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OK PC-GAF, time to put up: Give me a plan to build a CPU comparable to a PS4XB1
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GhostTrick
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Yes, you can build a gaming PC for that cheap price. But let's be honest. It won't stay long.
As for the console staying long... come on, there's already concessions made for the game to run decently.
Now, you can't ask for the same price to have a far better machine, because that's what PC is. A more versatile platform, with a huge library. When you buy a gaming PC, you both buy a PC (which you needs for everyday work) and a gaming machine.
In the long term, a PC is a lot cheaper for sure. In 5 years, I spent 600 on Steam... for nearly 300 games. You don't pay online paywall either, which makes a console a more expensive machine.
People keep saying there's hidden cost with a PC. This is true. You need a mice and keyboard or an OS... but this is also true for a console. You need to pay an online paywall. Games are somewhat more expensive.
In the end, after being against PC for a long time, I'm not totally convinced. Also, while the first build is the most expensive one, the rest is about upgrades and parts you keep for a long time.
As for the console staying long... come on, there's already concessions made for the game to run decently.
Now, you can't ask for the same price to have a far better machine, because that's what PC is. A more versatile platform, with a huge library. When you buy a gaming PC, you both buy a PC (which you needs for everyday work) and a gaming machine.
In the long term, a PC is a lot cheaper for sure. In 5 years, I spent 600 on Steam... for nearly 300 games. You don't pay online paywall either, which makes a console a more expensive machine.
People keep saying there's hidden cost with a PC. This is true. You need a mice and keyboard or an OS... but this is also true for a console. You need to pay an online paywall. Games are somewhat more expensive.
In the end, after being against PC for a long time, I'm not totally convinced. Also, while the first build is the most expensive one, the rest is about upgrades and parts you keep for a long time.
Just as well they don't exist any more.
PC prices drop much faster than console prices though.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I like the looks of that. I noticed it said upgrade the CPU and RAM to your liking, but I'm assuming you're limited by CPU choices if the motherboard can't be changed.
Okay, since we are having a serious discussion here I want to to talk about the extra costs of hiding your PC in the living room, with consoles being so discrete and universally accepted as devices to have in the living room - it's okay to have one underneath the TV.
Now lets look at PC's:
Imagine for an instance you brought a girl over on the first date and she saw that in the living room... forget about coffee she would have left before that after seeing that monstrosity of a device, it screams stuck-up gamer bling, it's garish it's ugly and just a sore sight to the eyes. Black boxes don't help as it's still obtuse and seems out of place in a living room, lets not forget about the noise, every heard a PC machine on full blast? sounds like you have a broken hoover in the room.
So with a PC, not only you have to buy stupidly expensive parts and extra hidden costs but a concealed cabinet to hide your shame.
Now lets look at PC's:
Imagine for an instance you brought a girl over on the first date and she saw that in the living room... forget about coffee she would have left before that after seeing that monstrosity of a device, it screams stuck-up gamer bling, it's garish it's ugly and just a sore sight to the eyes. Black boxes don't help as it's still obtuse and seems out of place in a living room, lets not forget about the noise, every heard a PC machine on full blast? sounds like you have a broken hoover in the room.
So with a PC, not only you have to buy stupidly expensive parts and extra hidden costs but a concealed cabinet to hide your shame.
FunkyMunkey
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You guys are forgetting to factor in the ATP and nutrients used by the human body while building the PC, along with the loss of carbon exhaled as co2.
And by the fact that it all has to manage to get by on stronger CPUs that still fit in a 130W PSU constraint.
Okay, since we are having a serious discussion here I want to to talk about the extra costs of hiding your PC in the living room, with consoles being so discrete and universally accepted as devices to having the living room it's okay to have one underneath the TV.
Now lets look at PC's:
Imagine for an instance you brought a girl over on the first date and she saw that in the living room... forget about coffee she would have left before that after seeing that monstrosity of a device, it screams stuck-up gamer bling, it's garish it's ugly and just a sore sight to the eyes. Black boxes don't help as it's still obtuse and seems out of place in a living room, lets not forget about the noise, every heard a PC machine on full blast? sounds like you have a broken hoover in the room.
