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hongcha · Mar 20, 2013

I think Vita will stabilize around 30K, increasing significantly in the weeks ahead where there are some big releases. 3DS will continue to do at least double that every week and the two handhelds will coexist peacefully for years to come, albeit in different realms of the gaming market.

Vita has a solid release schedule throughout this year with new games getting announced nearly every day it seems -- the PSP releases are clearly fading away and shifting into Vita releases. Ditto with the 3DS, which has an even stronger line up in terms of heavy hitters. I'm really happy I own both handhelds. So much gaming goodness on the way!

zroid · Mar 20, 2013

Gonzo The Great said:
Disastrous Wii U performance, but things can only get better from here. Nintendo needs to announce another direct as soon as humanly possibly.

Another Direct won't change anything in the short term, and they're set for the long term on the first party front. What they need is actual games to come out.

We'll know in two weeks how that works out for them.

saichi · Mar 20, 2013

metalslimer said:
If Sony manages to pull off an exclusivity deal for FF Versus as 15 as a launch window title could PS4 still manage a 40k yen lauch ok?

I'm not sure if a mainline FF title would be a great launch title considering how frontload FF series has become. It would definitely ended up being the lowest selling main FF title by a mile.

Soriku said:
All but. The credits in KH1.5 showed KH2, BBS, and Coded. Pretty obvious it was a hint towards the next collection. Not to mention the point of these Remixes is to have all KH games on one console (instead of spread out on 80 different ones).

KH3 on PS3 announcement coming ;-)

hongcha said:
I think Vita will stabilize around 30K, increasing significantly in the weeks ahead where there are some big releases.

what big releases?

Lexxism · Mar 20, 2013

Supermanisdead said:
Kingdom Hearts can't even clock a #1 anymore. Outsold by a Twilight anime game. How embarrassing. KH is the Nicki Minaj of video games. #oop

Cool

Soriku · Mar 20, 2013

saichi said:
KH3 on PS3 announcement coming ;-)

I honestly wouldn't be that surprised.

ohlawd · Mar 20, 2013

Kusagari said:
Kirito clearly made the wrong choice and should have went the imouto route.

I so would if Sugu was my imouto.

Pyscho_Mantis said:
someone please tell me this ia a joke.

Father_Brain · Mar 20, 2013

hongcha said:
I think Vita will stabilize around 30K, increasing significantly in the weeks ahead where there are some big releases. 3DS will continue to do at least double that every week and the two handhelds will coexist peacefully for years to come, albeit in different realms of the gaming market.

Vita has a solid release schedule throughout this year with new games getting announced nearly every day it seems -- the PSP releases are clearly fading away and shifting into Vita releases. Ditto with the 3DS, which has an even stronger line up in terms of heavy hitters. I'm really happy I own both handhelds. So much gaming goodness on the way!

A 30K baseline is not even remotely possible without a major shift in support from the bigger third parties, not just niche publishers (from whom nearly all the recent Vita software announcements have come), and there's nothing that suggests this is at all likely.

And beaten, but what "big releases?"

metalslimer said:
in what universe is the release schedule healthy?
There is not a single upcoming game that can break 150k. I would say 100k but im being generous to the vita god eater and ff hd ports

Yeah, this.

Dr. Feel Good · Mar 20, 2013

hongcha said:
I think Vita will stabilize around 30K, increasing significantly in the weeks ahead where there are some big releases. 3DS will continue to do at least double that every week and the two handhelds will coexist peacefully for years to come, albeit in different realms of the gaming market.

Vita has a solid release schedule throughout this year with new games getting announced nearly every day it seems -- the PSP releases are clearly fading away and shifting into Vita releases. Ditto with the 3DS, which has an even stronger line up in terms of heavy hitters. I'm really happy I own both handhelds. So much gaming goodness on the way!

