WickedLaharl
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYVwhk5y2pU ZOE HD ANUBIS GamePlay Analysis X360 vs PS3
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ZoE HD Collection Performance Analysis (It's Bad, Especially On PS3)
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SolidSnakex
Member
Those particle effects are killing both consoles.
BeautifulMemory
Member
wow @ ps3. Why
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Much better apparently.
Frame rate & Performance comparison (courtesy Beyond3d)
http://ps360.ldblog.jp/archives/53821248.html
Yikes, what the hell happened with the PS3 version here ?
Anime cinematics quality looks the same (no extra advantage of bluray space).
Texture resolution also looks about the same
360 version seems to have a lot more motion blur
Looks like it.
sechsterangriff
Member
I guess the 360 LE version will be the "rare and most sought after one" this time around.
Maybe HV Software can release a patch?
Maybe HV Software can release a patch?
This demonstrates how different the demands were between MGS3 and ZOE2. Both titles pushed the PS2 very hard with MGS3 running MUCH slower on PS2 compared to ZOE2. It's clear that the areas in which ZOE2 is demanding involves particles while MGS3 is more about geometry, I'd imagine. Both systems had little trouble with MGS3 but ZOE2 is getting wrecked here. Even the 360 performance isn't as good as it should be. PS2 was a beast! I can't believe anyone even suggested porting this to the Vita. There's no way in hell that the Vita has the fillrate necessary to pull this one off.
I wonder if dropping the PS3 output resolution to 480p would improve things? While that obviously kills the "HD" portion of the title it would still be cleaner than the PS2 version and might actually improve performance since the framerate is unlocked.
I wonder if dropping the PS3 output resolution to 480p would improve things? While that obviously kills the "HD" portion of the title it would still be cleaner than the PS2 version and might actually improve performance since the framerate is unlocked.
Don't see why not. Only x360 has separate disc according to pics, and Japan version has download codes for the demo. Knowing Capcom, I bet the ps3 demo is shareable lol
Whoa at the x360 frame rate increase
Wow, the 360 version is a lot better; I guess they really did take advantage of the fill-rate advantages that the hardware had. That actually makes me want to track down a 360 copy and play that, while keeping the PS3 LE wrapped up.
Can't imagine there being any control problems; unlike MGS2&3, the ZOE game don't use analog buttons for anything.
Can't imagine there being any control problems; unlike MGS2&3, the ZOE game don't use analog buttons for anything.
Fuck, I want the PS3 demo of Rising but the 360 ZoE HD.
Yeah but how is using the bumpers?
Yeah but how is using the bumpers?
Well, if they did a direct translation of the controls, that would mean the cancel lock-on function is on LB and guard is on RB. I don't think that will be too much of a problem to get used to.
sechsterangriff
Member
I'm more worried about button pressure sensitive sub-weapon controls. The 360 controller doesn't have analogue abxy buttons
I'm more worried about button pressure sensitive sub-weapon controls. The 360 controller doesn't have analogue abxy buttons
Those were pressure sensitive? I always thought they were based on how long you held the button down.
sechsterangriff
Member
Yes. For example, Phalanx's cone of fire would be more concentrated the harder your pressed, and the number of Homing Missiles would vary also according to pressure.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
MGS3 also utilized the pressure sensitive buttons, they worked around those for the HD version, granted the method of going into first person aiming was very fucked in the 360 version, the controls probably aren't as bad here.
Plus the extra performance boost means it's worth getting used to different controls ..
Plus the extra performance boost means it's worth getting used to different controls ..
Huh, I played the game to death and always assumed that it was just holding the button down that caused that stuff to happen, which I imagine is what they ended up doing.
Ok, thanks! So there's my offer, I can help with 10 bucks if the person will share the PS3 demo with me, I don't really care about the HD version since it's bad anyway, just want that demo.
If it pops up on ebay for 10 dollars I'll get it as well.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Saw that coming lol. Not the first time high performance games have run worse on PS3. Fully expect Rising to be better on 360 as well.
Still buying it on PS3 since ZoE, like DMC and Metal Gear, is a Playstation franchise to me. So I'd want that version of the collector's box
Atleast both versions fixed the screen tearing from the original
Still buying it on PS3 since ZoE, like DMC and Metal Gear, is a Playstation franchise to me. So I'd want that version of the collector's box
Atleast both versions fixed the screen tearing from the original
GoncaloCCastro
Member
I really hoped this would turn out better than this, more on the PS3 side than the 360. Like this I won't be buying the collection day one, maybe when it's cheaper.
Shadow2222
Member
Hmmm. I have ZOE HD for PS3 preordered at Newegg for 29.99. I have a harder time telling fps than most people probably do. I've never played these before, should I stick with PS3 or spend the extra ten bucks for the 360 version.
donkey show
Member
Nah, they were only up-res'd. The only actual new animation is the collection intro I believe.
I see. Well the sketchy frame rate is still disappointing then :/
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
don't know why they even bother with these if they can't maintain a proper framerate or without just fucking everything up. these hd collections started well but (and this isn't the first time i say it) they really took a turn for the worse lately.
i guess i'll keep my preorder for the ps3 LE, i really want that artbook, although i doubt i'll even play it.
i guess i'll keep my preorder for the ps3 LE, i really want that artbook, although i doubt i'll even play it.
Konami's ones have tended to be the worst.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Except for MGS2, MGS3, Peace Walker and ZoE 1 I guess
Worst case scenario Konami will send me a copy of Shattered Soldier sealed if I keep my receipt. lol
Worst case scenario Konami will send me a copy of Shattered Soldier sealed if I keep my receipt. lol
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Wow, I guess that means that the 360 version of the collection may genuinely be an improvement over the originals?
I will gladly switch my preorder over to that version if it's actually worth buying.
I will gladly switch my preorder over to that version if it's actually worth buying.
onlyindreams
Banned
wrong thread
CloakedPuppet
Member
I think I'll probably with the PS3 version as well. I prefer Kojima stuff on Sony hardware for some reason. Also, unless I missed a cancellation announcement, the upcoming Vita version alone makes it worth owning for Transfarring (LOVE it for MGS HD!).
Those comparisons (including the frame rate numbers) look pretty close and certainly aren't dramatic enough to make this an actual issue like the botched SH-HD release.
Those comparisons (including the frame rate numbers) look pretty close and certainly aren't dramatic enough to make this an actual issue like the botched SH-HD release.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I think it's worth watching the video that compares the two versions. The difference is pretty drastic... moreso than just looking at the numbers would indicate.
If these consoles are struggling this much with ZOE2 I somehow doubt that the collection will end up surfacing on Vita. It's probably cancelled.
onlyindreams
Banned
All my Kojima games are on PS3. Not switching
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That is such busted reasoning...
Original Man
Member
I don't see anything wrong with the ps3 version *shrugs*
CloakedPuppet
Member
I just watched it. The 360 version does look a little faster but the PS3 version still looks fine to me. I still don't see it as dramatic a difference as some are making it out to be.
In any event, I have my coveted PS2 copy of ZOE2 which I picked up on Ebay mere months before they announced this HD-release. I can always pop that in when I want the "purest" version.
SerArthurDayne
Member
My 360 is a dust collector so I'm going PS3. Of course the game will be a dust collector for a while anyways. Sorry to see such poor performance, but I have no frame of reference on the game, and I'm not a purist on frame rate, so hopefully it won't affect my play too much.
And some people were saying that having High Voltage develop it didn't matter!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490057
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490057