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In honor of Final Fantasy's 25th anniversary, GAF Plays: Final Fantasy games
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HiddenWings
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Turns out I'm still pretty good at this game. Who knew?
Two things stand out with this game:
1) The story, while not terribly complicated, is much more substantial than one would expect from a racer.
2) The music, which is trying to be a "best of" for the first 6 games in the series. Here's the intro, which uses the chocobo theme.
I think it's good enough to show off, so I'll be getting to that soon.
This is awesome, thank you!
Aw, man.
Went back to FFIII DS expecting to clear the game finally. After Xande I switched out my Ninja, Magus and Black Belt to Dark Knight, Summoner and Viking respectively in order to take advantage of the Crystal equipment, and to play around with Summons. Managed to take out all four bosses around CoD, and each time I found a Ribbon I switched Dark Knight and Viking back to Ninja and Black Belt. With what I figured would be my final team I went up to CoD and started the battle w/ some new found allies. I made sure to keep my Ninja (Luneth) in the back row because his defense was still rather lacking and I was going to spam Shuriken.
But then he gets taken out by Lightning spam by a Hasted Tentacle before Refia the Devout could party heal. The rest of the battle was me in damage control as CoD wittled away my defenses and one-shotted freshly-revived party members until I was left with only Arc the Summoner. I try desperately to keep him alive but CoD and cohorts continually leave me at critical health by the end of every turn. With no way to revive anyone else to where they can survive one round, I cast one last "F.U.!" Leviathan summon before collapsing in a heap.
I... think I'm done for now.
Yoink!
I think I know what I'm playing next (after I finish The After Years, of course).
Went back to FFIII DS expecting to clear the game finally. After Xande I switched out my Ninja, Magus and Black Belt to Dark Knight, Summoner and Viking respectively in order to take advantage of the Crystal equipment, and to play around with Summons. Managed to take out all four bosses around CoD, and each time I found a Ribbon I switched Dark Knight and Viking back to Ninja and Black Belt. With what I figured would be my final team I went up to CoD and started the battle w/ some new found allies. I made sure to keep my Ninja (Luneth) in the back row because his defense was still rather lacking and I was going to spam Shuriken.
But then he gets taken out by Lightning spam by a Hasted Tentacle before Refia the Devout could party heal. The rest of the battle was me in damage control as CoD wittled away my defenses and one-shotted freshly-revived party members until I was left with only Arc the Summoner. I try desperately to keep him alive but CoD and cohorts continually leave me at critical health by the end of every turn. With no way to revive anyone else to where they can survive one round, I cast one last "F.U.!" Leviathan summon before collapsing in a heap.
I... think I'm done for now.
Yoink!
I think I know what I'm playing next (after I finish The After Years, of course).
And away we go!
Let's do this. I'm fully aware that the jobs and weapons down here won't do me any good (apart from the Eldest Staff), but dammit, there are White Magic spells at the bottom!
Yay! Sage and Ninja! Oh wait.
Sweet, finally got my last spells. WWind is actually pretty useful against the Zande Clones later.
Whoops, missed one.
Back to Sylx Tower!
After a couple runs to collect items and return them to the Fat Chocobo, I'm ready for Zande. Meteo sucks, but eventually he goes down.
The last 4 bosses are all right. 2-Headed Dragon gives me some issues, but as long as you use Life constantly, it's all right. Ahriman gave me some trouble too with his constant party-wide spells, but as long as I kept up the heals, it was all right.
Finally the bastard goes down. Took me awhile, but here's the battle order:
Turn 1: Haste on all w/ Bahamut with Conjurer...everyone else attack
Turn 2: Attack with Thief/Monk, Elixir on Monk with Conjurer, Cure4 on Thief with Shaman
Turn 3: Attack with Thief/Monk, Elixir on Shaman with Conjurer, Cure4 on Conjurer with Shaman
Turn 4: Repeat turns 2 and 3 ad nauseum.
