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Deeku · Jul 31, 2013

-8.62 B yen vs. estimates of 1.3B
-1.03M Wii U Software units in 3 months
-160,000 Wii U units world wide in 3 months ending june
-1.4 million 3ds units
-11M 3ds software units
- best analyst estimates mainly due to weaker yen
-animal crossing!

FY Forecasts remain unchanged

source: bloomberg

Drago · Jul 31, 2013

nevermind

FZZ · Jul 31, 2013

Wait that seems pretty good. I'm thinking digital is a lot bigger than people expected.

Edit: oh I see, weaker yen worked to their benefit. Nvm. Still they are recovering compared to last year.

Parmenides · Jul 31, 2013

Nintendo - Consolidated Results for the Three Months Ended June 30, 2013

(reported in Millions of yen)

1 USD ~ 97.89 yen
1 Euro ~ 129.67 yen

Net Sales ---> ¥81,548

Operating Loss ---> ¥4,924

Net Income ---> ¥8,624

Wii U Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

Code:

Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      3.06     0.39      3.45     3.45

FY 2013/14     0.16       -       -        -        0.16     3.61



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      11.69    1.73      13.42    13.42   

FY 2013/14     1.03       -        -       -        1.03     14.44

3DS Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

Code:

Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2010/11       -        -        -      3.61      3.61     3.61

FY 2011/12     0.71     2.36      8.36    2.10      13.53    17.13       

FY 2012/13     1.86     3.20      7.65    1.24      13.95    31.09

FY 2013/14     1.40       -        -       -        1.40     32.48



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2010/11      -        -         -      9.43      9.43     9.43

FY 2011/12     4.53     3.60     19.91    7.96      36.00    45.42    

FY 2012/13     7.39     11.64    20.53    10.05     49.61    95.03

FY 2013/14     11.01      -        -        -       11.01    106.04

Wii Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

Code:

Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2006/07       -        -      3.19     2.65      5.84     5.84

FY 2007/08     3.43     3.90     6.96     4.32      18.61    24.45   

FY 2008/09     5.17     4.93     10.42    5.43      25.95    50.39

FY 2009/10     2.23     3.53     11.30    3.48      20.53    70.93

FY 2010/11     3.04     1.93     8.75     1.36      15.08    86.01

FY 2011/12     1.56     1.79     5.61     0.88      9.84     95.85

FY 2012/13     0.71     0.61     2.21     0.45      3.98     99.84

FY 2013/14     0.21      -        -        -        0.21     100.04   
             


Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY       LTD

FY 2006/07       -        -      17.51    11.33     28.84    28.84

FY 2007/08     15.98    20.99    47.38    35.25     119.60   148.44  

FY 2008/09     40.41    41.00    82.37    40.80     204.58   353.02

FY 2009/10     31.07    45.14    80.43    35.17     191.81   544.83 

FY 2010/11     28.17    37.04    85.33    20.72     171.26   716.09

FY 2011/12     13.44    23.01    52.61    13.31     102.37   818.46 

FY 2012/13     8.47     15.27    21.34    5.53      50.61    869.06

FY 2013/14     3.67       -        -       -        3.67     872.73

NDS Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

Code:

Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2004/05       -        -      2.84     2.43      5.27     5.27

FY 2005/06     1.38     2.19     5.59     2.30      11.46    16.73

FY 2006/07     4.54     5.55     8.79     4.68      23.56    40.29

FY 2007/08     6.98     6.37     11.15    5.81      30.31    70.60   

FY 2008/09     6.94     6.79     11.89    5.56      31.18    101.78

FY 2009/10     5.97     5.73     11.65    3.76      27.11    128.89

FY 2010/11     3.15     3.54     9.01     1.82      17.52    146.42

FY 2011/12     1.44     1.14     2.06     0.46      5.10     151.52

FY 2012/13     0.54     0.44     1.17     0.20      2.35     153.87

FY 2013/14     0.06      -        -        -        0.06     153.93



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY       LTD

FY 2004/05       -        -      5.01     5.48      10.49    10.49

FY 2005/06     5.32     7.98     22.60    14.05     49.95    60.44

FY 2006/07     18.35    24.81    50.64    29.75     123.55   183.98

FY 2007/08     34.26    41.24    71.39    38.73     185.62   369.61   

FY 2008/09     36.59    48.43    78.76    33.53     197.31   566.92

FY 2009/10     29.09    42.06    50.23    30.21     151.59   718.5

FY 2010/11     22.42    32.42    44.15    21.99     120.98   839.48

FY 2011/12     12.13    16.86    22.21    9.62      60.82    900.31

FY 2012/13     8.48     8.82     12.94    3.14      33.38    933.69

FY 2013/14     2.15      -         -       -        2.15     935.84

FY 2013/14 Nintendo Forecast (Unit: Million)

