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"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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iSurvivedTheOutage
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abuC said:
Just bought some 3gb cards today.
Shottas is such a great movie.
The whole world must be downloading the new nvidia drivers..10 minutes for 147mb? sheesh..
Last minute check before I boot:
I have a 580 gtx and xonar DG installed atm and currently only have power cables connected to the video card. Are there any other cables I need to connect or are the PCI slots doing the rest? Does the front panel HD audio go on the sound card or on the motherboard?
Thanks for the help.
I have a 580 gtx and xonar DG installed atm and currently only have power cables connected to the video card. Are there any other cables I need to connect or are the PCI slots doing the rest? Does the front panel HD audio go on the sound card or on the motherboard?
Thanks for the help.
ConstructMe
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What was the highest aa?Smokey said:
ConstructMe
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Ok nice.Smokey said:
Cooler Master Storm Trooper Full Tower Case Review·feist· said:For the lan crowd, that video also has a look at the new Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper case.
Gamescom Special 2011 - CM Storm Trooper, Sirus und Keyboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG3hkD37Ero#t=02m40s
*click for 1,280px × 853px*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHbrsDrjpXI
CM Storm Trooper Computer Case Review
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=808&Itemid=61
So I pulled the trigger on my new Sandy Bridge rig. Thanks Newegg for preferred account and no interest for 12 months!
i5 2500k 3.3ghz replaces e8500 Core 2
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 - went with the Z68 because i sold my old gfx card and have no fall back if my current one dies.
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus cooler
should play nice with my Zotac GTX 560 ti in this...
Corsair 400r - went with the Corsair for the awesome layout, cable management, fit and finish and that it has lots of room for huge GFX cards. Using the Corsair HX 520 modular PSU out of my current machine for now.
Im going to hold on to my 1680x1050 monitor but can still play on my 1080p 46in tv easily enough.
Should get me by ok until Kepler then I can decide what I want to do.
i5 2500k 3.3ghz replaces e8500 Core 2
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 - went with the Z68 because i sold my old gfx card and have no fall back if my current one dies.
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus cooler
should play nice with my Zotac GTX 560 ti in this...
Corsair 400r - went with the Corsair for the awesome layout, cable management, fit and finish and that it has lots of room for huge GFX cards. Using the Corsair HX 520 modular PSU out of my current machine for now.
Im going to hold on to my 1680x1050 monitor but can still play on my 1080p 46in tv easily enough.
Should get me by ok until Kepler then I can decide what I want to do.
robor
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I have a Mini Mac and I'm about to go back to PC for the first time in a long time and I need your help.
Here are some decisions I've made about certain hardware:
- Planning to use an ATi GPU
- CPU I am completely confused with as I have no idea which is better between AMD and Intel.
- Sound card (real important as I'm aiming towards becoming a full fledged sound designer) I've no idea.
- Looking at using DDR3 RAM as I guess it's safe to assume that it will be the way of the future??
- Chipset I am also lost on, though I've heard the ASUS P5K3 Deluxe is quite awesome???
- Cooling system NO IDEA.
I'm looking at trying to build a fairly small and compact tower that has high memory capacity, moderately high graphical power, has a low carbon footprint and consumes minimal power. I'm not looking to max out the graphics in any particular game but I do want to overlock if ONLY for leeway in CPU "stress" levels (if that makes any sense).
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BASIC SUMMARY:
Budget: $1600.00 AUD
Main Use: Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii/SNES/GEN/MAME/OLD PC GAMES), Programming, Sound Design and general usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback)
Games: Crysis
I'm planning to get this PC as soon as I've figured out all the possibilities that loosely fit my above desires.
That is where GAF comes in. I truly hope you guys can help me out. I've done some research on various parts of the PC build (involving motherboard, CPU and GPU) but I still need advice for those who have a lot of experience in building PCs etc.
Thank you.
Here are some decisions I've made about certain hardware:
- Planning to use an ATi GPU
- CPU I am completely confused with as I have no idea which is better between AMD and Intel.
- Sound card (real important as I'm aiming towards becoming a full fledged sound designer) I've no idea.
- Looking at using DDR3 RAM as I guess it's safe to assume that it will be the way of the future??
- Chipset I am also lost on, though I've heard the ASUS P5K3 Deluxe is quite awesome???
