komplanen said:

This is not the way to fight back :-(

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benjipwns said:

I'm not riled up, this is fine. I don't want to go beyond the questions asked and make assumptions about what looking for.

No, not ever. Well, probably not ever. Hypothetically I could suppose a situation under very certain circumstances.

But no, I don't support the corporate form know as the state. I am essentially an extreme pacifist. Though I understand others wish for the use of self-defense and try to accommodate it to an extent.

My ideal is voluntary governance. This probably precludes "countries" as we understand them, and something closer to a federated city-state at largest. But I'm not an utopian so I'm open to various ideas. Including the idea that most people do want the nation-state or larger and its related extensive...action.

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St3v3 said:

Are they also trying to rob him? Jesus, apparently beating the shit out of him wasn't enough for them. I guess when opportunity knocks....

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FiggyCal said:

Did you end up not voting for Gary Johnson?

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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MHWilliams said:

I disagree with Benji on many things, but his posts are reasonable. I'm not seeing the melodrama.

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benjipwns said:

I'm not riled up, this is fine. I don't want to go beyond the questions asked and make assumptions about what looking for.

No, not ever. Well, probably not ever. Hypothetically I could suppose a situation under very certain circumstances.

But no, I don't support the corporate form know as the state. I am essentially an extreme pacifist. Though I understand others wish for the use of self-defense and try to accommodate it to an extent.

My ideal is voluntary governance. This probably precludes "countries" as we understand them, and something closer to a federated city-state at largest. But I'm not an utopian so I'm open to various ideas. Including the idea that most people do want the nation-state or larger and its related extensive...action.

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E92 M3 said:

An old man could have died from head injuries and had his car stolen, yet some people still try to play the "what if" game.

Shit is fucked up, yo.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back.

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oo7 said:

People in here actually justifying this because of a vote??? Where am I?

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Audioboxer said:

You are still by choice censoring your ability to contribute to how that system may run

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David Friedman said:

When a consumer buys a product on the market, he can compare alternative brands. … When you elect a politician, you buy nothing but promises. … You can compare 1968 Fords, Chryslers, and Volkswagens, but nobody will ever be able to compare the Nixon administration of 1969 with the Humphrey and Wallace administrations of the same year. It is as if we had only Fords from 1920 to 1928, Chryslers from 1928 to 1936, and then had to decide what firm would make a better car for the next four years….

Not only does a consumer have better information than a voter, it is of more use to him. If I investigate alternative brands of cars …. decide which is best for me, and buy it, I get it. If I investigate alternative politicians and vote accordingly, I get what the majority votes for. …

Imagine buying cars the way we buy governments. Ten thousand people would get together and agree to vote, each for the car he preferred. Whichever car won, each of the ten thousand would have to buy it. It would not pay any of us to make any serious effort to find out which car was best; whatever I decide, my car is being picked for me by the other members of the group. … This is how I must buy products on the political marketplace. I not only cannot compare the alternative products, it would not be worth my while to do so even if I could.

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NimbleNavigator said:

Waiting for context of this video - who's to say he didn't provoke them?

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Gaylord Sweetwood said:

Yeah a lot of people are coming out of the woodwork. Terrible people on both sides this election. I thought we were better than that here. Waiting to see if any cleanup will be administered.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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benjipwns said:

I disagree. But rather than derail the thread further let me just steal a quote that's unfortunately from David Friedman:

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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andycapps said:

Ugh. This is not right. Not a Trump supporter in the least but dragging a citizen from their car and multiple people assaulting them is not the way forward.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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Acquiescence said:

That's how you educate somebody, by kicking them in the face. I'm sure it won't have the opposite effect and reinforce the man's dodgy views even more so.

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sketchsanchez said:

Tired of hearing this is not the way.

The way got us a white supremacist president of the United States

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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TheJLC said:

Kedzie and Roosevelt. Hope they get the ass holes and are charged with a Hate Crime. Poor man had no chance against these idiots who attacked and robbed this man cause he's white.

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M52B28 said:

Let me quote it again.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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sketchsanchez said:

Tired of hearing this is not the way.

The way got us a white supremacist president of the United States

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kame-sennin said:

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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PopeReal said:

No one is saying it is ok to assault someone.

But I hope all of you that are so offended by violence and hate also stand up for all Americans. Don't pick and choose.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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Dsyndrome said:

I honestly don't know how you're not banned for this shit. It's not the first time you'v advocated for it either.

Violence is not the fucking answer.

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sketchsanchez said:

Tired of hearing this is not the way.

The way got us a white supremacist president of the United States

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evilromero said:

Totally agree.100 fucking %. The fucking double standard on display, the obvious bias, the moderate attitude on display in this thread is fucked. We have a thread with a growing number of violent hate crimes against POC while this incident stays at the top?

I agree. Protect yourself. I'm standing with you, fighting with you for your equal rights. Not words but my body. Nobody deserves to take this kind of treatment sitting down. White Americans doesn't want to be inconvenienced. Well, too bad.

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kame-sennin said:

Don't tell black people how to fight back. If you're not black, you won't have to deal with the consequences that black people face on the daily.

The reactions to this video in general show why White America deserves Donald Trump. People scream about how Trump is an existential threat and how important it is to vote (the most passive form of political participation) against him. But when people are willing to attack clan rallies, or riot, or beat up a Trump supporter, then things have gone too far.

Y'all need to unpack what you're really saying here. Donald Trump wants to tear people's families apart. He wants refugees to die at sea. Rape survivors have to deal with PTSD every time their own president is on television. Just last night, 8 trans youth committed suicide because they saw what their country thought about people like them.

For marginalized communities, this isn't a game. It's not a sporting event where you root for your team or a reality show where you text your vote to beat the contestant you don't like. Our lives are literally on the line. If you don't think that's worth throwing a few punches over, then don't talk to me. Miss me with that civility shit. Because your decorum is not more important than my life.

"If a white man wants to be your ally, what does he think of John Brown? You know what John Brown did? He went to war. He was a white man who went to war against white people to help free slaves. He wasn’t nonviolent. White people call John Brown a nut. Go read the history, go read what all of them say about John Brown. They’re trying to make it look like he was a nut, a fanatic. They made a movie on it, I saw a movie on the screen one night. Why, I would be afraid to get near John Brown if I go by what other white folks say about him.

But they depict him in this image because he was willing to shed blood to free the slaves. And any white man who is ready and willing to shed blood for your freedom—in the sight of other whites, he’s nuts. As long as he wants to come up with some nonviolent action, they go for that, if he’s liberal, a nonviolent liberal, a love-everybody liberal. But when it comes time for making the same kind of contribution for your and my freedom that was necessary for them to make for their own freedom, they back out of the situation. So, when you want to know good white folks in history where black people are concerned, go read the history of John Brown. That was what I call a white liberal. But those other kind, they are questionable."

- Malcom X​

Y'all are questionable as fuck.

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hollomat said:

By advocate for random assaults on anyone who voted for trump, you're just as disgusting as the people you hate.

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sketchsanchez said:

Tired of hearing this is not the way.

The way got us a white supremacist president of the United States

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