Not the most exciting final battle, but it's good to know that a Four Job Fiesta is at least possible. Other than the Giant Rat, it wasn't that much of a pain in the ass!
Let's do this. I'm fully aware that the jobs and weapons down here won't do me any good (apart from the Eldest Staff), but dammit, there are White Magic spells at the bottom!
Yay! Sage and Ninja! Oh wait.
Sweet, finally got my last spells. WWind is actually pretty useful against the Zande Clones later.
Whoops, missed one.
Back to Sylx Tower!
After a couple runs to collect items and return them to the Fat Chocobo, I'm ready for Zande. Meteo sucks, but eventually he goes down.
The last 4 bosses are all right. 2-Headed Dragon gives me some issues, but as long as you use Life constantly, it's all right. Ahriman gave me some trouble too with his constant party-wide spells, but as long as I kept up the heals, it was all right.
Finally the bastard goes down. Took me awhile, but here's the battle order:
Turn 1: Haste on all w/ Bahamut with Conjurer...everyone else attack
Turn 2: Attack with Thief/Monk, Elixir on Monk with Conjurer, Cure4 on Thief with Shaman
Turn 3: Attack with Thief/Monk, Elixir on Shaman with Conjurer, Cure4 on Conjurer with Shaman
Turn 4: Repeat turns 2 and 3 ad nauseum.
Not the most exciting final battle, but it's good to know that a Four Job Fiesta is at least possible. Other than the Giant Rat, it wasn't that much of a pain in the ass!
Red Scarlet
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Wow, good job. I always have a really tough time with Dark Cloud with 2 Ninjas and 2 of the ubermage or whatever.
Thanks!
I did spend some time leveling in Bahamut's Cave before I went to get my last job, but after that (lv 48 or so?) it was all right. I knew that Dark Cloud would be doing 1500-2200 to each character, so getting at least 2x that was my priority.
EDIT: Holy shit, welcome back?
You should go watch Star Wars and then go play them.
Red Scarlet
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They both have a II in their name.
I don't think xii is excesively star wars ish.
Any 2 and 12, they both a tower you climb near the end where someone dies. I also think Josef looks alot like that bald ex judge who climbs the tower with you.
Red Scarlet
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12 is definitely more Star Wars-ish than 2, I'd think. Yeah you're a group of rebels fighting an emperor, but that's about it (would the Warship be the 'Death Star' or would the tornado?). FF6 has a rebellion and emperor too. I'm trying to remember what's all Star-Warsy in 12, probably in the storyline stuff I guess.
Hmm, but i wasnt comparing star wars.
Also Darknight /Leonheart and Gabranth are no 2 enemies that turn to your side for the final battle.
Which one of them has The Emperor thrown off a cliff by his subordinate?
Professor Beef
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FF6
Sabin ends up near a house with a crazy geezer inside. He recruits Shadow to ease his journey.
He reaches an imperial camp. They are trying to invade Doma.
But Doma has a master tactician in his ranks, Cyan Garamonde. Thanks to his plan and his oversized sword, the imperial troops flee.
The general at charge of the operation has to return to the imperial capital. He's a really nice guy.
Kefka has his own evil plans...
Sabin and Shadow try to stop him, but they are delayed by some soldiers, and Kefka manages to poison the river. This is an interesting poison, it goes countercurrent.
Kefka's evil plan works and everyone dies except Cyan and a sentry. I wonder why they didn't drink and the others could.
Cyan wents berserk and attacks the imperial troops. He and Sabin join and escape the camp with some nice toys.
Their next stop is a mysterious forest...
...with a mysterious train. When they want to exit, it's too late.
They are surrounded by ghosts, but they manage to escape and rid themselves of them.
The reward for all their troubles is a dinner, and an earring. Female party member 2 is going to be happy when I give it to her. This makes me think that all party members share a hyperdimensional bag where they can borrow things others have taken.
The legendary Siegfried appears, attacks, gets blocked and a dog beats him. The reward for beating him is a cherry and he steals the content of the chest.
