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Japanese developers' reaction to the PS3: meh
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This is a huge exaggeration and you know it. Sega, LucasArts, Namco, Capcom, Square, Activision and EA all have million sellers on the GC, and if you count the GBA and DS as well you can add THQ, Konami, Vivendi, Atari and Bandai to the list as well.jett said:
And it's not like a game has to be a million seller to avoid being a bomb to begin with.
Lol drama. :lolkpop100 said:
Property of Jumpship
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jarrod said:
Is this just about installed base and production costs? Because I see developers having to limit their creativity, something the best developers will not be willing to do. See Kojima and Ikagaki. I'm in no way saying the DS is a bad platform, but just limited.
DreamMachine
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DenogginizerOS said:This to me is where the PS3 is still the strongest overall. And as I have stated, software is what matters most. As a matter of fact, Kojima recently stated that he thought the PS3 will be the system to have come 2007 and 2008 because of the strong lineup (his game included)
oh rly.. the other day I heard kojima pimping the xbox 360 is going to be the console to own in 2007.
lmao seriously why would he say anything else other wise? of course he is gonna say that his game is ps3 exclusive.
SolidSnakex
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jarrod said:Interesting enough, Kojima and Itagaki are both making DS games.
Don't confuse Kojima with Kojima Productions. Kojima is currently making 1 game and that's MGS4.
Kurosaki Ichigo
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3rds are doomed if they have to rely on actual DS 3rd party sales.jarrod said:
I'd say PS2 is still the best bet right now.
Attack You
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I'm usually not the type for doom and gloom, but has anyone taken into consideration that the PS3 is coming into a Japanese console development community that has weakened considerably since the PS2's debut? PS3 development is supposed to cost more and require more effort, but from developers that buckled under mostly PS2 development? I don't know what to think here. If we were looking at the same Japan that was around at the tail-end of PS1, I wouldn't have any doubts about the PS3's software offering.
SolidSnakex
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jarrod said:
He's never made any of the Boktai games. Nakamura is the guy behind Boktai (and Lunar Knights). And neither ZOE or AC!D were his games (or even ideas).
SolidSnakex
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He might have a little more to do with it than those, but its Nakamura's game. In the case of AC!D, that was Nojiri's idea and Kojima just approved it, and ZOE was Okamura's dream project. But this is the real guy behind Boktai
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/english/prof/08_nakamura.html
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/english/prof/08_nakamura.html
Dragona Akehi
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict imminent doom for this thread.
I mean it's not like this has ever happened before in a PS3 doom 'n' gloom thread.
I mean it's not like this has ever happened before in a PS3 doom 'n' gloom thread.
JoshuaJSlone
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DenogginizerOS said:
I'd say that's more about most third-parties putting second-tier efforts on a console with a fraction of the userbase rather than something inherent in the names Sony and Nintendo (or Microsoft).jett said:
I think we'll probably see the Japanese market shrink further. PS3 will be the system people want but they won't be able to get. Wii won't be able to step into the void because it's technically limited. I don't think the DS' success is going to translate to a console anymore than the GBA's success translated for Gamecube. X360 is already dead in Japan.
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jarrod said:Interesting enough, Kojima and Itagaki are both making DS games.
I didnt know that. That is interesting considering Itagaki's comments about only using the most powerful system.
Only for Sony (and maybe MS)...Fatghost28 said:
PS2 > PS3
Xbox > 360
DS >> GBA
Wii >>> GC
...I still think PS3 has the best chance at being the market leading JP console, but there's no question it's not going to move what PS2 did. At the same time, it seems almost as unquestionable that Nintendo's on track to outdo both their last gen machines.
That sort of PR only sprang up to justify his Xbox allegiance. Otherwise why'd he favor Saturn over PlayStation or 360 over PS3?Property of Jumpship said:
MiamiWesker
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jon61586 said:
I've been wondering the same as well, anyone got info?
There's a Japanese market for the PS3? From every sales list I see over there, gamers are more excited about DS games than PSP ones. I really don't think the "OMG I NEEDZ THE MOST PWRFUL MACHINE EVAR TO HAVE FUN" market exists there anymore. Its more of a western thing IMO.Mandoric said:
Here's the thing, if the PS3 doesn't do extremely well in Japan, then Japanese centric developers and studios are going to have a VERY tough time. They're going to have to hope that people are willing to buy 3rd party games on a Nintendo platform in higher numbers than before, or they're going to have to embrace the Western market a lot more than they have up to this point. Capcom has already done this and been rewarded handsomely for it, the question becomes will Square-Enix, Konami, and Namco follow suit, and will they be able to?
To be honest, things are looking pretty grim for the traditional japanese developers.
To be honest, things are looking pretty grim for the traditional japanese developers.
jarrod said:Get ready to find a new hobby... unless you like bald space marines by chance?
Hey! I want a bald space marine in SSB:B!
The bulk of interesting RPGs and action games (IMO interesting) seem to be coming out for DS. Develpers are on the DS bandwagon. (And the PS2 is looking great as well).
If I was a developer/producer I would probably focus my attention on the DS and PS2 for the next year. Then see what develops sales-wise for the three home consoles and concentrate on the platform with strong market presence and has the demographic to potentially sell my product.
Rhage Furi
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Doesn't vibes like this tell Sony something if Japanese developers and consumers are rapidly losing confidence in the PS3. I mean even X360 was ahead of the PS3 one time on a poll for a short time and if that doesn't scare you, nothing will. They better make some changes or they could find themselves in dead last. Now I am dreading the price of the accessories and the games.
SolidSnakex
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Terrell said:
I'm not saying he wasn't involved, but it wasn't his game it's Nakamura's game. He also produced ZOE2, but Murata gets the credit for that and rightfully so.
Mr Nash said:
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Property of Jumpship
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:lol :lol :lol
Is that even real? Or just a joke. Either way it's fuggin' hilarious.
Is that even real? Or just a joke. Either way it's fuggin' hilarious.
SolidSnakex
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WULFER said:
It's UBI Soft you shouldn't need a link. The new Splinter Cell hasn't been announced for the PS3 yet also. But do you think there's really any chance that it won't be on the system?
SolidSnakex
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No whats weak is you implying Sony is losing exclusives when said game was never even an exclusive to the system.
WULFER said:
uh what... did you miss the leaked Ubisoft release list which had Assassin's Creed for every single system under the sun?
because yeah that's why only idiots believed it was exclusive. There was no mass SDF defense of that; it has ALWAYS been the truth.
* Assassin (PS3, Xbox 360, Rev, PC, PSP) - March 2007
SolidSnakex
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WULFER said:
It's time exclusive possibly, but that still means it'll eventually be multiplatform. That's how its always been.
Wulfer
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Notice I said have us beleive I worded that statement that way for a reason.. hmmmmm
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100052&highlight=Assasins+Creed
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100052&highlight=Assasins+Creed
Illuminati
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Red Steel?jarrod said:
SolidSnakex
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jarrod said:
Is there some kind of rule that they can't publish it on the PS3 or something? If not I don't see why it wouldn't be. Red Steel seems to be the only definite complete exclusive otherwise.