Code:

                3DS       NDS       Wii        Wii U
	
Hardware        18.00      -        2.00       9.00   

Software        80.00     10.00     20.00      38.00

Turok_TTZ · Jul 31, 2013

great informative post op. 10/10 would read again.
so not nintendoomed?

dc89 · Jul 31, 2013

So they're not doomed?

Striek · Jul 31, 2013

Probably should've just waited for Parmenides to do his thread

Anyway really bad results. 5B yen operating loss. 160k Wii U shipped. 3DS down 25% YoY.

They did keep all of Aprils forecasts though.

1st Course · Jul 31, 2013

Wii U = 3.61m
3DS = 32.48m

Surface of Me · Jul 31, 2013

dc89 said:
So they're not doomed?

I assure you, Nintendo is doomed.

Desiato · Jul 31, 2013

Imagine what that number could be if the Wii U wasn't a total failure.

kassatsu · Jul 31, 2013

commanderdeek said:
160,000 Wii U units world wide in 3 months ending june

wow.

Averon · Jul 31, 2013

commanderdeek said:
-8.62 B yen vs. estimates of 1.3B
-1.03M Wii U Software units in 3 months
-160,000 Wii U units world wide in 3 months ending june

Christ. That's bad

Mauricio_Magus · Jul 31, 2013

I thought it would be worse. Great 3DS sales

benny_a · Jul 31, 2013

What the fucking fuck?

-160,000 Wii U units world wide in 3 months ending june

That can't be real. That's horrible!

pieatorium · Jul 31, 2013

160k wii U shipped for a whole quarter, damn thats even worse than i expected

Darryl · Jul 31, 2013

3DS is picking up great in the west. Those Animal Crossing sales are killer. I was actually doubting that game would have the same impact here for awhile.

Striek · Jul 31, 2013

Wii U result is tragic, the 3DS has to be mildly concerning although it had positive momenutum in June, and I'm surprised they haven't already revised down the fiscal year forecasts based on this quarters bad results.

1st Course · Jul 31, 2013

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130731e.pdf

Wii U shipments this Q:

Japan : 90k
Americas: 60k
Rest of the world: 10k

ConradCervantes · Jul 31, 2013

They're going to do what Sony does with their handhelds and bundle the numbers together soon. "Look, the Wii and Wii U combined has sold over one hundred million units!"

Sounds impressive, eh?

Perkel · Jul 31, 2013

Looking at this chart Wii won't probably reach more than 103-104mln

Crash Station · Jul 31, 2013

Wait, so their profit was actually wayyyy above what they had estimated for the quarter? Or am I just reading this wrong?

Soule · Jul 31, 2013

1st Course said:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130731e.pdf

Wii U shipments this Q:

Japan : 90k
Americas: 60k
Rest of the world: 10k

10k..!!!

Crikey they're in some strife.

kurbaan · Jul 31, 2013

3DS pretty good.
WII U not so good. But overall profit is good.

Mpl90 · Jul 31, 2013

Why did they ship that amount of 3DS? It sold much more than that during these three months at retail. Probably still effects from Oct-Dec overshipment.

EDIT: Breakdown from the report

Japan: 640k
Americas: 360k
Rest of the world: 400k

Yeah, undershipment confirmed: just to say, they sold 114 + 115 + 225 = 454k in US alone in these three months.

Bsigg12 · Jul 31, 2013

1st Course said:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130731e.pdf

Wii U shipments this Q:

Japan : 90k
Americas: 60k
Rest of the world: 10k

That's rough. Not as bad as i was expecting in the US but ouch.

Nozem · Jul 31, 2013

So: Wii U doomed, but Nintendo not doomed.