And they finally go to settle things directly with the train. As an undead, it dies with a single phoenix down.
Our heroes have to cross some falls if they want to go to Narshe., and they jump.
As in all places they go, monsters appear.
Luckily, they survive, and another character appears.
Before they can recruit him, they go to Mobliz to buy his favourite food. And thank to it, they catch him.
Before going to the Serpent Trench, Gau learns the Stray Cat rage. Everyone says that it's pretty good. In the trench, they discover a cave with a chest that contains a green beret (increases the HP).
After their submarine adventures, they reach a town where they can go directly to South Figaro.
Talking about South Figaro, that's where the next chapter takes place, Locke's adventures.
I'd say the one you like less.
Mission: Escape South Figaro and go to Narshe. The first step is stealing some clothes. No one dares to call Locke a thief.
Thanks to Locke's adventuring skills, he can go to another zone of the town. Now it's the time to get a new outfit.
This step is like the last, but in another situation.
And after a series of events, we can go to the town's mansion. Clocks in this game are pretty generous.
The secret passage we are looking for is in a wall behind a bookcase where the wind blows. In the mansion basement, we find a former imperial general, Celes Chere.
Locke escapes with her after crossing a series of passages.
In the cave between South Figaro and the Narshe area, they find a killer robot. Thanks to Rune, the powerful magic attacks don't connect and Locke can kill it fast thanks to the Genji Glove.
Red Scarlet
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Find someone to play it 2-player with. I had fun doing that with Aeana. I'd offer but I've got that on backlog to play 4-6 with someone else.
That'd be an option too, I guess. Other than locally playing on my SNES, I'd think the easiest way to do it would be over the network emulation, like ZSNES?
I was starting up the PSP version, but I'll see if I go this route.
HiddenWings
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Chocobo Racing, Chapter 1
The story is divided into chapters, and I think I'll refrain from commentary on the story sections, instead reserving commentary for mechanics and music.
The soundtrack is mostly character themes and track themes, borrowed from previous Final Fantasies. Because I'm not superhuman, I do have to look some of them up to say which one. Almost everything else (menu themes, opening/ending themes) is some variant of the Chocobo theme.
Anyway, the story. Cid's theme is Cid's theme from FF4. Chocobo's theme is... the chocobo theme.
The first chapter is just a time trial on the game's first track. (Music: Chocobo Theme) There's not yet much point to the character & ability selection screens. Not that it matters, as Dash is one of the game's best abilities anyway.
You can get a starting line boost by pressing square as the word Go appears. Not much else to see here.
Chapter End.
The story is divided into chapters, and I think I'll refrain from commentary on the story sections, instead reserving commentary for mechanics and music.
The soundtrack is mostly character themes and track themes, borrowed from previous Final Fantasies. Because I'm not superhuman, I do have to look some of them up to say which one. Almost everything else (menu themes, opening/ending themes) is some variant of the Chocobo theme.
Anyway, the story. Cid's theme is Cid's theme from FF4. Chocobo's theme is... the chocobo theme.
The first chapter is just a time trial on the game's first track. (Music: Chocobo Theme) There's not yet much point to the character & ability selection screens. Not that it matters, as Dash is one of the game's best abilities anyway.
You can get a starting line boost by pressing square as the word Go appears. Not much else to see here.
Chapter End.
That's right, Return of the Jedi.
HiddenWings
Member
Chocobo Racing, Chapter 2
Mog's theme is based on the moogle theme from FF5. The track uses unused music from FF6.
Chapter two is the first race you can actually lose. If you don't beat Mog, you have to retry. It also introduces the first item, which is "haste". As you might expect, it makes you go faster. You can hold three magic stones at once, and they are used in a last in, first out manner. Collecting multiple stones of the same type (usually) increases the effect, for haste this just means lasting a lot longer.
Plot appears, and chapter end.
Mog's theme is based on the moogle theme from FF5. The track uses unused music from FF6.
