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31 Days of Horror 3 |OT| The October Movie Marathon

What really bothered me it was a good idea executed poorly.

If you were to remake Halloween, I think a smart direction to take would be to try to explain why Michael Myers did what he did. The original spends about 5 minutes giving us Michael's background, so you have a lot you can creatively work with. So I was actually looking forward to seeing what Rob Zombie tries to do. Unfortunately, I found it very disappointing. Michael becomes a killer because his mom is a stripper and kids were mean to him at school? Yeah okay.

See I didn't get that from the movie, to me it kept the notion of the original in which the pure evil aspect was still there. Torturing/killing animals, other kids in school, the complete lack of emotion and remorse. They gave him some actual emotions unlike the complete blank that was the original Myers. To me it was the most interesting part of the film to see the spiraling before life, my issue with the movie was the 2nd half which was a bit too much remake territory. In that same token, I didn't like Halloween 2 that Zombie did, but I respected it for doing his own thing with it and not trying to remake too closely.

At the same time, I just don't mind remakes. For decades we have dealt with one sequel after another for our beloved horror franchises, often times these numbered sequels bearing not an ounce of continuity and in essence being the same thing as a remake. Of course in the past we didn't do this, they just slapped a number on the film and called it a sequel. Like the Friday the 13th remake that some folks flipped their shit over. If they had called it Friday the 13th Part 11, folks probably wouldn't have cared as much.... and I think they could have just done that as we know how well the continuity and that series has been....

Nothing though will ever be as bad as Busta Rhymes jump kicking Micheal Myers out a window
 

WorldStar

Banned
See I didn't get that from the movie, to me it kept the notion of the original in which the pure evil aspect was still there. Torturing/killing animals, other kids in school, the complete lack of emotion and remorse. They gave him some actual emotions unlike the complete blank that was the original Myers. To me it was the most interesting part of the film to see the spiraling before life, my issue with the movie was the 2nd half which was a bit too much remake territory. In that same token, I didn't like Halloween 2 that Zombie did, but I respected it for doing his own thing with it and not trying to remake too closely.

At the same time, I just don't mind remakes. For decades we have dealt with one sequel after another for our beloved horror franchises, often times these numbered sequels bearing not an ounce of continuity and in essence being the same thing as a remake. Of course in the past we didn't do this, they just slapped a number on the film and called it a sequel. Like the Friday the 13th remake that some folks flipped their shit over. If they had called it Friday the 13th Part 11, folks probably wouldn't have cared as much.... and I think they could have just done that as we know how well the continuity and that series has been....

Nothing though will ever be as bad as Busta Rhymes jump kicking Micheal Myers out a window

I'm actually a big fan of remakes, I just hold them to a much higher standard. Some of my favorite movies have been remade, and often I find myself a fan of the remake. Some examples of movies that have been remade that I like are:

Dawn of the Dead (2004)
Evil Dead
Maniac
Night of the Living Dead (1990)
The Crazies
The Ring
The Hills Have Eyes (arguably better than the original IMO)

I could probably go on. But I don't believe that, as a remake, Halloween is nearly as good as the films I just listed.
 

White Man

Member
Tourist Trap was pretty interesting. Mr. Slausen is definitely one of the most underrated (or undermentioned) crazy dudes of horror. I feel the movie could have taken things a bit further, though.

I'll vouch for Tourist Trap as a quality flick that most people don't seem to know about.


Creepshow was a mixed bag. The second and the fifth story were pretty poor. The first and third were alright, though pretty basic revenge stories with potential to be something more. A new side to Leslie Nielsen. The Crate was the highlight.

The second one is the one with Stephen King and the meteor, right? That one's the pits. Isn't the last one the one with the bugs? I remember liking that one, but I haven't seen it in a while.

And yes, the crate one is the best, by far. Mmmmmm Adrienne Barbeau.
 
October 10th

Film number 20: The Lords Of Salem
Tagline: We've been waiting... We've always been waiting

Opening thoughts: I’ve been saving this film up. I was going to watch it was part of a double bill with RZ’s Halloween remake on the 31st, but I can’t wait any longer.

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Closing thought: I fucking love this film. I knew I was going to. I have difficulty maintaining any kind of critical distance from Rob Zombie’s films, because I’m a total fan boy. Something about his stuff just completely clicks with me. I adore it. He has a fair few detractors but I just tend to feel sorry for them. They’re missing out on so much awesome.
To allow my adoration to continue unhindered I like to pretend Zombie's embarrassing Halloween 2 doesn't exist, of course.

