I have to agree, and not only on the atmosphere!
Hint: I suck at them too
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Nintendo Downloads - December 2013
- Thread starter tolkir
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He he, I think I know where you're stuck
1) you CAN link 2 3DS to the same Club Nintendo account.
2) you CAN'T link a NNID on 2 3DS. Which means you can only access Miiverse on 1 3DS, unless you make another ID for the 2nd 3DS.
Yes, this pretty much. Plus the "it's trash because not cheap enough!!"
I already know someone will pull the idiotic defense force card again and claim I'm saying everything is peachy and they can shove that right where the sun don't shine.
Glass Rebel
Member
I can only talk about the 3DS but if it weren't for the Level-5 sale I'd be very disappointed. Aside from Art of Balance and Mutant Mudds (which I didn't like) it's just really unexciting stuff and worst of all, no Nintendo game whatsoever.
GeekyDad
Member
Yeah, I can't stress enough that anyone who hasn't yet nabbed Crimson Shroud really needs to do so while it's on sale. Best $5 I've spent in...I don't know when.
Undead Bokun
Member
Can't connect to the eshop on the 3DS. Keep getting error 005 4240. Anyone else having issues? The status page says it is up and running. Wanted to add this eShop card and grab some of the sale titles...
Glass Rebel
Member
I don't think anybody is "losing their shit". It's fairly easy to be disappointed in Nintendo's handling of the eShop, especially if you consider what the competition is doing. It's quite frankly the worst among the relevant stores.
GeekyDad
Member
Eh...I don't know if I agree with that completely. I will say I'm less than completely satisfied with eShop and wish it were more like Steam in terms of its account system and iOS in terms of its sales, but objectively, I look at Nintendo's handling of their online service, and it seems like they're going at a speed that suits the niche they're so desperately clinging to. That doesn't cater to me (or most of us perhaps) wholly, but it seems to be what works for them at this point in time.
Gotta give them some credit, though. At least they do have sales now. When the services first came online, there was no indication they would do anything similar to other downloadable services, and they were still using the refrigerator mindset. They're a "baby steps" kinda company in some respects. At least they're walking now.
I wonder if we end up hearing about GBA & N64 VC games tomorrow. I think we'll get at least an announcement ("GBA & N64 are coming in early 2014"). Interestingly, there are no Wii U VC games scheduled for this week. This could also imply that they plan to release something directly after the Nintendo Direct stream (which happened with Mega Man 1-4, for example). My guess would be Super Mario Bros. 3. Additionally, I think they are going to talk about the next Wii Sports Club game (probably Golf). And there's the slim chance that Bayonetta 1 will be announced for early 2014, too.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Lots of people love Crimson shroud. I found it good until I was stuck in the cave, having to kill skeletons in a certain order in order to drop stuff to allow to pass through a confessionnal. More or less. The damned thing never dropped. I killed them at least 14 times. I am not kidding. So IMO, this game is really stupid. This particular idea of game design totaly ruined the game for me...
I suspect so.
Glass Rebel
Member
As much as Nintendo wants it to, they don't exist in a vacuum and comparisons to other shops are going to be made. It's the same with Origin and the comparisons to Steam. The eShop will be judged by the standards of 2013, not 2005.
But what's the criteria? How low third party publishers are willing to go with their prices when they decide to do sales?
GeekyDad
Member
You're kinda making my point for me. They don't exist in a vacuum, and Steam and other comparisons don't apply, really, to Nintendo. They're catering to very different audiences. If you consider the Steam audience when criticizing Nintendo's online service, then yeah, you have a valid argument. But it would seem ridiculous for Nintendo to take that approach to marketing and product offerings, etc., etc. They're considering their audience, and again, I think they're going at the speed that's right for them. They're not trying to catch up with Steam, PSN, or XBLA; they're trying to stay in pace with their audience. Smart. It's the same reason why they continue to offer the selection of games they do, rather than conforming to some notion they should grow with their audience. Nope. They do a certain selection of games well, and more and more kids (and grown-ups) flock to their products and services.
Glass Rebel
Member
My personal criteria? From the perspective of a consumer?
