 360. Big surprise ever (even if Square has done several 360 exclusive games). Best Conference ever.
Valve didn't make any game in PS3 (Orange Box was badly ported by EA), and says (only a month ago) that PS3 is not worthy because is closed like a GC and not open like a Mac. It appears in the conference announcing Portal 2 going multiplatform, and with PS3 being the best console version. And this is not a surprise at all. No megaton. Conference is as bad as kinect one.
I really can't understand gaf, sometimes...
highluxury said:isnt it obvious?
DangerousDave said:So... two years ago, FF XIII goes to 360. Big surprise ever (even if Square has done several 360 exclusive games). Best Conference ever.
Valve didn't make any game in PS3 (Orange Box was badly ported by EA), and says (only a month ago) that PS3 is not worthy because is closed like a GC and not open like a Mac. It appears in the conference announcing Portal 2 going multiplatform, and with PS3 being the best console version. And this is not a surprise at all. No megaton. Conference is as bad as kinect one.
I really can't understand gaf, sometimes...
Kittonwy said:March-June would make it too close to Killzone 3 and Infamous.
The shooter market is strong every single year. It's not going to get overshadowed by SOCOM 4, and you're going to get a COD every winter, and MOH is basically looking like EA's MW2 clone, next year we might see another COD game and probably a BF game, every year is stuffed with shooters. My point is that if they're looking for some breathing space to release R3, this holiday season would be best to bill R3 as their big first-party shooter.
Sony needs to ensure they have a steady stream of first party content and not worry about whether they're "cannibalizing" 3rd party sales, if anything they SHOULD cannibalize 3rd party sales and rely less on third party publishers, get more users supporting their own IPs and anchor them to the playstation brand instead of having to worry about how to get the next COD or MOH on their console or having to fight over some exclusive DLC deal, the reason why the PS3 userbase isn't as strong is partly because of the fact that they relied on third-party too much and they got burnt when many of the fan favorite IPs went multiplatform.
KZObsessed said:What date is Gamescom this year?
Schrade said:Entire conference is now available. This is directly from PSN, 1280x720 H.264 video.
Sony E3 Press Conference Part 1
Callibretto said:not saying I disagree with you, but if Sony doesn't do anything about 3rd party, then ms comes in with the dlc exclusive deals, and even though the game is multiplatform, the general perception is in 360 favor, sales skew to 360 version and it may give bad impression that 3rd party games don't sell too well on ps3.
I think Sony realize that and start making deals too now. maybe they experiment with Batman Joker dlc thing and it seem to pay off for them.
DangerousDave said:So... two years ago, FF XIII goes to 360. Big surprise ever (even if Square has done several 360 exclusive games). Best Conference ever.
Valve didn't make any game in PS3 (Orange Box was badly ported by EA), and says (only a month ago) that PS3 is not worthy because is closed like a GC and not open like a Mac. It appears in the conference announcing Portal 2 going multiplatform, and with PS3 being the best console version. And this is not a surprise at all. No megaton. Conference is as bad as kinect one.
I really can't understand gaf, sometimes...
DangerousDave said:Sony should focus in free extra content for his version (like it's doing), instead of allowing their users to buy the DLC earlier than the competence.
If we're talking about free MoH1 with new MoH, it's great. If we're talking about letting me buy a DLC before the competence, don't want.
Sentry said:It is stupid, you don't need 4 huge reveals prior to E3 to maintain hype, KZ3 and LBP2 would be more than enough. And it DOES matter, you know how this shit does down just as well as I do, conferences are rated by what happened AT THE CONFERENCE not prior. Just a bit disappointing is all, can't wait for GC though.
Never said it was announced. DylanJobe tweets out stuff all the time like 'we just showed Sony our latest build' etc, nothing really just his way of keeping us on the edge of our seats.
God I will be so depressed if they announce whatever they're doing and has nothing to do with Warhawk or is barely similar.Just thinking of that possibility makes me want to email DJ right now.
Callibretto said:not saying I disagree with you, but if Sony doesn't do anything about 3rd party, then ms comes in with the dlc exclusive deals, and even though the game is multiplatform, the general perception is in 360 favor, sales skew to 360 version and it may give bad impression that 3rd party games don't sell too well on ps3.
I think Sony realize that and start making deals too now. maybe they experiment with Batman Joker dlc thing and it seem to pay off for them.
Jax said:The sony conference would have had way more impact if
Infamous2
Motorstorm
Killzone3
all didn't show up prior.
