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soul · Nov 19, 2007

During a Square Enix shareholders conference in Tokyo, Yoichi Wada, the current president of the company, has said that there's still no decesion of when to release Dragon Quest IX in Japan.

Source; http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20071119/sqex.htm

Quazar · Nov 19, 2007

Was that all that was talked about?

HomShaBom · Nov 19, 2007

They're realizing that the DS fad may be over.

duckroll · Nov 19, 2007

Quazar said:
Was that all that was talked about?

Yes. 50 guys sat on a round table, banging their cups on the table as Wada stood up and went "Dragon Quest IX's release date is still..... undecided."

ethelred · Nov 19, 2007

Quazar said:
Was that all that was talked about?

No, they also released financial numbers and I'm sure talked about a few other things as well. However, it looks like we're going to get a different thread for each topic.

soul · Nov 19, 2007

Quazar said:
Was that all that was talked about?

Just an important snippet. the rest is mostly sales, etc. some sales figures from Gamefront for those interested:

Japan
- Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII (PSP): 710.000 St.
- Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou (Wii): 490.000 St.
- Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates (NDS): 360.000 St.
- Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings (NDS): 530.000 St.
- Itadaki Street DS (NDS): 410.000 St.

Europa
- Final Fantasy III (NDS): 450.000 St.
- Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria (PS2): 170.000 St.

cw_sasuke · Nov 19, 2007

duckroll said:
Yes. 50 guys sat on a round table, banging their cups on the table as Wada stood up and went "Dragon Quest IX's release date is still..... undecided."

:lol

Lightning · Nov 19, 2007

Well... this is helpful. :lol

I thought Crisis Core had sold more then that.... Sad.

duckroll · Nov 19, 2007

ethelred said:
No, they also released financial numbers and I'm sure talked about a few other things as well. However, it looks like we're going to get a different thread for each topic.

So who's going to start the "Square Enix maintains they are not stopping development on White Engine" thread?

Balzac · Nov 19, 2007

The issue is probably that such a huge title would interfere with other potential heavy sellers of theirs.

They'll probably wait until a potentially lackluster quarter to drop the DQ bomb and even out earnings.

- Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou (Wii): 490.000 St.

Jesus christ. And that was just the FF Mystic Quest of DQ games.

cw_sasuke · Nov 19, 2007

holiday season 08 seems likely...depends also on the dq5/5 remakes...and if and when level want to release inazuma eleven...

Aeana · Nov 19, 2007

I wasn't expecting a date any time soon, anyway.

Magicpaint · Nov 19, 2007

Aeana said:
I wasn't expecting a date any time soon, anyway.

Nor was I.

I think we might get DQV and possibly DQVI before IX hits.

Balzac said:
Jesus christ. And that was just the FF Mystic Quest of DQ games.

What?

Lightning said:
I thought Crisis Core had sold more then that.... Sad.

Huh? So because you expected it to do more, its performance is somehow sad? Those are fantastic numbers for a FF spin-off.

Quazar · Nov 19, 2007

duckroll said:
Yes. 50 guys sat on a round table, banging their cups on the table as Wada stood up and went "Dragon Quest IX's release date is still..... undecided."

Funny

soul said:
Just an important snippet. the rest is mostly sales, etc. some sales figures from Gamefront for those interested:

Japan
- Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII (PSP): 710.000 St.
- Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou (Wii): 490.000 St.
- Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates (NDS): 360.000 St.
- Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings (NDS): 530.000 St.
- Itadaki Street DS (NDS): 410.000 St.

Europa
- Final Fantasy III (NDS): 450.000 St.
- Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria (PS2): 170.000 St.

Thanks for a real answer.

ethelred said:
No, they also released financial numbers and I'm sure talked about a few other things as well. However, it looks like we're going to get a different thread for each topic.

Which I was hoping to avoid.

ethelred · Nov 19, 2007

cw_sasuke said:
holiday season 08 seems likely...depends also on the dq5/5 remakes...and if and when level want to release inazuma eleven...

Square Enix doesn't give two fucks when Level-5 wants to release their stuff. Dragon Quest put them on the map; it takes priority over all.

duckroll said:
So who's going to start the "Square Enix maintains they are not stopping development on White Engine" thread?

I'll let you grab that one. I'm busy writing up the "Square Enix Shareholder Meeting: Yoichi Wada maintains he is not a crook" thread.

duckroll · Nov 19, 2007

ethelred said:
I'll let you grab that one. I'm busy writing up the "Square Enix Shareholder Meeting: Yoichi Wada maintains he is not a crook" thread.