So with a PC, not only you have to buy stupidly expensive parts and extra hidden costs but a concealed cabinet to hide your shame.
You almost got me.
-MD-
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Has anyone mentioned the hassle of dealing with drivers yet? What a nightmare those bastards are.
Always with the drivers! I just wanna pop in my disc and play... after the mandatory update of course.
CosmicQueso
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Now lets look at PC's:
Green, alien head
Door closes, my date has gone
PC gaming sucks
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I liked Melissa
Would not love me in return
Controllers only
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Making spaghetti
Her mouth agape with disgust
Do you even mouse?
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Fan blows all around
CPU dust flies between
Too much noise to kiss
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Ouch! Didn't see that.
I came expecting it to be a serious question.
Is there a thread I could refer to for a more honest take on the same question? I don't want 1440p or multi monitors. I'd like to know, excluding peripherals and software, how much it should cost in the US to get a gaming computer for High (not Ultra) settings on most games at 1080p.
Is there a thread I could refer to for a more honest take on the same question? I don't want 1440p or multi monitors. I'd like to know, excluding peripherals and software, how much it should cost in the US to get a gaming computer for High (not Ultra) settings on most games at 1080p.
Fifty million dollars
Guys im an expert console gamer I have the latest sega for example I think I know a thing or two about console gaming. Let me tell you, the thing that sucks about console gaming is how your dog is always ripping the controller cord out of the console when it walks by. Also the crazy costs of memory cards. Dont even get me started on the poor image quality of rf units. Plus consoles are full of shmups and platformers, no real games like fps.
Yes, modern console gaming is just full of shit.
Yes, modern console gaming is just full of shit.
Glide 3D is s0 phuck1ng 1337, DirectX is f0r ll4m45.
Whenever I have someone over, and let's be honest, my mom doesn't allow me to have visitors over after 7, in between apologizing for having children's toys also known as video consoles, I just tell them that the giant pulsating tower in the corner of my basement bedroom is an air purifier. Women love when you care about the environment.Okay, since we are having a serious discussion here I want to to talk about the extra costs of hiding your PC in the living room, with consoles being so discrete and universally accepted as devices to having the living room it's okay to have one underneath the TV.
Now lets look at PC's:
Imagine for an instance you brought a girl over on the first date and she saw that in the living room... forget about coffee she would have left before that after seeing that monstrosity of a device, it screams stuck-up gamer bling, it's garish it's ugly and just a sore sight to the eyes. Black boxes don't help as it's still obtuse and seems out of place in a living room, lets not forget about the noise, every heard a PC machine on full blast? sounds like you have a broken hoover in the room.
So with a PC, not only you have to buy stupidly expensive parts and extra hidden costs but a concealed cabinet to hide your shame.
Schrade
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SneakyStephan
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We need someone to write some fan fiction on this.
A store about the trials and tribulations of being a pc gamer, how it affects your dating life, How your highschool sweetheart left you when she discovered that razer mousepad under your bed.
We can give the protagonist a best friend /roommate with an xbone, whose' gamertag is cunt destroyer, and the epic falling out they have when protagonist keeps scaring away his dates with the hideous machine that is his alienware pc.
Roommate eventually gets engaged but the wedding is broken off at the last moment as protagonist leaves the door to his room open and the fiancee gets a glimpse of the tower, lured in by the whirring of those 8 120mm fans.
There could be a pet ferret called duke for comic relief, but it would all end up in tragedy as duke ends up choking to death on one of the protagonist's designer anti static bracelets.
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Nice
CosmicQueso
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Dead serious.
The PC gaming thread is an amazing resource full of very friendly people who are absolutely fantastic at answering any question, so long as one reads the OP first.
-MD-
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jim-jam bongs
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Considering that you're an IT professional who obviously knows their shit, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is nothing more than a passive aggressive troll thread.
Hey, I was a legit 3dfx fanboy back in the day because the rain on Raindance in Starsiege:Tribes would only render when using Glide. When I finally upgraded to a TNT2, the rain was gone forever. :-(
Don't fux wit my diamond edge 3d nv-1, fool
jim-jam bongs
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Canopus Pure3d bitches, how's that salt taste?
Mithos
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A lot of non tech people call the entire PC a "harddrive" also in real life (in Sweden).