- Cooling system NO IDEA.
I'm looking at trying to build a fairly small and compact tower that has high memory capacity, moderately high graphical power, has a low carbon footprint and consumes minimal power. I'm not looking to max out the graphics in any particular game but I do want to overlock if ONLY for leeway in CPU "stress" levels (if that makes any sense).
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BASIC SUMMARY:
Budget: $1600.00 AUD
Main Use: Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii/SNES/GEN/MAME/OLD PC GAMES), Programming, Sound Design and general usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback)
Games: Crysis
I'm planning to get this PC as soon as I've figured out all the possibilities that loosely fit my above desires.
That is where GAF comes in. I truly hope you guys can help me out. I've done some research on various parts of the PC build (involving motherboard, CPU and GPU) but I still need advice for those who have a lot of experience in building PCs etc.
Thank you.
GAF, I have built the rig I asked about a month+ ago and so far it's awesome, looks great and plays great too, so a big thank you for the help. Now on to the bad part: I seem to be getting grey screen crashes and greenish vertical line crashes on The Witcher, I can't get past the first minute of the game because of it. The Witcher 2 runs perfectly but the first one doesn't.
It's also worth noting that the rest of the system isn't locked up, I can still hear everything going on and myself moving, just I can't see it.
Specs are:
MSI 6950 TFIII PE - 900MHz/1325/stock
Core i5 2500k @ 4.61Ghz
Corsair Vengeance 8GB @ 1600
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P
There isn't any overheating going on I believe and my case is well ventilated and tidy.
Hope you don't mind me asking here.
It's also worth noting that the rest of the system isn't locked up, I can still hear everything going on and myself moving, just I can't see it.
Specs are:
MSI 6950 TFIII PE - 900MHz/1325/stock
Core i5 2500k @ 4.61Ghz
Corsair Vengeance 8GB @ 1600
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P
There isn't any overheating going on I believe and my case is well ventilated and tidy.
Hope you don't mind me asking here.
As i promised but with some delay :
Case : Fractal Design Define R3 black
PSU : Corsair 750W AX750
MB : Gigabyte x68X-UD4-B3
CPU : Intel core i5 2500K
Cooler : Coolermaster Hyper 212+
RAM : G.Skill RipJaws RL DDR3-1600 CL9 8Go
GPU : MSI GeForce N570GTX-Twin-Frozr III power edition OC
SSD : Crucial M4 128gb
HDD : Samsung 2Tb S-ATA II SpinPoint F4 EcoGreen (HD204UI)
DVD burner : some Asus in Black
The unit is silent, very cool (haven't o/c'ed yet and cpu is 25° ) and the performance is neat. Cost me 1241 in France (Paris).
Case : Fractal Design Define R3 black
PSU : Corsair 750W AX750
MB : Gigabyte x68X-UD4-B3
CPU : Intel core i5 2500K
Cooler : Coolermaster Hyper 212+
RAM : G.Skill RipJaws RL DDR3-1600 CL9 8Go
GPU : MSI GeForce N570GTX-Twin-Frozr III power edition OC
SSD : Crucial M4 128gb
HDD : Samsung 2Tb S-ATA II SpinPoint F4 EcoGreen (HD204UI)
DVD burner : some Asus in Black
The unit is silent, very cool (haven't o/c'ed yet and cpu is 25°
) and the performance is neat. Cost me 1241 in France (Paris).I was tabbing around for gold PSU's... The Seasonic X650W is $110 on sale for 3 more days.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
**Very slick build. Can you confirm that you can slide the CM212+ fan up to accommodate RAM in the first slot?
Lower your GPU to 800/1200
CPU to stock
Set memory manually to voltage, timing, speed in BIOS.
Stuff like that is almost always OC related, driver after.
AMD Bulldozer should be releasing in 4 weeks. If you do a lot of work that uses lots of cores this might be a good value. Impressions from me are that it is going to be about on the same level, however Intel is far ahead in emulation speed.
Look at the Excellent build. Toss in a 2600K. Grab an 80+ Gold PSU. Upgrade memory to what you want. Audio card, maybe Xonar ST or STX?
If you decide on an mATX case and build mention that.
HD6950 is a nice solid card, so is a 6970 if you want to spend that.