What is this? You're basically saying that the Vita which was seen as being on life support about a month ago, has successfully transitioned itself into an incredibly healthy platform. Even though it took a half dozen decent games, a price cut, hardware bundles, and new system colors to even significantly impact it's weekly sell through . Every card has been played with nothing left in sight, and this weeks sale already show it won't maintain 30k a week. What the hell are you smoking?

namDa65 · Mar 20, 2013

Dr. Feel Good said:
What is this? You're basically saying that the Vita which was seen as being on life support about a month ago, has successfully transitioned itself into an incredibly healthy platform. Even though it took a half dozen decent games, a price cut, hardware bundles, and new system colors to even significantly impact it's weekly sell through . Every card has been played with nothing left in sight, and this weeks sale already show it won't maintain 30k a week. What the hell are you smoking?

Stop ruining my dreams :'(.

Psycho_Mantis · Mar 20, 2013

ohlawd said:
I so would if Sugu was my imouto.

Banjoman · Mar 20, 2013

because of this thread I feel like I need to do some ero-ero things with Sugu again, after all these months.
damn you, gaf.

test_account · Mar 20, 2013

Dr. Feel Good said:
What is this? You're basically saying that the Vita which was seen as being on life support about a month ago, has successfully transitioned itself into an incredibly healthy platform. Even though it took a half dozen decent games, a price cut, hardware bundles, and new system colors to even significantly impact it's weekly sell through . Every card has been played with nothing left in sight, and this weeks sale already show it won't maintain 30k a week. What the hell are you smoking?

Whats with the attitude?

donny2112 · Mar 20, 2013

schuelma said:
Come on people. Let's not completely lose it.

They're learning. It's a new gen of Sales-Agers.

metalslimer · Mar 20, 2013

in what universe is the release schedule healthy?
There is not a single upcoming game that can break 150k. I would say 100k but im being generous to the vita god eater and ff hd ports

Dr. Feel Good · Mar 20, 2013

test_account said:
Whats with the attitude?

Didn't mean to come off with attitude in that post, so i apologize (god knows ive had my fair share of dumb predictions) but the evidence is right in the OP to debunk his claim. Even after one week of Soul Sacrifice we can clearly see that a 30k can not be maintained.

saichi · Mar 20, 2013

test_account said:
Whats with the attitude?

Mötley Crüe

EDIT:

kobashi100 said:
what the hell do Soy do next when the Vita sales drop town to 15k per week as its gonna happen soon.

announce SS2 and another 5K yen price cut for next year.

kobashi100 · Mar 20, 2013

what the hell do Soy do next when the Vita sales drop town to 15k per week as its gonna happen soon.

metalslimer · Mar 20, 2013

kobashi100 said:
what the hell do Soy do next when the Vita sales drop town to 15k per week as its gonna happen soon.

Same thing Nintendo is doing with wiiu right now

SlipperySlope · Mar 20, 2013

Poetic.Injustice said:
What's so ridiculous about it? Monster hunter basically resurrected the PSP in Japan. Isn't it possible for SS to do the same for Vita?

This week just confirmed that no, it's not possible...

Sakura · Mar 20, 2013

Poetic.Injustice said:
What's so ridiculous about it? Monster hunter basically resurrected the PSP in Japan. Isn't it possible for SS to do the same for Vita?

I know MH did lots for the PSP, but come on, resurrected? Was the PSP ever as in as bad a place as the Vita?

Father_Brain · Mar 20, 2013

metalslimer said:
Same thing Nintendo is doing with wiiu right now

Wait, what is Nintendo doing with Wii U?

...oh.

Psycho_Mantis · Mar 20, 2013

SlipperySlope said:
This week just confirmed that no, it's not possible...

Not really. SS just has to around 30k for a few months lol. Yeah the possibility is slim.

jeremy1456 · Mar 20, 2013

metalslimer said:
in what universe is the release schedule healthy?
There is not a single upcoming game that can break 150k. I would say 100k but im being generous to the vita god eater and ff hd ports

This is the same universe where Soul Sacrifice is suddenly going to be an evergreen title and sell 30k a week for the next few years.