Anyway, The Lords of Salem feels like a restrained, 1980s European horror movie in many ways. It’s gorgeously stylish and immaculately written and quite frequently as weird as fuck. Sheri Moon Zombie puts in her best performance yet but the film belongs to Judy Geeson, Patricia Quinn and Dee Wallace as a trio of friendly old girls who are not quite what they first appear. If I was going to criticise the film for anything it would be for not giving those three enough screen time together. But I’m not going to criticise the film for anything.

Score: 9.9 out of 10. Pretty much perfect.

Watched so far:
October 1 - Wreckage (1/10) Storage (6/10)
October 2 - Absentia (9/10) Uninhabited (3/10)
October 3 - The Fallow Field (7/10)
October 4 - Insidious (6/10) The Devil's Rock (8/10)
October 5 - Seconds Apart (6/10) The Awakening (8/10) When The Lights Went Out (8/10)
October 6 - Lake Mungo (6/10) Cherry Tree Lane (8/10) The Seasoning House (9/10)
October 7 - Bruiser (2/10) Devoured (9.5/10)
October 8 - The Devil's Business (4/10) Session 9 (4/10) Needle (6.5/10)
October 9 - V/H/S (8.5 /10)
 
NO! I quite disliked Hellraiser II, and I hated Hellraiser III. I cannot handle any more of this franchise. I'll become an alcoholic if I watch any more Hellraiser!

Inferno it´s barely an Hellraiser movie, it´s a completely different beast from the rest of the franchise and it´s an interesting movie on it´s own.
 

strobogo

Banned
NO! I quite disliked Hellraiser II, and I hated Hellraiser III. I cannot handle any more of this franchise. I'll become an alcoholic if I watch any more Hellraiser!


3 and 4 are next level awful. The DTV sequels are actually much better, because they aren't even Hellraiser movies. They are unconnected movies that had random Cenobites and Pinhead thrown in. The last one made just to keep the rights from expiring was unbelievable, though.
 
#13 Stepfather 3 (1992)
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- Ugh, just horrible in every way. The original Stepfather as I mentioned already here I think was a great underrated thriller/horror flick. The 2nd one was not that bad either thanks to having the same actor who is great in the role and makes those movies. But Stepfather 3 just was horribad. Terry O Quin didn't do this one so the movie starts right off with having a hooded mystery man (lol) getting back alley plastic surgery. So yea that's how they explain the actor change for the character.... whatever. The new actor playing the stepfather has no charm that the original did. Movie feels like a TV movie with how cheap it is and for some god awful reason it's incredibly long too. Nothing good at all, extreme bore.
 

JAGII

Neo Member
You know nothing about condescension.

The tone of the majority feels like an after-school special. The shift pays off on that.

Pay more attention in school.

:p

EDIT: Also, the theme is timeless and plays as well now as it did back then. See also: They Live.

I can see the after-school special approach, but I don't know that I agree that it has a theme. As I said in my write-up above, this doesn't really work as a "snobs v. slobs" critique like They Live (or, better yet, Street Trash) because Billy is still a rich handsome guy who gets plenty of hot girls. The anti-rich approach feels, to me, like a flimsy moral to justify the excess of the shunting scene.


ThirstyFly said:
I really should get around to watching the original some day. I like Terry O'Quinn and I've only seen the bland remake.

You really should. Terry O'Quinn is magnetic in the role, and its a great Reagan-era, Moral Majority slasher.
 

GK86

Homeland Security Fail
1)The Blair Witch Project (Netflix, Mexico)
2)Halloween (remake, Netflix Canada)
3)The Crazies (Netflix, Canada)
4)The Collector (Netflix Canada)
5)Halloween 2 (remake, Netflix Canada)
6)Slugs (Netflix US)

7)The Collection (Netflix US): Sequel to The Collector and not a bad sequel at that. Out is the great atmosphere from the first movie. Which is a big shame. I thought the atmosphere and suspense from the first were top notch. In is a large playhouse that makes it feel more like the Saw movies. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it makes the movie not feel as fresh as the first one. You get a view inside the killers twisted mind. The big downside for me is the lack of hunting and capturing. There are some elements of it here, as just as good as the first. The torture porn is almost non-existent in the sequel.