No, I'm serious. One of the key points on the article was Wada refuting "persistant rumors" that the White Engine development was being terminated. He maintained it was bullshit and they're still at it.

Lightning · Nov 19, 2007

Magicpaint said:
Huh? So because you expected it to do more, its performance is somehow sad? Those are fantastic numbers for a FF spin-off.

Huh? The "Sad" comment represented how I feel as I want Crisis Core to break a million, it is an excellent game and definitely deserves to.

Magicpaint · Nov 19, 2007

Lightning said:
Huh? The "Sad" comment represented how I feel as I want Crisis Core to break a million, it is an excellent game and definitely deserves to.

I don't know about whether or not it 'deserves to', but regardless those numbers are still great.

John Harker · Nov 19, 2007

They said they wanted to release DQ 4-6 remakes first, no?
Id say don't hold your breath

neptunes · Nov 19, 2007

Magicpaint said:
Huh? So because you expected it to do more, its performance is somehow sad? Those are fantastic numbers for a FF spin-off.

I can't properly gauge whether or not it met SE's expectations because...I don't think they announced any sales goals for Crisis Core.

Not to mention we don't know how much was spent developing the game, but I'm assuming alot.

I wonder how much the NA sales will be? 100k-200k tops?

titiklabingapat · Nov 19, 2007

Are those shipments or actual sell throughs?

Riskbreaker23 · Nov 19, 2007

looks like SE cant decide on a release date for either of their next entry in their main franchises

duckroll · Nov 19, 2007

Riskbreaker23 said:
looks like SE cant decide on a release date for either of their next entry in their main franchises

And as long as the spinoffs keep selling, they won't have to.

Lightning · Nov 19, 2007

neptunes said:
I can't properly gauge whether or not it met SE's expectations because...I don't think they announced any sales goals for Crisis Core.

Not to mention we don't know how much was spent developing the game, but I'm assuming alot.

I wonder how much the NA sales will be? 100k-200k tops?

This game better sell better in the US then it did in Japan or there is something wrong. The userbase in the US is larger then the Japan userbase and action RPG's have done well in the US in the past. I don't see why this one should be any different. Anything under 1mil for the US as well will be extremely disappointing.

I have high expectations of Crisis Core. It had a great development team and they made a GREAT game.

Forgotten Ancient · Nov 19, 2007

John Harker said:
They said they wanted to release DQ 4-6 remakes first, no?
Id say don't hold your breath

I don't remember them saying that (not saying your wrong) but I would be absolutely happy with that. I've never had a chance to play V, and playing VI via emulator just wasn't the same. Having the second trilogy before IX would be an awesome build up for me.

Pureauthor · Nov 19, 2007

neptunes said:
I wonder how much the NA sales will be? 100k-200k tops?

If that happens (and I don't see any way it will), it'd be a massive bomb in NA.

Hcoregamer00 · Nov 19, 2007

Pureauthor said:
If that happens (and I don't see any way it will), it'd be a massive bomb in NA.

Not considering that DQ8 sold a large amount after hitting $19.99, something that DS games never tend to hit.

JoshuaJSlone · Nov 19, 2007

Lightning said:
This game better sell better in the US then it did in Japan or there is something wrong. The userbase in the US is larger then the Japan userbase and action RPG's have done well in the US in the past. I don't see why this one should be any different.

Final Fantasy tends to do better in Japan than the US. Regardless of userbase difference, this seems to have held for I, II, and Tactics on PSP so far.

Grecco · Nov 19, 2007

Hcoregamer00 said:
Not considering that DQ8 sold a large amount after hitting $19.99, something that DS games never tend to hit.

You meant PSP games right?

ethelred · Nov 19, 2007

Grecco said:
You meant PSP games right?

Maybe he said DS games because he thought people were actually talking about Dragon Quest IX in a Dragon Quest IX thread.

Stranger things have happened.

Hcoregamer00 · Nov 19, 2007

Grecco said:
You meant PSP games right?

No, how many high selling DS games got price dropped to $19.99 after being sold for a higher price?

PSP games get price drops far more frequently than DS games.

ethelred said:
Maybe he said DS games because he thought people were actually talking about Dragon Quest IX in a Dragon Quest IX thread.

Stranger things have happened.

:lol

Damn, that came out of left field

neptunes · Nov 19, 2007

Lightning said:
I don't see why this one should be any different. Anything under 1mil for the US as well will be extremely disappointing.

What was the last PSP game to reach 1 million in the US? I forgot

PSP games get price drops far more frequently than DS games.

and the reason they get price drop is because....

jj984jj · Nov 19, 2007

Not surprising, he wanted to release it during the holiday season. If he's still aiming for the holiday season and wants to release it next year I don't think it's best to tell the shareholders this soon, it wouldn't make much sense to.