Nirolak · Jul 31, 2013

Mpl90 said:
Why did they ship that amount of 3DS? It sold much more than that during these three months at retail. Probably still effects from Oct-Dec overshipment.

Yes, they're finally starting to get through some of their overstock.

zerokoolpsx · Jul 31, 2013

cosmicblizzard said:
Wait, so their profit was actually wayyyy above what they had estimated for the quarter? Or am I just reading this wrong?

I'm thinking the same thing.
Not doomed after all.

Pureauthor · Jul 31, 2013

Good for them. I guess they're focusing more on stemming the Wii U bleeding than pumping cash to make something happen.

harmonize · Jul 31, 2013

SAVE US PKM

Somebody up at corporate should really consider doing something about the Wii U.

SolarPowered · Jul 31, 2013

1st Course said:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130731e.pdf

Wii U shipments this Q:

Japan : 90k
Americas: 60k
Rest of the world: 10k

It begins.

Fake Edit: Holy shit at the rest of the world.

allan-bh · Jul 31, 2013

160k.

That's pathetic.

metalslimer · Jul 31, 2013

1st Course said:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130731e.pdf

Wii U shipments this Q:

Japan : 90k
Americas: 60k
Rest of the world: 10k

HOLY SHIT

pieatorium · Jul 31, 2013

Bsigg12 said:
That's rough. Not as bad as it has been but ouch.

it's the worst result yet by a huge margin so not sure where you get the not as bad from

Nirolak · Jul 31, 2013

For the Wii U quarterly shipment there's a dedicated thread if people prefer as well: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=639998

cws · Jul 31, 2013

Profit with these horrible WiiU sales ? Holiday season with Pokemon and their WiiU lineup might be strong after all.

antonz · Jul 31, 2013

Interesting that while overall sales were down dollar wise versus last year at this time they managed to turn it around and make a massive jump to profitability.

Soule · Jul 31, 2013

Parmenides said:
snip

Thank you.

SmokyDave · Jul 31, 2013

160k. Ouch.

Perkel · Jul 31, 2013

Just saw dat 160k.

Maybe they will do Gamecube case again and redo their console releasing it in 2015 ?

Striek · Jul 31, 2013

antonz said:
Interesting that while overall sales were down dollar wise versus last year at this time they managed to turn it around and make a massive jump to profitability.

Its all exchange rate gains. They're still at an operating loss.

Gamer @ Heart · Jul 31, 2013

The channel is flooded. Stands to reason they barely shipped WiiUs this quarter. I doubt 2q will be much better. Its all about the holiday

Duxxy3 · Jul 31, 2013

The 3DS is keeping the company upright.

jj984jj · Jul 31, 2013

160k? Holy Shit! How could they not change the forecast?

benny_a · Jul 31, 2013

ConradCervantes said:
They're going to do what Sony does with their handhelds and bundle the numbers together soon. "Look, the Wii and Wii U combined has sold over one hundred million units!"

Sounds impressive, eh?

I think Sony can get away with it because they are such a huge business and their statements would be super huge if every division got into details. (Not that I agree with this and they should be called out by big investors.)

Nintendo doesn't have that luxury.

Bsigg12 · Jul 31, 2013

pieatorium said:
it's the worst result yet by a huge margin so not sure where you get the not as bad from

I should have specified, I mean in the US alone, as a whole its piss poor.

StreetsAhead · Jul 31, 2013

Gamer @ Heart said:
The channel is flooded. Stands to reason they barely shipped WiiUs this quarter. I doubt 2q will be much better. Its all about the holiday

Q2 has Pikmin, The Wonderful 101, and Wind Waker HD, so probably.

Nirolak · Jul 31, 2013

Bsigg12 said:
I should have specified, I mean in the US alone, as a whole its piss poor.

In the US it didn't really go up over last month in the weekly sense, it's just a 5 week month.

It was something like 8.2K per week to 8.4K per week.

pieatorium · Jul 31, 2013

Bsigg12 said:
I should have specified, I mean in the US alone, as a whole its piss poor.

still the worst result by a large margin for us shipments

Gamer @ Heart · Jul 31, 2013

StreetsAhead said:
Q2 has Pikmin, The Wonderful 101, and Wind Waker HD, so probably.

Better yes, but not the turn around they need.

I bet those games will do fine in the long run, but not push the units a typically healthy system would.

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