Senor Kami
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They would be total and complete idiots to shrug off Black Friday. The sales on that weekend usually rival multiple months of sales, not counting November and December.
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Rumour: Xbone release in December?
- Thread starter dragonbane
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Aquamarine
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It should be obvious that Microsoft is gearing up to launch the XBONE alongside the PS4.
It makes much more sense to launch your system in mid-November, so you have the entire holiday season in December to advertise your product, rather than in mid-December, where a lot of families have already purchased Christmas presents.
And of course, we have loads of precedent. Every single major home console since the PS2 has launched in November.
That's Xbox, GameCube, Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, and the Wii U--every single one mid-November.
Until we find evidence to the contrary (and the OPs link isn't enough) then we must assume the consoles will launch in November in the USA.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Late november
BrokenEchelon
Banned
Usually November and December for Thanksgiving and Christmas, but Hoilday in the advertising world just means "it'll be a candidate for a Christmas gift" which in turn translates to "you'll be able to buy it in November when everyone does their Christmas shopping"
Crazymoogle
Member
History shows that both companies will ship mid November - probably on the same day - with whatever they've got, and demand will vastly outweigh supply. There's just no chance Sony has enough to ship earlier and they would both rather ship November even if that means having only a paper launch in some parts of the world.
Usually November and December. When people in the US say, "The Holidays" they usually are refering to Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years.
I'd say mid-November is what both are targeting.
PS1 - September
PS2 - October
PS3 - November
PS4 - ?
Aquamarine
Member
I hope you're not being serious with that purely coincidential minutiae.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Then thread ends for me
I wasn't seriously trying to establish a pattern deducing that the PS4 will launch in december, if that's what you were thinking (I was doing that jokingly, though). Rather, I was refuting the idea that you could use history to show that Sony will launch in November.
With that said, November's still the most likely for both.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
And here in the UK we know this is a fact because of the advert during the Champions League Final last night.
Going with that, the release here should be 5th November or earlier. Pretty stupid advertising both together if one isn't there on the 5th!
Rebel Leader
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Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They are both going to come out in November.
dragonbane
Member
Thanks. So no surprise launch from MS or Sony. At the most 1 month apart probably.
But realistically both around November.
IHaveCandy
Banned
I thought they did. It needs to be better if its trying to make your cable box better, you can see the video clearly on a cable box when you're in the guide.
dragonbane
Member
Also navigating the guide with voice commands doesn't work as smoothly as during the conference. Pretty obvious it was staged at this point...
Aquamarine
Member
The PS3 was the first home console from Sony that actually launched alongside another console.
5th gen:
SS - May 1995
PS1 - September 1995
N64 - September 1996
6th gen:
DC - September 1999
PS2 - October 2000
GC - November 2001
XBOX - November 2001
7th gen:
360 - November 2005
PS3 - November 2006
Wii - November 2006
8th gen:
Wii U - November 2012
PS4 - November 2013
XBONE - November 2013
The launch of each system is highly circumstantial. Given that the PS4 will launch in an environment where it will be DIRECTLY competing with the launch of the XBONE (Holiday 2013). I don't see how any other kind of release than a PS3-situation is feasible for Sony.
You can't prove that "history is useless" regarding these situations. The PS3 was just the first of Sony's consoles to be specifically targeted for the holiday season + competing with another console, so the release schedule of the PS3 is all that we can really use to gauge future decisions by Sony.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Yep. Xbox One and PS4 will launch in Nov. Probably the same weekend. They are in cahoots together.
Very good point.
Fair enough. It'll be interesting to see how both companies play this.
Ninja Moomin
Banned
Last night Xbox one was shown on UK tv, with COD ghosts, with the COD release date.
ergo... it is out with or before COD in November.
dragonbane
Member
Good point.
gamemadmax
Member
PR video.
gutter_trash
Banned
I will go out on a limb a say October for PS4
DidntKnowJack
Member
I don't think they're ready. I have nothing to back that up, it's just a gut feeling but they seem to be in complete disarray right now. There isn't much about this system that seems final.
Dead Prince
Banned
im sure they will be ready to ship. but most likely will end up working hard post launch to fix any problems with the OSes. i wonder if they can get RROD and BSOD at the same time.
Well here is a TV ad for Assassins Creed IV. I doubt the PS4 will be out before Oct. 29th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq7i-dQNhhg
Ninja Moomin
Banned
just repeating because it really has to be before the cod date else the co-marketing arrangement and showing the console with the game is a complete waste of time and money.
Ninja Moomin
Banned
doesn't show a picture of the console though... does every assasins creed ad feature ps4? every single COD one does (and doesn't show anything else)... it's a big co-marketing investment by MS for COD.
I agree, but the co-marketing doesn't necessarily mean it's going to release before on in tandem with the game. There hasn't been an official announcement for the release date I doubt their going to make it in a confusing, unspecified TV commer...wait... it's Microsoft.
phosphor112
Banned
If they release in December, then MS really has gone full on stupid.
Seen as the footage was shot in April, when they had the GT crew there as well for the behind the scenes stuff - that would make it November.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Oh snap! That puts that to bed. Either way you interpret it. It's not November.
metareferential
Member
It will around late-october.
Forza 5 is releasing at launch, Forza titles release around late-october.
Just my two cents.
Forza 5 is releasing at launch, Forza titles release around late-october.
Just my two cents.
xaosslug
Member
hopefully... plans can change. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯ But, considering that MS has launched w/ questionable hardware in the past, so that they could launch early/first, I think it's pretty much a given XBone will be launching whenever PS4 launches, whether it's ready for prime time or not.BobTheFork
Member
Yeah, I have to say both consoles will be pushing as hard as possible for black friday or bust.
Also, COD is coming to current consoles as well so their release date won't match the new consoles by default.
Also, COD is coming to current consoles as well so their release date won't match the new consoles by default.
dragonbane
Member
Nope, Dashboard clearly says May 14.
ilikesanta
Member
If MS is truly behind in manufacturing they will launch in November regardless, even if it's only 200k units for US only. No way they will miss Black Friday. Then they can milk the hype that Xbones are so hard to find, making it that more desirable.
Im going to say end of August or early to mid September. They are spending 400 million on NFL services which starts on September 5th so the longer they take to get it out the more they are just wasting money. This will be for the US of course and launching more towards November for the rest of the world.
Forza comes out when the One comes out, not the other way around.
That1BlackGuy
Member
They ain't missing Black Friday fam, that's money on the table.
BlastProcessing
Member
No way they miss November. No way. Even if they ship it without half the features working, they will get it out by November and just patch it.