Overall, I thought it was a good movie, but only if you liked the first. The opening sequence is worth checking it out for. But other than that, don't watch it if you haven't seen the first movie. 6.5/10
 

JAGII

Neo Member
Who said that was the theme?

Your comments and requirements are strange.

Heh - I can't argue with that. But then again, we are talking about a movie where incestuous mutants perform fleshy contortions with one another. Strangeness seems unavoidable.

But I do think I misunderstood you, then -- what did you have in mind when you said that Society has a timeless theme?

Personally, I don't think it has a proper theme. I don't really think it's much more than an exercise in slimy excess, with a "rich people are evil" conspiracy plot providing an organizing device -- a way to structure the set-pieces into a coherent narrative.
 
Man, do I miss old school poster/cover designs.

How could they go from this gorgeous painting:

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To this Photoshop monstrosity?

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Even the new throwback covers from Scream Factory and The Dude Designs don't have the level of craft they had back in the 70s and 80s.
 
I wonder if sometimes its some kind of rights issue with the original art or something. Makes little sense lot of these cover decisions on DVD rereleases. Do they save some kind of fee to not use the original art?
 
Day 7
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"God bless her mom and dad."

Synopsis: Cropsy, a caretaker at Camp Blackfoot, is horribly burned in a prank gone bad. He is released from the hospital five years later, and sets his sights on Camp Stonewater, just across the way from his old stomping grounds.

This one caught me by surprise. The Burning is an early production from The Weinsteins and it was actually co-written by Bob Weinstein. It was released during the height of the "slasher era" and avoids some of the tropes that are typical of the films from that era. It's less of a bodycount film and spends most of its time building suspense. There is not really any character development that takes place, but the characters are more than just fodder for the killer. The teenagers, except for that one creepy kid, act like typical teenagers, their dialogue is entertaining and they were generally fun to watch. At one point I actually forgot that Cropsy was out there waiting to kill them all. The musical score was memorable and pretty creepy as well. The Burning features cameos from a young Holly Hunter and George Costanza (Jason Alexander). With a full head of hair and a set of legs that would make Hugh Jackman jealous, he was easily my favorite character in the film. The biggest star of the show though is Tom Savini, who passed on Friday the 13th Part 2 to do the effects for this film. As you would expect, he kills it in this movie. Aside from his usual slasher fare, like seeing a throat get slit, he surprised me a few times with the creativity of some of the death scenes. Outside of the "Dead" series, this is probably the best work I've seen from him.

All in all, The Burning is one of the top slashers released from the height of the era, and it actually out Fridays alot of the Fridays.

8.5/10

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I wonder if sometimes its some kind of rights issue with the original art or something. Makes little sense lot of these cover decisions on DVD rereleases. Do they save some kind of fee to not use the original art?

Yeah, could be a rights thing. Also could be to differentiate a re-release. I just got Elvira's Haunted Hills today and instead of the awesome painting cover that the original disc had it's just a photo of Elvira and her boobs. There's nothing that makes it stand out from the 50 other DVDs with her boobs on the cover.

Formatting could be another issue since DVD & BD covers are shorter than posters, but VHS covers were thinner and they didn't care about cropping them then.

It's just disappointing so much great artwork is now lost to the times. Some companies do include the original artwork on inserts or reversible covers though, so that's nice.

I just wish they'd put a little effort into the new covers. Even stuff that isn't a release like Curse of Chucky's cover is just sad.

I guess they just don't give a crap since they're not fighting over shelf space at a video store anymore.
 
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The biggest star of the show though is Tom Savini, who passed on Friday the 13th Part 2 to do the effects for this film. As you would expect, he kills it in this movie. Aside from his usual slasher fare, like seeing a throat get slit, he surprised me a few times with the creativity of some of the death scenes. Outside of the "Dead" series, this is probably the best work I've seen from him.

Have you seen The Prowler? I think those are my fave Savini effects and according to a bit of trivia on IMDd he considers it to be his best work.

And is it just me or does Jason Alexander have one hell of a hairy back in that scene from the GIF you posted? Watch when he gets out of the water. Worst wet t-shirt ever.
 

Mileena

Banned
I'm watching Misery, which is not my usual kind of movie.