Chapter two is the first race you can actually lose. If you don't beat Mog, you have to retry. It also introduces the first item, which is "haste". As you might expect, it makes you go faster. You can hold three magic stones at once, and they are used in a last in, first out manner. Collecting multiple stones of the same type (usually) increases the effect, for haste this just means lasting a lot longer.
Plot appears, and chapter end.
Does "old-fashioned" include waiting 12 hours for a group to go kill the archlich?
Waay back in the day I bought chocobo racing for super cheap as a secret santa gift, but I never got to play it myself. It looks like a really great game actually, and I really like the music remixes in the game. Seems they really took the original material and really tweeked it in the right places to be faithful to the original while letting it be something different (Cids theme sounds alot like Super Mario RPG). I say that I guess because I don't really like the way they remix alot of the old music, especially like in crisis core.
Anyway, too bad I never played Chocobo racing. It looks great!
Anyway, too bad I never played Chocobo racing. It looks great!
Touche.
I was thinking just something other than FoV -> lesser colibri with maybe a lucky SMNburn, but apparently all of -those- are outdated and the new hotness is being a chest slave in Abyssea. Showing the thread that wonderful spark of discovery,
Korroloka after a terrible time in the Dunes.
HiddenWings
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Chocobo Racing: Chapter 3
Golem's theme is one of my favorite pieces from this game, and it's based on FF2's Ancient Castle. The ruins course is the first piece mixed into unrecognizability, but it's FF3's boss battle theme.
Once you finish a racer's chapter, you can use them against future opponents. Mog's ability, Flap, lets you fly, ignoring track conditions and ice. (There are characters that can do this all the time.) Not mentioned in the manual is that it also lets you fly over fireballs.
Speaking of which, chapter three introduces a new magic stone: Fire. Picking up one stone shoots a fireball straight, it stops if it hits a wall. 2 fires a larger fireball that homes in on the closest racer ahead of you. 3 fires a giant fireball that hits everyone in front of you. All of these are useless if you're in first place. Golem is a better racer than Mog, so this is quite a bit closer.
Starting to form a party, and Chapter End.
Golem's theme is one of my favorite pieces from this game, and it's based on FF2's Ancient Castle. The ruins course is the first piece mixed into unrecognizability, but it's FF3's boss battle theme.
Once you finish a racer's chapter, you can use them against future opponents. Mog's ability, Flap, lets you fly, ignoring track conditions and ice. (There are characters that can do this all the time.) Not mentioned in the manual is that it also lets you fly over fireballs.
Speaking of which, chapter three introduces a new magic stone: Fire. Picking up one stone shoots a fireball straight, it stops if it hits a wall. 2 fires a larger fireball that homes in on the closest racer ahead of you. 3 fires a giant fireball that hits everyone in front of you. All of these are useless if you're in first place. Golem is a better racer than Mog, so this is quite a bit closer.
Starting to form a party, and Chapter End.
If FFX-2 had been a Traditional FF game, the three guys would've joined the party and that would have DEFINITELY made the game far more popular. Even if only ONE guy joined, it would've shut the "Hurr I ain't playing no gay girl dressup game" guys up.
Actually, the going to Narshe is easy.
BANON and his cohorts aren't welcome in this town, so they have to find an alternative route.
The party reunites with a couple of recruitments. We have to defend the Esper from the Empire.
The groups are:
-Main group: Celes, Edgar and Sabin. Powerful attacks and Runic to deal with Kefka's magics.
-Secondary group: Terra, Locke and Cyan. It has a Cure user!
-Gau: I know Gau can be good, but I don't like uncontrollable characters.
Anecdotes: Those soldiers ganged on poor Locke, and that's the main group fighting the last of Kefka's minions.
Kefka can't do anything with Ice2 thanks to Runic. Peace Ring, oh the irony!
We can investigate the Esper now. Terra contacts with it and she transforms into an extrange being.
Let's find her! I don't like Locke very much, but I use him so he has a decent level for the mandatory parts with him (and he can steal).