Riskbreaker23 · Nov 19, 2007

neptunes said:
I can't properly gauge whether or not it met SE's expectations because...I don't think they announced any sales goals for Crisis Core.

Not to mention we don't know how much was spent developing the game, but I'm assuming alot.

I wonder how much the NA sales will be? 100k-200k tops?

i expect it to do at least 400k-500k in the with good promotion and close to the same in the EU

JoshuaJSlone · Nov 19, 2007

jj984jj said:
Not surprising, he wanted to release it during the holiday season. If he's still aiming for the holiday season and wants to release it next year I don't think it's best to tell the shareholders this soon, it wouldn't make much sense to.

Ouch if true. Back when DQIV was just a rumor, one of the reasons I doubted it was because it would make for a DQ-crowded schedule. Now with not only those but V and VI as well, things are even more crowded. Do they wait to get the remakes out of the way first? Do they toss IX out in the middle of them somewhen? Will V, VI, and IX release next year, or will at least one of them end up in 2009?

Brandon F · Nov 19, 2007

Japan lives on for an unspecified amount of time!

Kafel · Nov 19, 2007

So, who will tell us what's going on with FFXIII and the white engine ?

Johnas · Nov 19, 2007

JoshuaJSlone said:
Ouch if true. Back when DQIV was just a rumor, one of the reasons I doubted it was because it would make for a DQ-crowded schedule. Now with not only those but V and VI as well, things are even more crowded. Do they wait to get the remakes out of the way first? Do they toss IX out in the middle of them somewhen? Will V, VI, and IX release next year, or will at least one of them end up in 2009?

I'd wager V coming out ~8 months from now, then IX in Nov/Dec of '08. I imagine VI won't release until after IX.

TheJollyCorner · Nov 20, 2007

Kafel said:
So, who will tell us what's going on with FFXIII and the white engine ?

it's in development... and this isn't the Squaresoft/Square Electronic Arts days, where we'd get constant updates, unfortunately. When we see it again, chances are it will be in it's final stages (75% or so) and will be preparing for release within 7-10 months. FFX was similar. It went dark from it's first 'tech' showing at the Square Millennium Conference in Jan. 2000 until late Jan. 2001... a mere 6 months before it released.

There's also the belief that S-E will sit on it in accordance to PS3 sales/financial calender/all that bullshit. It's looking like Holiday '08 might be the striking point (at least for Japan), so I hope we hear that at JUMP Festa.

Kitase commands one of the most talented, able development teams in the industry. If there are any problems with development, I'd imagine it's strictly from the corporate end. I'll stand corrected if word comes out that I'm wrong... and I'll be terribly, terribly disappointed.

December 22. BELIEVE!

typhonsentra · Nov 20, 2007

Lightning said:
I thought Crisis Core had sold more then that.... Sad.

It has. Don't those figures only track up to the end of September?

Cheerilee · Nov 20, 2007

Hcoregamer00 said:
:lol

Damn, that came out of left field

Here, let me organize the quotes.

soul said:
- Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII (PSP): 710.000 St.

Lightning said:
I thought Crisis Core had sold more then that.... Sad.

Magicpaint said:
Huh? So because you expected it to do more, its performance is somehow sad? Those are fantastic numbers for a FF spin-off.

neptunes said:
I wonder how much the NA sales will be? 100k-200k tops?

Pureauthor said:
If that happens (and I don't see any way it will), it'd be a massive bomb in NA.

Hcoregamer00 said:
Not considering that DQ8 sold a large amount after hitting $19.99, something that DS games never tend to hit.

Grecco said:
You meant PSP games right?

ethelred said:
Maybe he said DS games because he thought people were actually talking about Dragon Quest IX in a Dragon Quest IX thread.

Stranger things have happened.

You see, it looks as if you're saying that DQ9 on the DS won't be a bomb even if it only has 100k-200k sales in NA, because those will be full-priced sales (unlike DQ8). Which would've meant that the subject drifted away from Crisis Core and back to DQ9 because of the thread title.

But it's possible that you were agreeing with Pureauthor that there was no way Crisis Core would only sell 100k-200k, because it's a PSP game and if it doesn't sell it'll just go on clearance and post the big numbers by default. The DS being mentioned only as the system that doesn't follow that pattern.

A Link to the Past · Nov 20, 2007

I'm seriously considering that SE is worried about all of their recent DS bombs (Chocobo, FFCC, HoM, etc.).

I mean, they've had some good success with DQMJ and FFIII, but not much else.

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