I'm not sure I'm going to make it through.

spoiler: it's mediocre and so very boring

King stuff is so hit or miss, his horrors usually miss though (It and Pet Sematary don't hold up I recently found out!)
 

rogueriffers

Neo Member
Just out of curiosity, what made you think it would be anything like Demons? I don't see how they're related at all.

And as for the music, which version did you watch? The English dub and the Spanish version have different scores, the Spanish being vastly superior.

I had a click through the film and compared a few scenes listening to each with the english and then the spanish audio soundtracks. The spanish soundtrack wasn't bad, but it wouldn't have added much for me. It seemed to run the gamut from generic jazz to saccharine piano and strings, to Henry Manfredini-style synthesizer dissonance.
On top of that, they took out the one good pop song in the whole movie for the spanish dub (the song that plays during the dance rehearsal routine in the english version, the one with the vocoder vocals and synthesizers).

Oh and I thought it was Italian. Also thought Pod People was italian as a result. That's why the Demons comparison. I see now that they're Spanish.
 
Have you seen The Prowler? I think those are my fave Savini effects and according to a bit of trivia on IMDd he considers it to be his best work.

And is it just me or does Jason Alexander have one hell of a hairy back in that scene from the GIF you posted? Watch when he gets out of the water. Worst wet t-shirt ever.

Haven't seen The Prowler, but I've heard Savini mention it before. It's on my next year potential list, should I bump it up to this year?

I didn't notice the hairy back until now, I was wondering why he didn't take his shirt off. lol
 

aFIGurANT

Member
October 10th - [REC]
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So I never realized, despite all the attention that this movie gets on Gaf, that it's a foreign film. That kind of threw me at first as I couldn't focus on the screen as much as I'd have liked to (serious hotty as the protagonist here) but as is usually the case that went away and I was soon enjoying a great zombie horror story. There's not a ton new here but the approach that the director took was really nice in terms of pacing and plot - nothing revolutionary but all in all satisfying from beginning to end.

I'll admit that in the end I felt a bit cheated that everything was contained to basically one location and
everyone gets got
, but other than that the effects as far as zombie design and cinematography went were pretty stellar. I'd pay to see the sequel to this one in theatres just based on the awesome use of shaky-cam and confined suspense on display here, although this cast would be hard to beat in future installments.
 
Haven't seen The Prowler, but I've heard Savini mention it before. It's on my next year potential list, should I bump it up to this year?

I didn't notice the hairy back until now, I was wondering why he didn't take his shirt off. lol

The Prowler is great. I watched both for the first time last year and really enjoyed them. I'd say move it up to this year, they'd make a great double feature.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The second one is the one with Stephen King and the meteor, right? That one's the pits. Isn't the last one the one with the bugs? I remember liking that one, but I haven't seen it in a while.

And yes, the crate one is the best, by far. Mmmmmm Adrienne Barbeau.

That was the first one. The second is the one with "Thanks for the ride, lady!" and the raft, and the cigar store Indian.
 
I had a click through the film and compared a few scenes listening to each with the english and then the spanish audio soundtracks. The spanish soundtrack wasn't bad, but it wouldn't have added much for me. It seemed to run the gamut from generic jazz to saccharine piano and strings, to Henry Manfredini-style synthesizer dissonance.
On top of that, they took out the one good pop song in the whole movie for the spanish dub (the song that plays during the dance rehearsal routine in the english version, the one with the vocoder vocals and synthesizers).

Oh and I thought it was Italian. Also thought Pod People was italian as a result. That's why the Demons comparison. I see now that they're Spanish.

I think the English version plays it up for laughs a little more. The dialogue and music are much, much cheesier. Not to say the Spanish version isn't as well, but it keeps the tension going better since the music isn't so silly.

I just don't get the Demons comparison because they're totally different styles of movies. Demons is closer to a zombie movie, and even though it's pretty silly itself, it attempts to play it straight (from what I remember anyway, it's been a while since I've seen it). Pieces is a slasher that feels quite a bit like a giallo and if they tried to play it straight, man did they fail. I don't know what Pod People is so I can't comment on that.

Anyway, too bad you didn't like it but I guess it's not for everyone. I plan to revisit it soon.
 

rogueriffers

Neo Member
That was the first one. The second is the one with "Thanks for the ride, lady!" and the raft, and the cigar store Indian.

I realized last year that I honestly like part II better now. I think the first one is better if I'm just thinking about it. Cooler ideas, more scary, but I'd rather sit down and watch the second one. Maybe that's just because I've seen the first so many times.
 