Bruno MB · Mar 20, 2013

Code:

-------------------------------------------------------------
|    |   [B]AC: Wild World[/B]  |   [B]AC: New Leaf[/B]    |  [B]Difference[/B]  |
|    | [NDS] (2005/11/23)| [3DS] (2012/11/08)|              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |AC:NL - AC:WW |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  1 |  335.425|  335.425|  721.786|  721.786|       386.361|
|  2 |  142.869|  478.294|  315.317|1.037.103|       558.809|
|  3 |  116.965|  595.259|  237.823|1.274.926|       679.667|  
|  4 |  192.571|  787.830|  118.898|1.393.824|       605.994| 
|  5 |  381.927|1.169.757|  115.556|1.509.380|       339.623|  
|  6 |  169.795|1.339.552|  213.329|1.722.709|       383.157|  
|  7 |  152.339|1.491.891|  400.320|2.123.029|       631.138|  
|  8 |   64.242|1.556.133|  163.948|2.286.977|       730.844|  
|  9 |   89.892|1.646.025|  135.971|2.422.948|       776.923| 
| 10 |   93.443|1.739.468|   86.926|2.509.874|       770.406|
| 11 |   69.401|1.808.869|   97.808|2.607.682|       798.813|
| 12 |   55.169|1.864.038|   83.226|2.690.908|       826.870|
| 13 |   53.594|1.917.632|   76.039|2.766.947|       849.315|
| 14 |   57.383|1.975.015|   90.652|2.857.599|       882.584|
| 15 |   88.709|2.063.724|   76.747|2.934.346|       870.622|
| 16 |   93.508|2.157.232|   77.709|3.012.055|       854.823|
| 17 |   88.292|2.245.524|   76.075|3.088.130|       842.606|
| 18 |  101.839|2.347.363|   69.124|3.157.254|       809.891|
| 19 |   95.034|2.442.397|   60.736|3.217.990|       775.593|
| 20 |   68.889|2.511.286|         |         |              |
| 21 |   49.596|2.560.882|         |         |              |
| 22 |   40.608|2.601.490|         |         |              |
| 23 |        -|        -|         |         |              |
| 24 |        -|2.713.688|         |         |              |
| 25 |   30.887|2.744.575|         |         |              |
| 26 |   31.802|2.776.377|         |         |              |
| 27 |   36.245|2.812.622|         |         |              |
| 28 |   30.319|2.842.941|         |         |              |
| 29 |   29.343|2.872.284|         |         |              |
| 30 |   29.525|2.901.809|         |         |              |
| 31 |   24.808|2.926.617|         |         |              |
| 32 |   23.200|2.949.817|         |         |              |
| 33 |   20.480|2.970.297|         |         |              |
| 34 |   17.968|2.988.265|         |         |              |
| 35 |   25.361|3.013.626|         |         |              |
| 36 |   21.083|3.034.709|         |         |              |
| 37 |   21.501|3.056.210|         |         |              |
| 38 |        -|        -|         |         |              |
| 39 |        -|3.115.414|         |         |              |
| 40 |   21.492|3.136.906|         |         |              |
| 41 |   22.565|3.159.471|         |         |              |
| 42 |   18.772|3.178.243|         |         |              |
| 43 |   20.634|3.198.877|         |         |              |
| 44 |   20.447|3.219.324|         |         |              |
| 45 |   19.713|3.239.037|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Year|   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   |  Difference  |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  1 |1.169.757|1.169.757|2.286.977|2.286.997|     1.117.240|
|  2 |2.485.264|3.665.021|  930.993|3.217.990|      -447.031|
|  3 |  858.501|4.513.522|        -|        -|             -|
|  4 |  338.531|4.852.053|        -|        -|             -|
|  5 |  258.996|5.111.049|        -|        -|             -|
|  6 |   46.432|5.157.481|        -|        -|             -|
|  7 |   37.181|5.194.662|        -|        -|             -|     
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| LTD|        -|5.194.662|        -|3.217.990|    -1.976.672|     
-------------------------------------------------------------

AranhaHunter · Mar 20, 2013

I know it's probably been asked before but which tracker is the most accurate? I think gfk covers like 90% of the UK retail market, do we know something similar for MC and Famitsu? Some of these difference can be attributed to margin of error like the NDS, Wii, and WiiU. However, some of these have a difference greater than 100K, IMO, that's a problem. The difference in the tracking for the PSP is almost half a million.

