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Halo 4 development is complete + New Screens (Spoiler)
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Windom Earle
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Thanks for giving the definition of a bullshot again. Good to have this out of the way. And I still need to see ingame shots that show this definition of lighting. The shots in the op are bland compared to the old footage lighting wise. Just look at the reflections on the armor. There were more of those ridiculous gifs in the old thread. For example the master chief in a vehicle, can't find it now. Same applies for AA and DOF obviously. So yes, those shots were misleading.
Maybe also performance? Looking forward to the Xbox720 Halo with ingame DOF. I am not juding the game just on the DOF, I am just disappointed that people do not mind the devs releasing the typical Halo bullshots long before release and the final game looking much worse.
I am talking about Crysis1 on PC of course.
How do you know? What AA method is it using? How good/demanding is MLAA on 360 at this point? Otherwise I suspect FXAA.
Don't confuse texture resolution with AF. However, it's probably an odd exception or the textures were not fully loaded yet.
Wait, you already said Halo 4 is the best looking Halo, by far. So you agree it does look *that* much better?
Muffdraul
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It doesn't "put Bungie Halo to shame" or whatever shit people are talking, was my point.
I just edited "by far" to "undeniably" to make it less self-contradictory and DEPRish.
I'm sure you've been judging screenshots long enough to know that developers tend to over-exaggerate DOF to make them look good. That's basically what they've done, although I don't see anything unique or spectacular with the DOF alone since its just a simple gaussian blur, no real bokeh effects at play here. And to be fair, those early in-game shots didn't imply gameplay shots, so it's not like they're misleading anyone there. Is the engine capable of such DOF effect? Yes. But we only get to see them in cutscenes.
plagiarize
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whoah there pickle i never said i thought any of the Halo games looked bad. i just think 343 are doing technically more impressive graphics for the time than Bungie did in their time. that's all. i've always liked the way Halo games looked but they've never wowed me before on a technical level as Halo 4 does. Halo 3's lighting was amazing, but the concessions made to pull it off were obvious to anyone. personally i always thought it was worth it mind, but the game definately suffered in areas to pull it off.
Hypertrooper
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Yes. It is even mentioned in the description that those screens are from the 4th mission?By the way, just noticed there was a subtitle on Waypoint for the screenshots labeling them "Infinity"
So that would make this the Fourth Level based on the achievements (this follows Forerunner the one shown to the press).
Muffdraul
Member
Well, OK then. *unclenches fists*
Don't read too much into it or let those words get to you. But you should realize that when people make sweeping statements like that, it's a testament to how much of a drastic visual improvement 343's work is, enough for them to get excited by it even. And I'm inclined to agree.
Actually, most of this forum thinks it's going to like like the screenshots, anti aliased and all. They also think that FXAA is equivalent to super sampling.
I wish people would post direct capture from the uncompressed videos Microsoft has released instead of these bullshots. It's not like there isn't actual 720p gameplay footage to look at but it never gets posted in these threads except in the form of minature gifs.
Hypertrooper
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Muffdraul
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Hey, I'm able to praise 343i's Halo 4 work without putting Bungie down. I set the example.
Also, Bungie is mai waifu. We got married in 1995 after I finished Marathon.
Speaking too the wall here I see... I will shut up
plagiarize
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they all look like ED209s to me. which i'm sure someone else will tell me was a rip off of something else.
Demoncarnotaur
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Its seriously insane what 343 has pulled off with Halo 4.. it really is rocking some stellar art direction on top of some great looking engine improvements. This game looks really fresh despite its familiarity, and I like that. November 6th can't come soon enough.
Anyways, the new renders:
Anyways, the new renders:
timetokill
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Need Forge info so bad 
Windom Earle
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They didn't? Then why did so many people would think the final game would have this level of IQ and lighting? That's what I call misleading and the Halo franchise has a sad history of this. (Pre Halo 3 CG...) In 2012 only AA increase should be allowed in pre release screenshots...
There is no opinion involved here. And Eurogamer also says that the final game looks worse, and they maybe actually played it.
plagiarize
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gameplay is just the parts you are in control of. that shot was obviously not from gameplay since it was seeing Chef (*sic*) from a third person perspective. the lighting in the final game is to my eyes equally impressive, and in motion the game has really good IQ for a game based on the videos i've seen.
yeah, clearly it won't have the IQ that screenshot had, but the final game does have fantastic lighting, great IQ and your beloved depth of field effects.
No, they didn't. It was the author "opinion". Just like I say that ACIII doesn't look as good as the screenshots released so far. See, an opinion.
Either way, technical stuff aside the game looks great.
What pre Halo 3 CG? That early e3 teaser/demo running on a 360 dev kit? All the game screenshots released for 4 should be recreatable in the theatre mode.
Windom Earle
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If the ingame cutscenes come close to it, I guess we can be happy. Gameplay footage is relatively far from it. If the game ends up with good IQ and a smooth framerate we all can be happy.
Gundam style!
Baconsammy
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Excellent trolling. You'll last long here.
Demoncarnotaur
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The Press Site has been updated with most of this weeks and last weeks pics at HUGE sizes.
That detail.
And other, including IGN, have said it looks as good as the pics. Obviously its not going to look as perfect as the pictures, but the I have seen the game in motion via videos (e3, etc) and it looks fucking fantastic.
That detail.
And other, including IGN, have said it looks as good as the pics. Obviously its not going to look as perfect as the pictures, but the I have seen the game in motion via videos (e3, etc) and it looks fucking fantastic.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Mobile Suit MasterChief.
Hiro_Kunimi_80
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H4 ready for a 4K port @ XboxNext release day
shinobi602
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I said DAYUM.
Ok, that's offensive and needs to be removed.
Vire
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giancarlo123x
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Liquidsnake
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Hype +10. I lost a lot of faith in Bungie after Halo 2. I knew they were not the same company.
Need Forge info so bad
Ya. All this SP and MP goodness is not great for ForgeGAF.
Syphon Filter
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Doesn't look good to me. I always got really hyped with Halo games and i am not getting that vibe at all .There's just something about Bungie man.
shinobi602
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Lol, where do you jokers come from?
There is a special Bungie magic. But I've reached the point where I've accepted that Bungie is working on something super new and amazing and magical while at the very same time this different Halo can be awesome too.
Be hyped for Destiny and enjoy Halo 4 all the same.
The One Who Knocks
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Although I admit that I am not big fan of what seems to have been altered with regards to the multiplayer mode, most things that are coming out regarding the campaign fills me with confidence that even if I do not enjoy the multiplayer, the campaign will be more than worth the price of the game. Even still, I may hold off until there is much more detailed impressions of the game but I hope, to a very large extent, that the campaign at least will be as good as it appears to be (although I will admit that I haven't watched any detailed [10+ minutes] gameplay videos after news started surfacing about the multiplayer mode but the small amount I've seen, and the plethora of images are a source of great hope).