#10 Fright Night Part II (1988) Oct 10

Death scenes from this time period are definitely the best in history - better than both oldies stop-motion and modern CGI. While not as great and funny as the original, still made me smile few times. Bonus points for Brujah leader starring in this.

The main theme of Fright Night series seems to be voyeurism. Very ofter characters do spy on others through windows. This is present and highly accented in both parts of original and reboot as well.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I just ran across a horror movie that I couldn't even finish. Don't Go In The Woods.
I could probably have handled its pure awfulness, but the cinematography was the deal-breaker.
It's ugly, sure. But the real problem is that they shot the entire movie at a really fast shutter speed. (or low shutter angle, depending on what camera they used) It pulled me out of the movie constantly, which may have been a good thing.
 
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Oct 7th - Killer Clowns from Outer Space

Only saw bits and pieces of this when I was younger. Never stood out to me then and honestly nothing really sticks out about it now either.
The film never really gets past it's legitimately promising title and totally rad theme song.
It's very bland and clearly all of the budget went to the clowns themselves.... which itself presets a problem because they're just sort of there. They're never scary (i'm not one of those people that finds clowns scary to begin with) and honestly you begin to pity them because the actor's look really uncomfortable trying to make the outfits work. Sure this was supposed to be more of a comedy, but even there the film really falls flat.
Probably the funniest thing in the whole thing was the protagonists awesome wool sweater that looked like it was a christmas preset.
I'm an 80s baby all the way and am always up for some "totally 80s" throwbacks. This unfortunately isn't one. It wasn't good then and it still isn't good now.
The only reason this film probably has any mindshare is due to cats out there still being spooked by clowns.

4/10


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Oct 8th - Shaun of the Dead

I'm still not crazy about the film's latter half, but everything 2/3rds the way through is just sooooo fucking dailed in. I forgot also what a great looking film it is to boot.
Also, I think I noticed a subtle Evil Dead 2 reference this time with Shaun's manager roomate in the shower. Basically with Shaun saying the line "join us..." while staring at the dude who's make-up really resembles Ash's Deadite form.

9/10

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Oct 9th - Land of the Dead

George's last film before he, in my opinion, went off the reservation :(

It's really sad too because this film still looks fucking fantastic and is mostly quite good. There's some stuff that didn't really work when it was released and still doesn't here. Basically the whole Big Daddy Zombie is mostly a miss and the concept of the evolving zombie in general tends to be played too, I don't know, sappy I guess. Also, the movie just feels way too short for all the material it tries to cover. The world they got here (which is awesome) just doesn't get enough time to breath.
On with the good though:

+ Gore is still fantastic
+ Dennis Hopper, whether on purpose or not, is legitimately awesome in this
+ John Leguizamo, even though he's a bit of a walking cliche, is also pretty damn great with the material he's given
+ I still have a big crush on Asia Argento <3
+ As I said, the film has just a great look to it (considering it's budget) with standouts being Dead Reckoning itself. It's really makes me wish we got an actual big budget traditional zombie film instead of putrid shit like WWZ

7.5/10

It makes me wonder how much George had to do with this film though. I know he wrote it, but I have a bit of a hard time buying that it was all him since he went right into the misfire that was Diary of the Dead. Survival of the Dead doesn't exist...

So yeah, since I'm ahead one film right now, i'm taking the 10th off and gonna resume on the 11th with V/H/S 2.
 

rogueriffers

Neo Member
I think the English version plays it up for laughs a little more. The dialogue and music are much, much cheesier. Not to say the Spanish version isn't as well, but it keeps the tension going better since the music isn't so silly.

I just don't get the Demons comparison because they're totally different styles of movies. Demons is closer to a zombie movie, and even though it's pretty silly itself, it attempts to play it straight (from what I remember anyway, it's been a while since I've seen it). Pieces is a slasher that feels quite a bit like a giallo and if they tried to play it straight, man did they fail. I don't know what Pod People is so I can't comment on that.

Anyway, too bad you didn't like it but I guess it's not for everyone. I plan to revisit it soon.

Don't get me wrong. I liked the movie alright.
When I thought all three were Italian, it made sense, I think. I was using Demons as the highest on the scale of 80's Italo-horror, and Pod People as the lowest. I meant I hoped it would be more of a 10 than a 1, basically, but framed in an 80s Italian horror context. It turned out to be more of a 5 or a 6. I had very high expectations because I thought Slugs was a genuinely great horror movie.
Anyway, Pod People is another movie by the same guy who did Pieces and Slugs. It was featured in one of the more well known MST3K episodes. It's pretty terrible.