Code:

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|System | Media Create         |     Famitsu        |      MC - Famitsu Difference |      
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 3DS # |     10.894.742       |     10.950.402     |      -55660                  |
|  PSV  |      1.394.016       |      1.328.323     |      +66693                  |
|  PS3  |      9.121.987       |      8.992.565     |     +129422                  | 
| PSP # |     19.813.837       |     19.367.289     |     +446458                  |     
|  WIU  |        820.020       |        829.112     |       -9092                  |
|  WII  |     12.661.523       |     12.684.763     |      -23240                  |
|  360  |      1.622.174       |      1.594.087     |      +28087                  |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |     56.328.299       |     77.730.965     |   -21402666                  |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  PS2  |     21,833,216       |     21.979.336     |     -146120                  |
|  NDS  |     32,877,455       |     32.863.795     |      +13660                  |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think the "ALL" in the OP is wrong but I kept it there anyway.

donny2112 · Mar 20, 2013

Kenka said:
shouldn't we, as sales-agers, be happy that a cultural phenomenon is born and whose execution in video game form is warmly welcomed ?

From a totally dispassionate view, maybe, but we don't completely check our passions at the door, just because we're talking about sales, even though most try to not let their emotions get in the way of discussion. We're more than automatons discussing dry numbers. We discuss because we care about the subject matter, so that's going to seep in to how we feel about the results and how we post.

Dr. Feel Good · Mar 20, 2013

In terms of comparing historical data and stuffing was under the impression it makes more sense to use Famitsu because we have more complete data from them over the years.

bigtroyjon · Mar 20, 2013

AranhaHunter said:

I know it's probably been asked before but which tracker is the most accurate? I think gfk covers like 90% of the UK retail market, do we know something similar for MC and Famitsu? Some of these difference can be attributed to margin of error like the NDS, Wii, and WiiU. However, some of these have a difference greater than 100K, IMO, that's a problem. The difference in the tracking for the PSP is almost half a million.

Code:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|System | Media Create         |     Famitsu        |      MC - Famitsu Difference |      
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 3DS # |     10.894.742       |     10.950.402     |      -55660                  |
|  PSV  |      1.394.016       |      1.328.323     |      +66693                  |
|  PS3  |      9.121.987       |      8.992.565     |     +129422                  | 
| PSP # |     19.813.837       |     19.367.289     |     +446458                  |     
|  WIU  |        820.020       |        829.112     |       -9092                  |
|  WII  |     12.661.523       |     12.684.763     |      -23240                  |
|  360  |      1.622.174       |      1.594.087     |      +28087                  |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |     56.328.299       |     77.730.965     |   -21402666                  |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  PS2  |     21,833,216       |     21.979.336     |     -146120                  |
|  NDS  |     32,877,455       |     32.863.795     |      +13660                  |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think the "ALL" in the OP is wrong but I kept it there anyway.

Interesting that MC has all the current Sony platforms higher and all the current Nintendo platforms lower. Add in the 360 being higher and I suspect they have a store or two included that lean towards a more western audience.

Mpl90 · Mar 20, 2013

Bruno MB said:

Code:

-------------------------------------------------------------
|    |   [B]AC: Wild World[/B]  |   [B]AC: New Leaf[/B]    |  [B]Difference[/B]  |
|    | [NDS] (2005/11/23)| [3DS] (2012/11/08)|              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |AC:NL - AC:WW |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  1 |  335.425|  335.425|  721.786|  721.786|       386.361|
|  2 |  142.869|  478.294|  315.317|1.037.103|       558.809|
|  3 |  116.965|  595.259|  237.823|1.274.926|       679.667|  
|  4 |  192.571|  787.830|  118.898|1.393.824|       605.994| 
|  5 |  381.927|1.169.757|  115.556|1.509.380|       339.623|  
|  6 |  169.795|1.339.552|  213.329|1.722.709|       383.157|  
|  7 |  152.339|1.491.891|  400.320|2.123.029|       631.138|  
|  8 |   64.242|1.556.133|  163.948|2.286.977|       730.844|  
|  9 |   89.892|1.646.025|  135.971|2.422.948|       776.923| 
| 10 |   93.443|1.739.468|   86.926|2.509.874|       770.406|
| 11 |   69.401|1.808.869|   97.808|2.607.682|       798.813|
| 12 |   55.169|1.864.038|   83.226|2.690.908|       826.870|
| 13 |   53.594|1.917.632|   76.039|2.766.947|       849.315|
| 14 |   57.383|1.975.015|   90.652|2.857.599|       882.584|
| 15 |   88.709|2.063.724|   76.747|2.934.346|       870.622|
| 16 |   93.508|2.157.232|   77.709|3.012.055|       854.823|
| 17 |   88.292|2.245.524|   76.075|3.088.130|       842.606|
| 18 |  101.839|2.347.363|   69.124|3.157.254|       809.891|
| 19 |   95.034|2.442.397|   60.736|3.217.990|       775.593|
| 20 |   68.889|2.511.286|         |         |              |
| 21 |   49.596|2.560.882|         |         |              |
| 22 |   40.608|2.601.490|         |         |              |
| 23 |        -|        -|         |         |              |
| 24 |        -|2.713.688|         |         |              |
| 25 |   30.887|2.744.575|         |         |              |
| 26 |   31.802|2.776.377|         |         |              |
| 27 |   36.245|2.812.622|         |         |              |
| 28 |   30.319|2.842.941|         |         |              |
| 29 |   29.343|2.872.284|         |         |              |
| 30 |   29.525|2.901.809|         |         |              |
| 31 |   24.808|2.926.617|         |         |              |
| 32 |   23.200|2.949.817|         |         |              |
| 33 |   20.480|2.970.297|         |         |              |
| 34 |   17.968|2.988.265|         |         |              |
| 35 |   25.361|3.013.626|         |         |              |
| 36 |   21.083|3.034.709|         |         |              |
| 37 |   21.501|3.056.210|         |         |              |
| 38 |        -|        -|         |         |              |
| 39 |        -|3.115.414|         |         |              |
| 40 |   21.492|3.136.906|         |         |              |
| 41 |   22.565|3.159.471|         |         |              |
| 42 |   18.772|3.178.243|         |         |              |
| 43 |   20.634|3.198.877|         |         |              |
| 44 |   20.447|3.219.324|         |         |              |
| 45 |   19.713|3.239.037|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Year|   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   |  Difference  |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  1 |1.169.757|1.169.757|2.286.977|2.286.997|     1.117.240|
|  2 |2.485.264|3.665.021|  930.993|3.217.990|      -447.031|
|  3 |  858.501|4.513.522|        -|        -|             -|
|  4 |  338.531|4.852.053|        -|        -|             -|
|  5 |  258.996|5.111.049|        -|        -|             -|
|  6 |   46.432|5.157.481|        -|        -|             -|
|  7 |   37.181|5.194.662|        -|        -|             -|     
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| LTD|        -|5.194.662|        -|3.217.990|    -1.976.672|     
-------------------------------------------------------------

Probably the difference will increase again since WW came out later, so the comparison is including how it sold during Golden Week 2006 period.

And this don't include the 400k sold directly from eShop, though...

@AranhaHunter: IIRC, the main difference hardware wise between Famitsu and MC is due to different weeks count.

Raist · Mar 20, 2013

What are people's thoughts on SS? It sold alright (for a vita title) and moved some hardware, but it's hard not to compare to MH which makes it... rather weak.

Etzer · Mar 20, 2013

Wow, I had no idea SAO was hated so much. I only watched the first few episodes of the anime and thought it was OK. :/

donny2112 · Mar 20, 2013

lunchwithyuzo said:
Yeah, it's getting a bit late for April. Unless we have a surprise Direct this week we can probably rule it out.