Man, reading through this thread has almost single-handedly rekindled my interest in games. I'm almost done with FF7 and I think I'm going to start IV again. I've never beat it though.
I really wish I could play the PSP version but mine died a long time ago. Is it worth playing the Advance version even if there are bugs?
I really wish I could play the PSP version but mine died a long time ago. Is it worth playing the Advance version even if there are bugs?
Yes. The bugs are not that bad.
The bugs are bad in and of themselves, but if you're playing a SNES FF for gameplay and it's not 5 you're already far worse off than the difference between versions matters.
I would not play the advance version. The ATB bugs are random--some people see few, some people see a ton, and it can ruin the experience.
I'd really try for the far superior PSP version, or the DS version (which is much, much harder).
I'm playing IV complete on Vita at the moment for the first time. I'm enjoying it so far (4 hours in), but I've found it a little harder than I was expecting (I was expecting a complete walk-over, which is what I've seen it described as multiple times). It looks fantastic on the OLED screen and the main character seems to be the most interesting in an FF game I've played since FFVIII.
I'm just annoyed that FFVI isn't up in the Aus PSN store, yet FFV is which is just too archaic in its current form for me to really enjoy. That and Crisis Core need to go up on PSN
I'm just annoyed that FFVI isn't up in the Aus PSN store, yet FFV is which is just too archaic in its current form for me to really enjoy. That and Crisis Core need to go up on PSN
HiddenWings
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Chocobo Racing, Chapter 4
Goblin uses the pirate theme from FF5, which is quite fitting. His track uses Mount Gulg from FF1, which is a bit odd, since the volcano itself made it in as a track (although renamed in the English version).
Thanks to the rather obvious shortcut on this course, it's pretty easy. Ice puts a patch of ice on the track, lots of patches of ice on the track, or makes everyone lose control and explode when they hit a wall. (No, I don't know how that makes sense.) Blizzaga is one of the best attack moves in the game, but doesn't stop opponents immediately; It's possible to cross the finish line while the attack is occurring.
Tactics for this one worth mentioning: Use any and all magic stones as soon as you get them, or Goblin will use his ability (mug) to take one from you. This makes fire even less useful than usual.
If this were a normal FF game, this would be a full party. Chapter End.
Goblin uses the pirate theme from FF5, which is quite fitting. His track uses Mount Gulg from FF1, which is a bit odd, since the volcano itself made it in as a track (although renamed in the English version).
Thanks to the rather obvious shortcut on this course, it's pretty easy. Ice puts a patch of ice on the track, lots of patches of ice on the track, or makes everyone lose control and explode when they hit a wall. (No, I don't know how that makes sense.) Blizzaga is one of the best attack moves in the game, but doesn't stop opponents immediately; It's possible to cross the finish line while the attack is occurring.
Tactics for this one worth mentioning: Use any and all magic stones as soon as you get them, or Goblin will use his ability (mug) to take one from you. This makes fire even less useful than usual.
If this were a normal FF game, this would be a full party. Chapter End.
I took this to heart and looked for my old, busted fat PSP..and found it! I still have to turn it on with a knife because the switch broke, but it works fine otherwise, so I bought the PSP version of FFIV on PSN. It looks so good
Man, playing through FFIV, and even with how pretty the PSP version looks, it's still as boring as ever. Just got to the Tower of Zot, and the dungeon before it with the Dark Elf is usually where I start to feign interest.
Onward!
(just installed a screenshot tool finally, will post them later)
Onward!
(just installed a screenshot tool finally, will post them later)
HiddenWings
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Chocobo Racing, Chapter 5:
In which great ideas are had. In addition to the Character theme (Mysidia, FF4) and track theme (Mysidian Tower, FF2), this chapter is the first appearance of the "spooky" theme which is the intro to the FF3 Final boss theme. Stay tuned for the rest of that one later.
Tactics notes: Lightning is the new one here. It ranges from easy-to-avoid bolt to "instant clusters of lightning on everyone". This is the element you want to use to stop opponents without any sort of delay.