Frequency
How often are there sales? This is obvious and I do think Nintendo has sales relatively often. Not as often as Steam, obviously, but the eShop has had its fair share of sales in the 8 months I've owned a 3DS.
Promotion and visibility
When there's a sale on Steam or even Xbox Live it's like an event. When there's a sale on the eShop it's like someone letting off a wet fart in the woods and a handful of people noticing. I think they do a terrible job at it and it has also to do with how their store interface is set up.
Range of titles on sale
It's probably too much to expect a store-wide sale like Steam or even the crazy stuff that happens on iOS and Google Play but look at last years XBL sale. There's a wide range of games from indie stuff to retail releases like Skyrim, Modern Warfare, Red Dead Redemption. For consoles this is pretty damn great. Same goes for Sony.
Savings and price curves
Less money spent is obviously better for the consumer but it's a bit more complex than that. It's to be expected that older titles should (generally) see sharper sales and that their regular price should also drop over time. I haven't really looked at general trends on the eShop so I won't comment on it. I have seen many titles have their regular price reduced, which is a good thing.
However, in the case of Nintendo, who is not only the platform holder but also provides a sizeable chunk of the software available for both of their devices, it's pretty bad. They are extremely reluctant to put their own software on sale or even reduce their regular price over time. It's ridiculous that games from the 3DS' first year are still full priced on the eShop.
Maybe it's smart, maybe it's not. Fact is, other companies have been doing this for much longer than Nintendo has and attractive sales have shown to not only drive new consumers to your platform but also breathe fresh life into legacy titles. I don't know if Nintendo's approach is working for them or not but when I can get retail games for less than half the eShop price, I'm not going to think twice.
Boy Wander
Member
I don't really get people bitching about the e-Shop. Certainly I prefer it to both XBLA (360) and PSN (PS3). I find it really simple to navigate and if, for example, I want to find out what is on sale, I go to the 'On Sale' icon. Maybe I'm oversimplifying things but I find it really simple to use and really easy to find what I want.
GeekyDad
Member
Well, think of like this: Would you want to attract a biker gang to a fine-dining restaurant with an award-winning chef? Like I said, their audience is their biggest consideration.
But I'll leave you with this: Nintendo ain't hurtin', so they must be doing something right.
Conrad Link
Member
Come on Nintendo, announce Mario 3 release date for Wii U and 3DS and if have your NNID's linked and you purchase one you get the other.... for the upgrade discount price.
Meeting you in the middle here Nintendo, come on. >_>
Meeting you in the middle here Nintendo, come on. >_>
Bike Rider DX 2 looks neat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Gl2GPTZeg&feature=youtu.be
charlequin
Banned
I'm loving the game overall, but this particular design decision just completely boggled me, especially since there's no real way to tell that you're supposed to do that without looking it up.
20-40% off stuff that's gonna be 60-90% off on other platforms during their Xmas deals is not a real sale.
Nintendo's target audience are people who hate buying things and don't like saving money?
Errrrrrrrrrrrr.
kobashi100
Banned
just downloaded this and Afterburner II 3D.
this is out in japan now. looks pretty cool
Swords & Darkness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na9atL1eIYk
Haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, so I guess it's worth making a post about it.
As announced by Nintendo a long time ago, PC-Engine titles are headed to 3DS. Gradius (500 Yen) will be released in Japan next week. Additionally, PC-Engine & MSX games are coming to Wii U. It will get Parodius (MSX, 800 Yen) and Bonk's Adventure (PC Engine, 600 Yen). I wonder if that means we'll hear about GBA & N64 today! One can dream, right?
As announced by Nintendo a long time ago, PC-Engine titles are headed to 3DS. Gradius (500 Yen) will be released in Japan next week. Additionally, PC-Engine & MSX games are coming to Wii U. It will get Parodius (MSX, 800 Yen) and Bonk's Adventure (PC Engine, 600 Yen). I wonder if that means we'll hear about GBA & N64 today! One can dream, right?