April? Who cares? We have a much bigger holiday that Nintendo is all prepped for with Game & Wario and DQX. EASTER!

Kangi · Mar 20, 2013

hongcha said:
I think Vita will stabilize around 30K, increasing significantly in the weeks ahead where there are some big releases.

Yeah... I don't see anything that will keep Vita up.

It got a boost from pretty much its most anticipated title ever. Second week it's dropped to nearly half and you think it will just... stay there?

Sub-10k again within a few weeks, I'm gonna go ahead and predict.

test_account · Mar 20, 2013

Dr. Feel Good said:
Didn't mean to come off with attitude in that post, so i apologize (god knows ive had my fair share of dumb predictions) but the evidence is right in the OP to debunk his claim. Even after one week of Soul Sacrifice we can clearly see that a 30k can not be maintained.

No problem, it was just the way it was said that i reacted on, not the disagreement

A 30k baseline might not look likely, but who knows how the market will react exactly in the upcoming months.

saichi said:
Mötley Crüe

Do they have a song called that? Sorry, i only know the name of the group

I dont know much of their songs etc..

Sakura said:
I know MH did lots for the PSP, but come on, resurrected? Was the PSP ever as in as bad a place as the Vita?

No, the PSP was doing better, but there were some predictions that the PSP would end up selling like maybe 7-8 million or so overall. Now it will pass 20 million.

donny2112 · Mar 20, 2013

AranhaHunter said:
Here's a list of games that are not system sellers IMO, for various reasons, but are decent SW that could keep HW sales stable:

3/20 - One Piece 2
3/20 - Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2013
3/28 - Oboro Muramasa
5/23 - Valhalla Knights 3
TBD - God Eater 2
TBD - FFX
TBD - FFX-2
TBD - Jump

There is a BIG gap of almost 2 months with no significant software.

Isn't that like the same gap that Wii U has now? :O The same guy doing the Wii U schedule is doing the Vita schedule!

DGRE · Mar 20, 2013

Why is everyone suddenly not counting the double pack this week?

The drop for SS is definitely closer to 80%.

Mpl90 · Mar 20, 2013

donny2112 said:
Isn't that like the same gap that Wii U has now? :O The same guy doing the Wii U schedule is doing the Vita schedule!

And people said Nintendo never copied anything from Sony.

Bruno MB · Mar 20, 2013

DGRE said:
Why is everyone suddenly not counting the double pack this week?

The drop for SS is definitely closer to 80%.

Because no one knows what it sold since it is out of the Top 20.

frankie_baby · Mar 20, 2013

Bruno MB said:
Because no one knows what it sold since it is out of the Top 20.

we may get a clearer guess if it appears in the top 50

test_account · Mar 20, 2013

Raist said:
What are people's thoughts on SS? It sold alright (for a vita title) and moved some hardware, but it's hard not to compare to MH which makes it... rather weak.

The theme of Soul Sacrifice would limit the sales potential from day one, in my opinion. I think it is more closer to God Eater in that terms rather than a more broader appeal like Monster Hunter.

DGRE said:
Why is everyone suddenly not counting the double pack this week?

The drop for SS is definitely closer to 80%.

As other have mentioned, the double pack isnt in Top 20 Media Create, so we dont know exactly how much it sold.

Famitsu includes the double pack in their number and the drop is 75%. Probably something similar in the Media Create numbers as well i guess if they didnt count the double pack seperately.

EDIT: Amazon has now a few (11 to be precise) double packs in stock again. I still wonder if is a limited release or a release that is going to contunie to be manufactured.

Verendus · Mar 20, 2013

Wii U. Oh lord. I can't stop laughing.

PSV is out of the trenches for the moment, but it'll probably be on the way back soon.

electroplankton · Mar 20, 2013

hongcha said:
I think Vita will stabilize around 30K, increasing significantly in the weeks ahead where there are some big releases. 3DS will continue to do at least double that every week and the two handhelds will coexist peacefully for years to come, albeit in different realms of the gaming market.