Unfortunately, this chapter introduces the black magician's ability: Magic Plus. This ability automatically upgrades a carried magic stone, as long as the user doesn't have 3 already. In order to not get murdered by this, the best choice is Goblin's ability, Mug (as Goblin, so you don't get mugged yourself).
Not a surprise, and Chapter End.
In which great ideas are had. In addition to the Character theme (Mysidia, FF4) and track theme (Mysidian Tower, FF2), this chapter is the first appearance of the "spooky" theme which is the intro to the FF3 Final boss theme. Stay tuned for the rest of that one later.
Tactics notes: Lightning is the new one here. It ranges from easy-to-avoid bolt to "instant clusters of lightning on everyone". This is the element you want to use to stop opponents without any sort of delay.
Unfortunately, this chapter introduces the black magician's ability: Magic Plus. This ability automatically upgrades a carried magic stone, as long as the user doesn't have 3 already. In order to not get murdered by this, the best choice is Goblin's ability, Mug (as Goblin, so you don't get mugged yourself).
Not a surprise, and Chapter End.
We need to use Figaro Castle to follow Terra. There is a pretty good item in there and a little of backstory.
We all live in a yellow submarine
yellow submarine, yellow submarine
we all live in a yellow submarine
yellow submarine, yellow submarine
And more backstory at the other side of the desert.
But we're interested in Terra right now, so we follow a series of clues that lead us to...
Zozo. Thanks to the gentle inhabitants of this city and their clues, we can get a chainsaw for Edgar.
What happened to that woman? The pavement doesn't end before reaching the building, suspicious...
Locke, you are a meanie...
Another polite person, well, another liar. This boss, mmmmmmm... he uses potions in the battle, summons iron knuckles and Locke can get a Sneak Ring.
Our characters meet the Espers. Just when they thought this game was following FF4 steps in the ability growth system, they get some magicites.
Our next mission is to save the Espers in Vector. And the chosen ones are the same people as before. Good luck, everyone.
Back at Jidoor, a happy coincidence happens and the party thinks it's their chance.
The plan takes place in the Opera House, and not only Celes sings well, but she has the same timbre as Maria. Maybe they're sisters. The octopus of the last time wants to foil the plan, even if he only knows half the party.
The final preparations take place. Break a leg, "Maria"!
♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫
The show goes on. Ultros, as a good villain tries to use the old trick of the weight.
The party tries to stop him, but they end falling. "You were almost a Celes sandwich!"
Nothing will stop this from being a success! A battle against Ultros starts. I think he can do Imp (Kappa), but he didn't, so I'm not sure.
And the last part of the plan starts as Setzer appears and kidnaps Celes/Maria. After some Celes tricks the party manages to convince Setzer to carry them to Vector.
That thing that Setzer says... I think Selphie says it too, but I'm not sure. Let's storm the Empire capital!
There are people trying to trick the characters everywhere, but also comrades.
Magitek Factory: The enemies in here are resistant to physical attacks. But thanks to Edgar, Sabin and those nice elemental weapons unleashes, I don't have to use MP.
Boss Battle, Ifrit
Another boss battle, Hein wannabe: He changes barrier, but who cares when one can use powerful non-elemental attacks?
Finally, our loved characters reach the Esper containment zone, but Kefka appears, Celes saves them and blah, blah, blah...
Extreme escape adventure, mine cart edition.
After a few battle against some mobs, the boss appears. The secret is to kill the blades, so they don't overwhelm our lovely characters.
The escape isn't finished. And another boss, the right crane is weak to thunder damage, so we'll take it out as soon as possible.
It's time to see Terra. We discover that she was product of a pregnancy dance between Madonna and Maduin.
More adventures in the next chapter!
Too many new games I guess. XIII-2 kept a lot of people busy a month ago and now it's probably Tales of Graces and Mass Effect 3. At least for me its Graces. I'm still reading along, though.
PS1 or PSP.
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