I should say you're right that the english music is just plain awful. As I'm thinking more about it I think the Spanish music is much better. I just wish they'd left that cool song in during the dance rehearsal.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Killer Klowns is plenty funny, to me at least.
 

An-Det

Member
Day 4: Apollo 18

A found footage movie about the last time we went to the moon, explaining why why didn't go back. It was ok, shot really well but it didn't really trust the viewer to catch anything subtle. Based on the premise of the movie I figured everyone would die anyway (they were pretty lifeless anyway), but watching them go through these discoveries was neat. Overall I liked it, it was nothing special.


Day 5: The Possession

I really liked this one. The Comedian gets a divorce, and at a yard sale one of his daughters finds a box that leads to the "The Possession". Hugely inspired by stuff like The Exorcist, it's lighter on the shocks and leans more towards tenseness and weird things building atmosphere. The two best were easily the
fingers coming up the throat and the demon showing up in the scans staring back
, which fits perfectly for the film without getting into sudden shock things. I was really impressed by the acting of the little girl playing Emily, which was easily the best part of the movie. Solid movie.


Day 6: The Corridor

This was a weird one, but good. A guy goes crazy, and to make amends to his friends that he hurt, they take a weekend trip to a cabin in the woods. One guy finds a weird Corridor of energy in the woods that blends their thoughts and memories, and things go bad while people start dying. While there isn't much jump horror, things get very tense and creepy as events unfold, which is great to watch since everyone plays the parts great. It's relatively low budget, but it was worth the watch.


Day 7: Carrie (1976)

This was really, really good. I saw the tv remake in 2002 when that released but didn't remember much of it other than basic plot points, so I wanted to check out the original adaptation of it. Some of the tropes were a bit funny (like the sudden screeching when Carrie uses her TK), but overall it worked very well. Sissy Spacek was great in the title role, but I was most impressed with Piper Laurie as the mother. She was fucking crazy, rather than just a religious nutjob from the tv remake, such as, in one of the final scenes, where she
is walking towards Carrie, holding a knife and is smiling as if she'd just baked a pie
. Another moment that got a laugh from me was when Carrie
suggested her going to the prom, the mother replies "Prom?" and suddenly thunder/lightning blast to accentuate the question
. The audio was really good, especially such as when
the pig's blood falls and it's complete silence followed by various taunts heard through the movie running through Carrie's mind
. The background music in the climactic scene was fantastic, really setting the mood.

The actual killing near the end I don't think was as creative as in the remake, but having multiple split camera shots during that scene was great, really letting you see the chaos unfold. Overall, definitely glad to have watched this. I'm curious to see how the new version releasing next week turns out, though I'll probably keep that for next year's list.
 
Don't get me wrong. I liked the movie alright.
When I thought all three were Italian, it made sense, I think. I was using Demons as the highest on the scale of 80's Italo-horror, and Pod People as the lowest. I meant I hoped it would be more of a 10 than a 1, basically, but framed in an 80s Italian horror context. It turned out to be more of a 5 or a 6. I had very high expectations because I thought Slugs was a genuinely great horror movie.
Anyway, Pod People is another movie by the same guy who did Pieces and Slugs. It was featured in one of the more well known MST3K episodes. It's pretty terrible.

I think it actually was a Spain/Italy production, so it had some Italian money in its veins even if the rest of it is Spanish, so you're not too far off, really.

Maybe I should give Demons another watch. I liked it, but didn't think it was nearly that good. I was big into the 70s-80s Euro zombie flicks back then though so that might be why.

I tried to find a Pod People trailer but all I could find was the MST3K version on youtube and I don't want to watch it like that. Oh well.

Killer Klowns is plenty funny, to me at least.

Seconded. I love that movie.
 

devenger

Member
Oct 10: Home Movie - I admit, I fast forwarded through the 'funny parts' in the first half. A lot of the parents trying to be goofy, then a disturbing part at the end of each scene. This repeats until the Easter egg hunt, where it gets all the points I gave it. Ramps up significantly, and gets a lot more fun. Not scary, and there are quite a few horrible blunders the characters make, but it doesn't really matter. The second half is a quick, escalating ride and then it's over. 5/10.
 

kaiju

Member
Day 9: Inferno (1980)

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Inferno is the sequel to Dario Argento's Suspiria, and is about a poet named Rose who finds an evil book called The Three Mothers and suspects she is living in one of the dwellings depicted within. She sends a letter to her brother Mark to get him to come visit her, and soon after that all hell breaks loose as Mark tries to figure out what is going on.