Vita has a solid release schedule throughout this year with new games getting announced nearly every day it seems -- the PSP releases are clearly fading away and shifting into Vita releases. Ditto with the 3DS, which has an even stronger line up in terms of heavy hitters. I'm really happy I own both handhelds. So much gaming goodness on the way!

Unfortunately, Vita does not have a solid release schedule at all, in 2013. Problem also is that the main games will be released all aimed at the same audience that might well be already present on the platform.

bigtroyjon · Mar 20, 2013

Mpl90 said:
@AranhaHunter: IIRC, the main difference hardware wise between Famitsu and MC is due to different weeks count.

Those numbers are for lifetime sales.

shinra-bansho · Mar 20, 2013

Where on earth is this ridiculous notion that Vita will stabilize around where it is now come from? It's just utter nonsense.

Also, is someone actually suggesting Injustice will Wii Us in Japan?

Failing systems really bring out the cray cray.

Skyzard · Mar 20, 2013

SmokyDave said:
Oh yeah, talk dirty to me.

Haha.

sechsterangriff said:
Hopefully SS will get some good word of mouth and gain some legs. That would keep hardware sales at a good baseline.

Magicpaint said:
You know, it doesn't have to 'fail' even if it doesn't become 'the next Monster Hunter'. Though I think it's too early to say. The small Vita userbase has to have some crippling effects to its potential but if it can maintain a reasonable baseline week over week and strong word of mouth it could do really well in the long run. It has already started pretty well for a new IP anyway.

Seems like 14-20K is a reasonable expectation with the what games are coming out and thanks to the price drop/SS blitz as well. I'm hoping for ~~25-28K~~ 30K next week for Vita hardware.

Do we have any idea of how stores' stock of Vita and SS is doing in Japan?

saichi said:
There are very few example of a series with 250K first game in a new IP then become a million seller (or even 500K seller) later in Japan.

RE: VITA 20K-25K baseline - While it could be considered "great" comparing to the previous baseline, it would be the same baseline where 3DS was selling when it was considered struggling and forced to take drastic actions to improve to appeal third parties.

There is a reputation that Nintendo gamers buy Nintendo games mostly, third party games like AC have shown that they can do well with the Vita even with its userbase. It also sells at a higher price, which helps Sony.

schuelma · Mar 20, 2013

Skyzard said:
There is a reputation that Nintendo gamers buy Nintendo games mostly, t.

The DS and 3DS has made this statement factually incorrect.

electroplankton · Mar 20, 2013

Skyzard said:
There is a reputation that Nintendo gamers buy Nintendo games mostly, third party games like AC have shown that they can do well with the Vita even with its userbase. It also sells at a higher price, which helps Sony.

Probably you missed how well a lot of third party games are selling on 3DS.

big youth · Mar 20, 2013

shinra-bansho said:
Where on earth is this ridiculous notion that Vita will stabilize around where it is now come from? It's just utter nonsense.

Also, is someone actually suggesting Injustice will Wii Us in Japan?

Failing systems really bring out the cray cray.

I think it mostly has to do with whether someone has the failing console or not. if you own and enjoy Vita your blinders will be up to the reality of the situation.

I'd argue that Vita is in a worse situation today than it was 3 weeks ago. the hail mary that was SS is now in the past.

serplux · Mar 20, 2013

Skyzard said:
There is a reputation that Nintendo gamers buy Nintendo games mostly, third party games like AC have shown that they can do well with the Vita even with its userbase. It also sells at a higher price, which helps Sony.

We've already got two one-million sellers by third-parties on the 3DS. Harvest Moon, Etrian Odyssey, and Rune Factory all have their best-selling entries on the 3DS.

Skyzard · Mar 20, 2013

serplux said:
We've already got two one-million sellers by third-parties on the 3DS. Harvest Moon, Etrian Odyssey, and Rune Factory all have their best-selling entries on the 3DS.

I'm not saying that's how it is [for the 3DS, in Japan] but how many third parties did well when sales were at the initial 3DS baseline like the comment I was replying to was talking about.

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