Next week on VC Heaven
(Update ??:??, 12/25)
Wii U | Virtual Console
Nintendo 3DS | eShop Original Software, Downloadable Content and Demos
Nintendo 3DS | Virtual Console
Wii U | Virtual Console
- Super Mario Bros. 3 (Nintendo | Famicom | ¥500)
- PC Genjin <Bonk's Adventure> (Konami | PC-Engine | ¥600)
- Parodius (Konami | MSX | ¥800)
Nintendo 3DS | eShop Original Software, Downloadable Content and Demos
- Mystery Murders: Jack the Ripper (Circle Ent. | ¥800)
- SpeedX 3D Hyper Edition (Teyon | ¥300)
- The Legend of Zelda: Kamigami no Triforce 2 <The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds> (Nintendo | ¥4,800) Upcoming (12/26)
Nintendo 3DS | Virtual Console
- RockMan X2: Soul Eraser <Mega Man Xtreme 2> (Capcom | Game Boy Color | ¥600)
- Puyo Puyo Tsu (SEGA | Game Gear | ¥400)
- Gradius (Konami | PC-Engine | ¥600)
- The Kung Fu <China Warrior> (Konami | PC-Engine | ¥600)
Its Nintendo logic. Its Xmas, people will be busy playing with their new Nintendo mahjong set. No need to release VC between now and feb 2014.
Please be N64 VC, dear Santa
To be honest, I don't care about much about GBA and N64 VC (except on 3DS, I guess). What really interests me is the GC VC, but it's pretty apparent that Iwata really jumped the gun BIG TIME during the E3 2011 conference. I don't think we're ever gonna see any GC Virtual Console games on Wii U
I'm browsing the Japanese 3DS eShop right now. They have a lot of '2013 Ranking' lists. It seems like Beril's Gunman Clive (which is called Gunman Story in Japan) was quite successful! It made it to the sixth place in the category 'eShop Ranking 2013', which lists eShop only games.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Nintendo have to manually change prices whenever there is a sale*. Its not like Steam where they flick and x% off switch (sometimes flicking the wrong one).
*-Evidence. 20% off the Denpa Men in Europe. In the UK they used the Euro numbers which meant it was more like 11% off. The only way that could happen is with manual input (this also suggests they need to do this for each country too as repetition is the only way I can see such an error being made).
*-Evidence. 20% off the Denpa Men in Europe. In the UK they used the Euro numbers which meant it was more like 11% off. The only way that could happen is with manual input (this also suggests they need to do this for each country too as repetition is the only way I can see such an error being made).
I wonder who is emulating the PC Engine games. Hudson USAs demise probably put these on a back burner as I think they handled Wii VC versions (I think they used Blackbone bot Konami might have someone different in mind)
Glass Rebel
Member
I think Nintendo can't be picky about their audience right now and there is no way for the biker gang to disturb their other guests either way
On both eShop, from what I've seen, discounts are there, definitive price reduction are there, lighting deals as well (remember MH3U?), and even some deals on first party eShop titles. However, they still lack deals on Nintendo retail titles, that's the major problem. Yep, it's mindblowing to release Nintendogs on eShop at...44.99, the same price as launch. They have to change this policy in the future.
I think I have some kind of idea regarding how to proceed, but I don't know how to pull it off. I'm not going to check a guide yet, solving it myself will probably feel very satisfying!
I'm stuck atHe he, I think I know where you're stuck
the part where you find an alien for the first time. I have access to a couple of chemical substances, and apparently I need to create a powerful mixture I read about in some files, but there's nowhere in sight where I can mix them.
So....no Direct for Canada?
And 25 fps.
Conrad Link
Member
Sigh, Nintendo want us to pay twice for the same digital VC game released on two of their systems on the same day. Not even a deal sweetner or incentive discount.
I never expect free out of you but I thought they'd at least allow us an 'upgrade price'.
"lol you own both our systems? That's your problem buddy not ours, full price x2 please."
:|
I never expect free out of you but I thought they'd at least allow us an 'upgrade price'.
"lol you own both our systems? That's your problem buddy not ours, full price x2 please."
:|
Technically it's half price x2 for the first week
oh is that what it was :O
I saw SMB DX on the JP stream but just assumed they were selling it normally on VC. That's cool, hope we get it too at some point.
Link to the European direct in the Mario Bros Deluxe part