I know the plot setup I just gave sounded pretty stupid but I can't really go into detail without spoiling anything, as it's a pretty complex story. I enjoyed this one. It had some classic scares, and while some of the effects were horrible (rubber dead people!), others such as the set pieces and giant flames were decent. The soundtrack is excellent and the ending is damn near epic, with a speech that rivals the "His name is Jason" speech from Friday the 13th. Not bad.
 

Ridley327

Member
I'm glad I didn't dive right into a review for today's film, since stewing on it the rest of the day not only got me through work, but I've actually grown to like it more as a result!

WEEK TWO - GROWING PAINS
October 10



Excision's opening scene does a lot to either dissuade you or persuade you into what the film is selling: after a cold title appearance, we see double of our film's protagonist, Pauline. One of them is sputtering blood and is poised to explode into a graphic mess; the other is writhing in her chair in orgasmic glee. Both are looking straight at each other, so there's a feeling that they're both feeding into their respective positions: the bloody Pauline is vomiting blood at the sight of the sexual gesticulations of the one sitting across from her, and the climaxing Pauline is getting off on the violence that's in front of her. Who started it? What came first? Who do we identify with? Who is the real Pauline? These are questions that go unanswered when Pauline, the real Pauline, wakes up in her bedroom, and it becomes just another day in the family household.

Excision is one of "those" kinds of films, the ones that get to be difficult, off-putting, cringe-worthy, transgressive, unapologetic, disgusting, unsettling, and, through it all, pretty goddamned brilliant by the time the credits roll and you're starting to reflect on it. It's remarkable that this is writer/director Richard Bates, Jr.'s first film, because it feels like the culmination of an entire career spent on other projects that were building to this film. Excision is a sharply written, confidently directed, well acted, beautiful piece of grotesque that doesn't come along very often.

It's always a gutsy decision to spend a movie on an inherently unlikable character, and it's really hard to picture one as deeply toxic as Pauline. She has nothing but naked contempt for her mother, constantly challenges and embarrasses her teachers, plays her fellow students against one another for her personal gain, and has suffers delusions of grandeur of being one of the finest surgeons to hopefully debut in the profession. She's obsessed with the sanguinary nature of things, particularly where it's least hygienic (word of warning: this film may put you off cunnilingus forever), and finds her sexual fantasies in where she is both patient and practitioner, experimenting with all sorts of alien medical procedures. Her only ray of sunshine is her affection for her sickly sister, and it's not entirely clear if it's entirely for her sister's sake. Yet Pauline is always compelling to watch, thanks to Bates, Jr's writing and AnnaLynne McCord's tremendous performance. McCord's supermodel good looks are all but eradicated for the film, as both the acne-ridden real world Pauline, and the otherworldly, inhuman Pauline of her sexual fantasies, and the film relies on McCord's quick wit and physical presence, and she digs right into the material unlike many I've seen on the screen. If she ever got material this good in a mainstream film, she'd be showered with awards. Alas, those kinds of films don't take kindly at less squeamish moments involving looking at a very bloody tampon in awe, and certainly not with McCord's dedication. Also impressive, and I can assure you that such words would have never entered my mind for her acting talent until this film, is Traci Lords as Pauline's mother, Phyllis. Her domineering matriarch is wholly believable, and manages to keep up with the dark directions that her dialogue goes in without missing a single beat. She goes tit for tat with McCord effortlessly, selling their combative relationship, but also carrying a lining of profound sorrow at not only her failure to raise Pauline, but of her own troubled upbringing. Even her victories, few as they are, feel like defeats.

The rest of the cast does solid work as well, but if there is a complaint I must make about the film, it's that it gets a little too guest-star-happy after a bit. I could take John Waters, especially in a surprisingly straight role, and I can also buy into Marlee Matlin's small role, as she manages to get one of the best lines in the film without ever uttering it, but you do start to get distracted when Malcom McDowell shows up as Pauline's grumpy math teacher, and you wander straight into "OK, movie, that's enough now" when the principal turns out to be Ray Wise. It's not so much that they play their parts poorly, but that it feels like the film is straining for some kind of credibility by having such familiar cult film actors show up. It's an unfortunate misstep, but only a minor one.