Power saving on current machines is very aggressive. Idle power is super low now.
I'd also get an SSD. Intel 320 for stability if you are doing work on it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
**Very slick build. Can you confirm that you can slide the CM212+ fan up to accommodate RAM in the first slot?
Intel 320 for stability, or Crucial M4.Jintor said:
Obvious steps first.FrancisH said:
Lower your GPU to 800/1200
CPU to stock
Set memory manually to voltage, timing, speed in BIOS.
Stuff like that is almost always OC related, driver after.
Must be outdated if you are still thinking of a 775 boardrobor said:
AMD Bulldozer should be releasing in 4 weeks. If you do a lot of work that uses lots of cores this might be a good value. Impressions from me are that it is going to be about on the same level, however Intel is far ahead in emulation speed.
Look at the Excellent build. Toss in a 2600K. Grab an 80+ Gold PSU. Upgrade memory to what you want. Audio card, maybe Xonar ST or STX?
If you decide on an mATX case and build mention that.
HD6950 is a nice solid card, so is a 6970 if you want to spend that.
Power saving on current machines is very aggressive. Idle power is super low now.
I'd also get an SSD. Intel 320 for stability if you are doing work on it.
Corky said:
Yep this was everything cranked as you said. Motion blur at 70/100 I believe. Averaged 45 like I said at 1080p on a single 580. I'm sure youcould reduce some settings here and there while still staying Ultra and hit close to 60. I was also on stock clocks on my GPUs (832mhz).
robor
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Hazaro said:Must be outdated if you are still thinking of a 775 board
AMD Bulldozer should be releasing in 4 weeks. If you do a lot of work that uses lots of cores this might be a good value. Impressions from me are that it is going to be about on the same level, however Intel is far ahead in emulation speed.
Look at the Excellent build. Toss in a 2600K. Grab an 80+ Gold PSU. Upgrade memory to what you want. Audio card, maybe Xonar ST or STX?
If you decide on an mATX case and build mention that.
HD6950 is a nice solid card, so is a 6970 if you want to spend that.
Power saving on current machines is very aggressive. Idle power is super low now.
I'd also get an SSD. Intel 320 for stability if you are doing work on it.
Dude, thank you for everything. I think I'm almost good to go!
Two questions I must ask:
1. When looking at a PSU, what Gold 80+ would you recommend with this setup?
CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K
GPU: ATi 6970 2GB
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Maximus IV Gene Z
RAM: Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance DDR3
SSD: Intel 320 Series
HDD: Samsung F4 2TB
CASE: microATX
OPTICAL DRIVE: ASUS DRW-24B3ST 24X DVDRW Drive
MONITOR: BenQ HD
COOLER: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ CPU Cooler
SOUND CARD: ASUS Xonar ST
2. When you say "build mention that" about the mATX, what exactly do you mean? When I go into a store with my spec-sheet?
Anyways thanks again!
*edit* Forgot to mention that down the track, I'm also getting a 1080p monitor too.
Budget: Cheapo, in British pounds
Main Use: 1080p video playback, web browsing (no gaming)
Monitor Resolution: 1080p
Are reusing any parts?: All but mobo/CPU covered (DDR3 and DDR2 RAM floating about too)
When will you build?: Very soon
Will you be overclocking?: No
Wanting a good performance/price ratio for a mobo/CPU combo. Looking at the very cheap CPUs like E5700/E6600/X2 260 etc and cheap mobos. I've read a few times that AMD mobos offer better IGPs, but maybe that's the higher end because benchmarks seems to show the G41 intel ones on par with the £20-£25 more expensive Radeon HD 4250 ones. And if you want to pay about £35 for an AMD mobo like the £35 intel G41s, then you're stuck with Geforce 7025 which seems to be awful.
Main Use: 1080p video playback, web browsing (no gaming)
Monitor Resolution: 1080p
Are reusing any parts?: All but mobo/CPU covered (DDR3 and DDR2 RAM floating about too)
When will you build?: Very soon
Will you be overclocking?: No
Wanting a good performance/price ratio for a mobo/CPU combo. Looking at the very cheap CPUs like E5700/E6600/X2 260 etc and cheap mobos. I've read a few times that AMD mobos offer better IGPs, but maybe that's the higher end because benchmarks seems to show the G41 intel ones on par with the £20-£25 more expensive Radeon HD 4250 ones. And if you want to pay about £35 for an AMD mobo like the £35 intel G41s, then you're stuck with Geforce 7025 which seems to be awful.