This is fucking sad.
-MD-
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Say what?
EdwardTeach
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How much would you expect to spend on console games per year? Would you subscribe to gold or ps+.
Depending on your annual gaming spend, I wouldn't think a decent pc is likely to work out cheaper over a single year. However given the lower price point of pc games on release and the much better sales prices, I think it wouldn't be surprising if you began to save money after a couple of years, and over the lifetime of a console I think a regular gamer would have a considerable saving by opting to go with a pc. This would be on the assumption that you are someone who keeps most of their games. There is no resale market in pc, and that is obviously something that subsidises the cost of console games for some people.
I have several consoles and a pc, so can see the benefits of either option. My consoles are primarily for exclusives & portability (vita). I would tend to opt for pc for multi platform games, as I will normally get better graphics & framerate and always pay less. I hook my pc up to the TV when I am playing with a controller so the experience is identical.
Depending on your annual gaming spend, I wouldn't think a decent pc is likely to work out cheaper over a single year. However given the lower price point of pc games on release and the much better sales prices, I think it wouldn't be surprising if you began to save money after a couple of years, and over the lifetime of a console I think a regular gamer would have a considerable saving by opting to go with a pc. This would be on the assumption that you are someone who keeps most of their games. There is no resale market in pc, and that is obviously something that subsidises the cost of console games for some people.
I have several consoles and a pc, so can see the benefits of either option. My consoles are primarily for exclusives & portability (vita). I would tend to opt for pc for multi platform games, as I will normally get better graphics & framerate and always pay less. I hook my pc up to the TV when I am playing with a controller so the experience is identical.
You sure as hell don't call a PC a 'CPU' though.
Eh....
I help a lot of my IT friends with picking PC parts. Knowing how computers work doesn't necessarily translate to knowing good gaming hardware.
Mithos
Member
Usually my reply too ;P
Its stuff like:
-Hey I bought a new computer, but the hardrive is making to much noise/don't fit under my desk.
-What harddrive do you have, pointing at the PC-Tower/case whatnot.
You know what else sucks about console gaming? Coding to the metal. Yeah, all console games have to be written entirely in ASM! They don't have the ease of development of high level languages that PC gaming has. Console gaming coding god Yu Suzuki said that coding on a console is so difficult that maybe 10% of people in the world can access more than 50% of the power of a console because ASM is just that hard. Unless you are better than Yu Suzuki, you can't refute that!
Man, modern console gaming is a joke!
Man, modern console gaming is a joke!
Surprising how common this is. It took me years to break my wife out of this very bad habit.
"Upload/download" and "forward slash/backslash" misuse also grinds my gears.
Dictator93
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jim-jam bongs
Member
90% of modern IT is knowing how to use Google effectively, ronito could get answers pretty easily with a little effort. Shit, the PC building thread here would get the job done with almost no elbow grease. The title and OP stink of troll bait.
He's busy ordering his $400 PS4-crushing build from gateway right now.
Glorified G
Member
I don't see why anyone would want to do this unless you just want a Indie/legacy box, or a small form factor HTPC. You're paying more for hardware that will not get the performance benefits you would want in a PC as games would look and perform similar or worse to PS4 depending on the optimization given by the dev. It would also be a pain in the ass to upgrade later as opposed to paying a few hundred dollars more. Why tweak settings just to get similar console output that you'll need to upgrade in a couple years just to keep up when you can just pay a little less and get it all streamlined for you?
If you want a PC with PS4 performance, buy a PS4. If you want a more powerful PC be prepared to pay.
If you want a PC with PS4 performance, buy a PS4. If you want a more powerful PC be prepared to pay.
Ash_Killem
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There is an important factor that is missing from the OP. The optimization factor. PS4/XBO the devs (or Sony/MS) do all the optimizing and it generally gets better over time.
Main thing that is keeping me away from real PC gaming is the hours of bullshit and frustration of getting a game to run on a system that you know can run it and all the unforeseen issues that can arise.
Main thing that is keeping me away from real PC gaming is the hours of bullshit and frustration of getting a game to run on a system that you know can run it and all the unforeseen issues that can arise.
Brofist
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He's already preparing his "disappointed in PC gaming" topic
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