Excision is not an easy film to like, and it will assuredly alienate the hell out of a lot of people who do watch it. For those who are willing to invest in it, however, it is one of the strongest psychological horror films I've ever seen, and it's one that will stay with me for quite some time.

October 11 preview: Proving that no concept is too obscure for horror films to wander into, we find a double feature of coming-of-age horror films that center around holes in the ground. In The Pit, the wrong kind of little boy comes across a pit full of hungry monsters that he sees fit to use for his own purposes. And in Jug Face, a pregnant teen's situation gets a hell of a lot more complicated when she's next in line to be sacrificed to a mysterious pit in the forest that surrounds the small, insular community that she's a part of.
 

Ridley327

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I just ran across a horror movie that I couldn't even finish. Don't Go In The Woods.
I could probably have handled its pure awfulness, but the cinematography was the deal-breaker.
It's ugly, sure. But the real problem is that they shot the entire movie at a really fast shutter speed. (or low shutter angle, depending on what camera they used) It pulled me out of the movie constantly, which may have been a good thing.

I think I saw a trailer for that one on AIS. I noticed that camera effect right away, and decided to pass on it. I would also think that Vincent D'Onofrio is a very strange pick to direct a horror film.
 

GhaleonEB

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#10 | Salvage | via Netflix streaming

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I bailed out of Misery early - I just don't do medical horror well at all - and went rummaging through the horror films on my queue to watch something else. I went for a shorter length film, as I'd eaten up 20 minutes with Misery already.

Salvage is a very low budget British film set mostly at a single location with just a handful of characters, but it makes good use of what it's got. A teenage daughter is (unwillingly) dropped off by her dad for a visit to her mom on Christmas eve. A none too subtle radio news story mentions a shipping container washed up on the beach nearby.

The daughter walks in on her mom bopping some random dude and runs off in disgust. Immediately after, a commando team descends and puts the neighborhood into lock down, searching house to house.

The rest of the film was very predictable and the pacing was a bit uneven, but it is done with some style and with some very tense sequences, especially near the end. This is despite telegraphing nearly every jump scare and an utterly predictable ending. I actually said out loud what was going to happen right before it happened.

Still, the lead performance was excellent and at a trim 75 minutes, it didn't have much fat to speak of. A solid if predictable low budget horror flick.

Edit: I re-watched Killer Klowns a few years ago and thought it was still fun. Not scary, but cheesy, creepy fun.
 
Ouch. Care to elaborate?

It starts off bad enough with the flashback kill with some very unconvincing knife stabbing which doesn't seem to touch her and half-hearted screaming. Then the actors lock in place for a camera pan out which is either a failed freeze-frame or the characters actually were supposed to lock in place. Either way it's unconvincing, laugh-out-loud funny and not scary.

The soundtrack is nice but already from the get-go we notice how incredibly overused it is. Some people walking down a road for 5 seconds and there's nothing unusual going on and there's nothing the music could actually call attention to? Let's throw in the theme song cause we can't have silence for just 5 seconds and it's the only song we have! In general, I prefer movies with a sparse soundtrack with little non-diagetic sound; this is the very opposite of that.

Then comes the dialogue and acting with are both quite often very unconvincing. I don't believe for a second that these are real characters in a consistent fictional world rather than actors on screen. And when you don't believe they're characters, you don't really care much when they die. Especially not when all the kills are so uncreative and just the same thing.

The way the killer has zero known motivation could be interesting, like a kind of mystery, if it was explored properly. But as it was written know, I just don't buy it. It seems he could have just not given the effort and he would have gotten the same thing out of it (which is nothing, not even satisfaction). Why take the effort to do something you don't want to do and which you don't have to do? Maybe it's just my laziness talking but the standard position is to not do anything unless there's a reason---any reason, however weak---to do it.

Main problems are that the only times it illicits emotion is the few times when it's unintentionally funny and the more common exclamations of "What!?" and "Bullshit!". The rest is just very boring (if it wasn't boring I wouldn't have been yelling those whats and bullshits on the screen, cause then I wouldn't need to find things to do to pass the time).

There's more but I've gotta get to uni now.
 
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