I'm running 2 EVGA 560ti's and I'm having high temps on one of the cards. One stays in the 70s under load, but the other gets up to the mid 90s.
I suspect it's because of the limited space between the two cards preventing airflow for the top card.
Would a PCI slot exhaust fan help this? What else can I do?
I suspect it's because of the limited space between the two cards preventing airflow for the top card.
Would a PCI slot exhaust fan help this? What else can I do?
RukusProvider
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Smokey said:
Thanks Smokey! At 2560x1600, I'm only going to run 2x AA and will turn down the motion blur. With my 2600k at 4.6 and GTX580 at 920/1840/2150, I should be fine. AA kis what kills.
I flashed my 6950 to a 6970 bios but the card isn't stable. I've decided I'd rather just unlock the shaders and overclock it myself, but I can't seem to be able to flash it back to my backup bios.
The file is bios.rom, but when I try to flash it back with atiwinflash, it gives me "SubsystemIDs mismatch." I tried using the command line instructions use for the 6970 flash to restore back to a 6950 bios, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions?
EDIT: Problem fixed. I just renamed the bios.rom to backup.bin so that it would be recognized.
The file is bios.rom, but when I try to flash it back with atiwinflash, it gives me "SubsystemIDs mismatch." I tried using the command line instructions use for the 6970 flash to restore back to a 6950 bios, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions?
EDIT: Problem fixed. I just renamed the bios.rom to backup.bin so that it would be recognized.
darkblade77
Member
Newegg just approved my replacement RMA for the Maximus IV Gene-Z. I'm not out $170 after all! So happy.
Thank you, PC-GAF, and especially knitoe for encouraging me to go ahead with the RMA despite the circumstances.
Thank you, PC-GAF, and especially knitoe for encouraging me to go ahead with the RMA despite the circumstances.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I went ahead and put my order in. Hoping to get up to a 5.0+ GHz OC when I get things put together just to see if I can get it stable. Dunno what I'll decide to ultimately leave it at.
I just got the Corsair HS1. It's pretty nice... but there's something wrong. Really short samples don't play. Seems like the headphones need a sample of at least a certain length to activate. When it's activated by another sound/music then it plays the other short samples normally, but otherwise, you'll either hear nothing or a vague hint of the sounds. That's kind of extremely ridiculous.
I'm not uploading AV here, I expect everything to be played properly, WTF. There shouldn't be any compression, and certainly no intermittent sound based activation of the headset, it's corded, don't act like you're wireless! Anybody else have this problem?
I'm not uploading AV here, I expect everything to be played properly, WTF. There shouldn't be any compression, and certainly no intermittent sound based activation of the headset, it's corded, don't act like you're wireless! Anybody else have this problem?
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Any idea why I can't get my damn mic to work with Left 4 Dead 2? This is what I have:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FY7LBQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I've made sure to adjust the audio options within the game accordingly, but still no dice.
Is this a common issue with Left 4 Dead 2? If so, is there a commonly overlooked solution?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FY7LBQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I've made sure to adjust the audio options within the game accordingly, but still no dice.
Is this a common issue with Left 4 Dead 2? If so, is there a commonly overlooked solution?
Renoir
Member
i think ive come to the right place.
asus p7hssm pro
i core7 /870
4gb ddr 1333 x2
radeon hd 6870
psu diablotek 600wtt
western digital 160 hdd(will upgrade to ssd later)
fractal design case
i put the machine together. plug it in. power up.
and i get a message from the monitor that its looking for signal.
so i think its a video card issue. so i take out the card, and plug the monitor inot the integrated dvi port. and still no signal.
i go even as far as putting the card back in, and plugin it into the hdmi of my tv. still no signal.
please point me in the right direction gaf.
asus p7hssm pro
i core7 /870
4gb ddr 1333 x2
radeon hd 6870
psu diablotek 600wtt
western digital 160 hdd(will upgrade to ssd later)
fractal design case
i put the machine together. plug it in. power up.
and i get a message from the monitor that its looking for signal.
so i think its a video card issue. so i take out the card, and plug the monitor inot the integrated dvi port. and still no signal.
i go even as far as putting the card back in, and plugin it into the hdmi of my tv. still no signal.
please point me in the right direction gaf.