That said, they CHOSE to show 2 of the 3, leading us to speculate a MOVE centric show but they didn't do that either. Show was balanced was some unevenness but they covered all their bases. THe only peculiarity here is the leak of the 3x exclusives. If they ended on Twisted Metal, with no footage. They'd done a lot better. The presentation left a lot to be desired.
Looking for that as well, guess it's not up in the PS Store yet then..andy_lhc said:Does anyone has the direct link for Sony's Conference Part 4?
Kittonwy said:Not saying they can't do exclusive DLC deals, but conference time is limited and they really should show off more of their own stuff, if they have an Infamous 2 demo available to show to the press, why not have the game in the conference? Give Sucker Punch the spotlight for once. Why rush the Killzone 3 presentation instead of giving the crowd a longer look? Instead of covering all your bases, pick the best stuff and give them quality time.
The Dead Space 2 presentation was completely redundant, your first party stuff IS your brand, that's how you generate brand loyalty, through software that you can't get anywhere else, they need to build strong IPs that their fans will always stick with them regardless of what Square-Enix or EA choose to do, the age where people associate third party content with a particular console manufacturer has come and gone. They need at least one major first-party IP for every region through marketing and exposure and I'm not sure they have done that yet.
JaseC said:August 18-22. Not too long to go now.
Cruzader said:And what does this mean:
White Knight Chronicles 2 (includes updated version of WKC1)
So WKC2 is 2 games in 1? Or just that the engine from WKC is updated to be used in WKC2?
SolidusDave said:big lists incoming...
PS3 exclusive stuff of the coming (two) years so far (not all shown at E3):
After GC in 2 and TGS in 3 months it should be a bit more clear which games will support which features or exclusive content, which games are still exclusive etc. etc.
Sony PS3 games:
- Ape Escape (Move game?)
- Gran Turismo 5 (PSEye/Move support & 3D)
- Heroes on the Move (Move game)
- inFamous 2
- Killzone 3 (Move support & 3D)
- LittleBigPlanet 2 (Move support)
- Motorstorm: Apocalypse (3D)
- SingStar Dance (Move game)
- SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs (Move support)
- Sorcery (Move game)
- Sports Champions (Move game)
- Start the Party! (Move game)
- The Fight: Lights Out (Move game)
- The Last Guardian
- The Shoot (Move game)
- The Sly Collection (Move support & 3D)
- TV Superstars (Move game)
- Twisted Metal
- White Knight Chronicles 2 (includes updated version of WKC1)
updated versions:
- EyePet US release (Move game & 3D)
- Heavy Rain Move edition (Move support, standard edition will also be patched)
- MLB 10 The Show 2010 (3D, via patch?)
note: Move game does not necessarily mean, it's Move input only, but it's likely.
I left out Starhawk, I think it's not as official as Ape Escape?
Sony PSN games:
- Beat Sketcher (Move game)
- Dead Nation
- Eat Them!
- echochrome II (Move game)
- Journey
- PixelJunk Racers: 2nd Lap
- PixelJunk Shooter 2
- Tumble (Move game & 3D)
updated versions:
- High Velocity Bowling (Move support via patch)
- Hustle Kings (Move support via patch)
- PAIN (Move support via patch & already available 3D)
note: sometimes it's not known if a game will be disc or download (only).
Third Party PS3 exclusive games:
- A.C.E.: Another Century's Episode R
- Agent
- Atelier Rorona 2 (and a western version of AR1)
- Bumpy Trot 2
- Chou Jigen Game: Neptune
- Disgaea 4
- Final Fantasy Versus XIII
- Kurayami
- Ni-Oh
- Record of Agarest War 2
- Time Crisis Razing Storm (Move game(s))
- TRINITY: Souls of Zill O'll
- White Album: Tsuzurareru Fuyu no Omoide
Third Party PSN exclusive games:
- Alive & Undead
- Days of Thunder: NASCAR Edition
- Kung-Fu LIVE (PSEye/Move game)
- Kung Fu Rider (Move game)
- Landit Bandit
- Malicious
- Replika
- Tales from Space: About a Blob
- TerRover
- Top Gun
- Under Siege
note: sometimes It's hard to say which PSN games are only "published" by Sony w/o owning the IP
PS3 console exclusive games (=also available on PC):
- DC Universe Online
- Final Fantasy XIV Online
- Free Realms
- The Agency
PSN console exclusive games (=also available on PC):
- Lucha Fury
- Trine 2
Now the unimportant part, but still a bit interesting because of PS3 feature adaptation rate:
Multi(console)platform games with PS3 (console) exclusive features:
- Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (apparently exclusive content? I don't count the beta)
- Brunswick Pro Bowling (Move support)
- Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos (Move support)
- Disney's Tron Evolution the Video Game (Move support & 3D)
- Dead Space 2 (exclusive CE including the PS3 port of Dead Space Extraction incl. Move support)
- John Daly's ProStroke Golf (Move support)
- Mafia II (exclusive content)
- Medal of Honor (exclusive CE including the PS3 port of Medal Of Honor: Frontline)
- Mortal Kombat (3D)
- NBA 2K11 (Move support & 3D)
- Portal 2 (Steamworks)
- R.U.S.E. (Move support)
- Racquet Sports (Move support)
- Resident Evil 5 Gold Edition (Move support)
- Shaun White Skateboarding (3D)
- The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest (Move support)
- Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 11 (Move support)
- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier (3D)
- Toy Story 3: The Video Game (Move support)
note: it's not clear which games have 3D only on PS3 (e.g. Crysis is in 3D on all 3 platforms) and if some of these games also are controllable via Kinect.
