goldlion054
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Meh, he helped but the Bears did most of the work.
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NFL 2011 Week 11 |OT| Blame Rors/Mig/Buckethead For This
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Meh, he helped but the Bears did most of the work.
I think the guy still deserves the benefit of the doubt in being considered top 10, but yeah there's no way anyone can argue him as elite with how extended this period of suckage has gone on. This is just insane.
He really wasn't so terrible today. There was just nothing there.
I thought Rivers was okay. The Matthews fumble and horrible secondary were the real problems.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Not trying to take credit away from Chicago--they played a great game.
But the combination of Rivers/Turner is a comedy of errors.
Is your avatar rubbing off on you? You seem surprisingly pro-Bears today!
Maybe that's easy when we're playing Rivers and the Chargers.
ErasureAcer
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Rivers needs to put on the Wolf Ring and boost his poise. Both INTs he was pressured and really made stupid throws.
Anyhow. Yeah Bears!!!!
Anyhow. Yeah Bears!!!!
Elfforkusu
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Those stats are nice, but they're dependent entirely on his supporting cast. Which includes a future HOF TE, who happens to be hurt this year (and Rivers coincidentally happens to suck this year!)
hindsight is 20/20 on those kind of plays, look stupid when they don't work, look great when they work. with the win, i don't really care. it gives our opposition something to worry about in future games.
i don't know what Raheem Morris was doing in that Packers game calling the 2 onside kicks, seems like he blew the game.
pretty impressed with our offense today, we were great on 3rd down, were able to kill the clock at the end of the game when it counted, and got some good contributions from all our WRs. return game continues to put us in position to score.
7-3 heading to Oakland is looking good, but I think that will be a tough physical game. We're in good position for that 5 seed.
Must have missed second half Cutler beast mode he was straight up balling. He even saved a Chargers td on a mistake he didnt make.
2008 - 65.3% completion percentage, 8.4 avg, 34-11 TD-INT
2009 - 65.2% completion percentage, 8.8 avg, 28-9 TD-INT
2010 - 66.0% completion percentage, 8.7 avg, 30-13 TD-INT
Show me a better QB. I dare you. He was throwing to practice squad scrubs 90% of the 2010 year too. So drop the supporting cast BS.
What exactly are you arguing here? He has a good supporting cast so he can't be a top 5 qb?
Just like the Colts, if they don't get the right GM and coach in place, they could put Buddha himself at QB and it wouldn't matter.
If this doesn't get Spags fired, then nothing will. This is his roster. His coaches. His failure. Whoever gets him would get a great D coordinator
goldlion054
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Ha. Just pretty impressed with the Bears play lately. Defense seems in mid season form and Cutler is playing really well. Not the same team from early in the season
AndresON777
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nice ugly win
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Rivers had no running game to help him in those three years and had a poor receiving core last year as well. He's been miserable this year, but he was really, really good.
MrPink93485
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Look at Chris Johnson smiling, cashing in on that paycheck
I enjoy trashing Bradford as much as the next guy but it doesn't matter who is QB. There is no ability to make an explosive play
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Already said I don't want to take away from the Bears as they played a great game.
Cutler is great.
sf2fanatic
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For now!!!
+Cutler was lights out after the first quarter. Int was not on him.
+Secondary picked it up when they needed to late.
+While Peppers and the front didn't get a sack, I liked the pressure
+Special Teams was great, even with the penalties.
-Forte had a pedestrian game, but got some great 3rd downs late.
-O line gave up a lot of pressure.
-WR's made some drops and other mistakes.
-Secondary gave up a lot of yards early.
+Secondary picked it up when they needed to late.
+While Peppers and the front didn't get a sack, I liked the pressure
+Special Teams was great, even with the penalties.
-Forte had a pedestrian game, but got some great 3rd downs late.
-O line gave up a lot of pressure.
-WR's made some drops and other mistakes.
-Secondary gave up a lot of yards early.
Patriotsbball5460
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Woohoo, 3rd in pick 'em this week, this would make it 3 straight weeks of being in top 3
PS: Go Bears! Looked great today, especially the offense!
PS: Go Bears! Looked great today, especially the offense!
Elfforkusu
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Supposedly this was an argument that he was the best in the game...
He had Gates last year!
Rivers looked like a top #5 QB (right around the #5 slot, behind Peyton, Brady, Brees, Roffles) in '08 and '09. I'll concede that. But best in the league? No way.
Rodgers is the best in the game today and has a great supporting cast...
Also just realized (I think) no sacks on Cutler today. Moreso on Cutler being somewhat elusive and getting the ball out than on the line though.
They did. The fumble was big though.
I always put Rivers behind Peyton, Brady, and Brees in the QB lists, but I do not honestly think they had a better 3 year stretch than him. Brady probably would have, but he missed 08.
And I don't know how having Antonio Gates alone made Rivers look like an all star passing to a bunch of scrubs otherwise.
Patriotsbball5460
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goldlion054
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For sure
Elfforkusu
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Peyton is hurt, Brady isn't what he used to be, and Brees is short. That's the reason people can make the "Rodgers is the best QB!" argument with a straight face. He's not clearly above any of those three.
I should add, Rivers is missing more than Gates this year. Sproles is gone too!
If that doesn't seem like a big deal, take a look at the year by year EPA: http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?year=2009&pos=RB&season=all
TheDarkKnight774
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What's up with Deon's facial hair? a Gray faint goatee
Considering that the packers will win the division barring a big meltdown, root for them to knock the Lions a little.
TheDarkKnight774
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Concede the division, you (like other Wildcard hopefuls) want the lions to lose
What three games will the Packers lose?
Bears are going to win at least 11 games this year, not worried about tiebreakers. But the Bears have these too over almost every other team not named New Orleans.
Chicago is assured. Also one against Detroit. Perhaps the Giants as well.
Edit: I suppose winning the division didn't help at all last year. Getting in will be good enough. I don't know if I have it in me to root for Green Bay, though.
TheDarkKnight774
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That's my feelings as well. Its hard to pull for the Eagles (and they won't win) but a Giants loss would be great for Dallas.
If you think the Packers will lose three games it would take a special kind of retarded to root for them.
So I assume you will root for GB.
Patriotsbball5460
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*looks at tag* *understands*
Even as a Bears fan, I am "rooting" for the Pack, because the division is locked up, time to work to grab the #5 playoff seed
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