Do you mean the Asus P7H55-M PRO?Renoir said:
Is the PC actually booting up properly? Have you double-checked all relevant connectors (especially CPU 4/-pin power, and motherboard 24-pin power)? Can you try connecting the video out to another display (TV, additional monitor, projector), to verify if the original monitor may be the cause of the issue?
And the other things I mentioned?
If nothing else, you may need to remove the motherboard, and run only the most basic components to help iron out the source of the problem.
More often than not, that's the case, but why not double-check them if you're troubleshooting? Just a quick unplug and replug. Some cables, or connector heads can be finicky at times, even when things seem properly secured. That's data cables, power, front panel I/O, and so on.Renoir said:
If nothing else, you may need to remove the motherboard, and run only the most basic components to help iron out the source of the problem.
Duxxy3
Member
I ended up getting a sapphire 6950 dual fan instead of the 560ti.
Got it in today and the temps compared to my 470 are fairly large - 25 degrees less in furmark.
Unfortunately because the 6950 doesn't exhause heat out the back it made the rest of my system warmer, particularly the CPU (with stock HSF). It's not getting incredibly hot - it goes over 50 degrees in games. But the fan speed on the HSF has gone up to 6000 rpm's.
So i ordered a coolermaster 212 and it should be in tomorrow.
Got it in today and the temps compared to my 470 are fairly large - 25 degrees less in furmark.
Unfortunately because the 6950 doesn't exhause heat out the back it made the rest of my system warmer, particularly the CPU (with stock HSF). It's not getting incredibly hot - it goes over 50 degrees in games. But the fan speed on the HSF has gone up to 6000 rpm's.
So i ordered a coolermaster 212 and it should be in tomorrow.
Since you are in AUS(right?) I'm not positive on your availability, but a Seasonic 80+Gold, and Corsair AX series are the main top quality ones. There might be a large price premium on those though, I can't tell you.robor said:
Since you have an mATX motherboard you have some smaller case options available, but make sure that BOTH your 212+ and 6970 can fit.
Cheapo doesn't mean anything to me. What is your system price?Parl said:
If you are thinking pure playback an AM3 board + Fusion would be great.
Under 60C in gaming load is fine.Duxxy3 said:
So my girlfriend's laptop has a VGA port that I would like to use to output to my TV, which has HDMI only. I thought this type of cable would work just fine, but the reviews seem to say I need some converter box? Also, would there be any resolution issues? Even though her laptop has generic 'Intel HD Graphics', I didn't think there would be any issues with her computer outputting 720p or 1080p to a TV, but my friend told me that her laptop might be resolution restricted. I'm not trying to run any games on it or anything, just basic internet and some spreadsheet program for her work.
The Big Rig
Member
I'm getting weird purple/white stuttering while playing games when I have crossfire on. Is that common of a defective card?
knitoe said:
So the only way to do this is to buy a $100 VGA to HDMI converter? I'm sure as hell not going to do that, what a joke.
As for the resolution thing, the laptop's specs only say Resolution: 1366 x 768, doesn't seem to say anything about 'max resolution', but I guess it's irrevelent anyways.
razgriz417
Member
Hazaro said:
Great find, decided to go with this instead of the Corsair TX 650M
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Did you recently update your driver? If so, was it doing it before the update? Either way. Either try updating your driver to the newest, or roll back to the previous one if you are already on the newest. Report back.The Big Rig said:
EDIT: Be sure you uninstall the old driver before installing a new one, especially if you are rolling back.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Duxxy3 said:
LOL. I'm going through the same thing as well. BF3 is killing my PC and no other game has come this close!
I am feeling the freaking heat. The fan is loud as fuck and It's hitting 55/60C when other games hit 45C and Idle is 30/35C.
I just adjusted it based on a few pics I saw of other users profiles, and hit apply. The computer didn't explode. How can I tell if I need to up the voltage? What should I up it to?NeoandGeo said:If you can successfully hit that clock with that low of a voltage, then that is insanely good.
I mean, I'm good with computers, but I didn't even know OCing GPUs was a thing.
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