Also, I don't think DS:Extraction HD and MoH:Frontline HD are actually exclusive but the CE's with them are, probably standard PSN/XBLA games.
In the wide space of the internet there are a lot of games listed as PS3 exclusives of which there is no real info (because they are niche jp games) or if they are on ice/cancelled etc., enjoy:
Angel Rings, Eyedentify, Pro Mahjong Goku Final, Rengoku: The End of the Century, Seikan, Slotter Mania, Sunrise Eiyuutan, Derby Stallion, Fifth Phantom Saga, Omikron 2, Pachinko Jikki, PachiPara Slot: Pachi-Slot Super Umi Monogatari, Redwood Falls, Gradiuc Arc, Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2010. Ken to Mahou to Gakuen Mono. 2G, Ken to Mahou to Gakuen Mono. 3, Makai Wars, Saikyou Ginsei Shougi 7, Amphibian Man, Kung Fu Hustle and some more.
note: if I missed something in these lists (officially announced) or I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
As I said, coming months should shed some light on the unclear stuff.
So far there are some gems in the line-up and a relatively big third party support for Sony's new features.
SolidusDave said:big lists incoming...
Third Party PS3 exclusive games:
- A.C.E.: Another Century's Episode R
- Agent
- Atelier Rorona 2 (and a western version of AR1)
- Bumpy Trot 2
- Chou Jigen Game: Neptune
- Disgaea 4
- Final Fantasy Versus XIII
- Kurayami
- Ni-Oh
- Record of Agarest War 2
- Time Crisis Razing Storm (Move game(s))
- TRINITY: Souls of Zill O'll
- White Album: Tsuzurareru Fuyu no Omoide
note: if I missed something in these lists (officially announced) or I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
SolidusDave said:2 games in 1, but it comes with a little catch :lol
(you need to play through the first game or need to have a completed savegame of WKC1 before you are even allowed to start WKC2)
SolidusDave said:
- Gran Turismo 5 (PSEye/Move support & 3D)
- inFamous 2
- LittleBigPlanet 2 (Move support)
- The Last Guardian
- Twisted Metal
- Dead Nation
- echochrome II (Move game)
- Journey
- PixelJunk Shooter 2
- Agent
- Final Fantasy Versus XIII
sykoex said:Holy crap at Sorcery. My GOTS for sure.
I was wondering if Move would deliver for hardcore gamers, nice to see Sony relieving my fears. Depending on how far they take the different spell types and transformations (like turning into the rat), this game could have some SICK puzzle elements.
Galvanise_ said:There was also the game that appeared to be a survival horror IP from Sony in the same video. Hopefully thats revealed at Gamescom. Here is an image of its brief appearance in that same trailer.
slider said:I wish I hadn't clicked that link. Another game to anticipate (based on very little).
SolidusDave said:2 games in 1, but it comes with a little catch :lol
(you need to play through the first game or need to have a completed savegame of WKC1 before you are even allowed to start WKC2)
androvsky said:Looks like you're missing Ar Tonelico 3 for third-party PS3 exclusives. I don't know if you want to count Trinity Universe since it comes out in the U.S. in a couple weeks, list looks pretty solid otherwise.![]()
StuBurns said:That's all I care about of the exclusives, but I'm pretty sure some of the third party stuff you named if very canceled.
Galvanise_ said:There was also the game that appeared to be a survival horror IP from Sony in the same video. Hopefully thats revealed at Gamescom. Here is an image of its brief appearance in that same trailer.