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Cucumber, Banana, and Tofu - Three interconnected series exploring modern LGBT life

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RatskyWatsky

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Fifteen years after Queer As Folk exploded on to the screen, award-winning writer Russell T Davies is back with Cucumber, Banana and Tofu: three new interlinked shows for Channel 4, E4 and 4oD.

Best known for creating hit series Queer As Folk in the late nineties, Russel T Davies is a Bafta-award winning producer and screenwriter. Davies has more recently worked on series including Torchwood and Dr Who.

The show titles are based on a scale for measuring the hardness of an erection. Russell T Davies learned about this from a scientific study, he has said. "It divided the hard-on into four categories, from soft to hard. One, tofu. Two, peeled banana. Three, banana. And four, cucumber. Right there and then, I knew I had my drama."

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Cucumber:



Cucumber follows 46-year-old Henry Best, played by Vincent Franklin and his long-term boyfriend Lance (played by Cyril Nri) in the aftermath of "the worst date night in history".

The eight-part drama sees Best leave the stale relationship behind to face a tonne of drama: a death, a threesome and a somewhat chaotic house-share with a group of younger men.

Airs Thursdays at 9pm on Channel 4.

Banana:



Banana follows eight stories celebrating love without labels. One young lesbian pursues an unrequited love, another struggles to choose between her lover and her over-protective mum while another is besieged by unwanted attention from an ex. Expect a very modern look at gay culture, where hook-up apps play a huge role.

Airs Thursdays at 10pm on E4.

Tofu:



Tofu is an online documentary series about sex and sexuality made by YouTube sensation Benjamin Cook. The series looks at the real issues raised in the dramas and features candid chats with members of the public as well as actors. Episodes include "Good Sex, Bad Sex", "Queer As F***", and "Filthy, Dirty Sex".

New installments are available every Thursday at 10:30pm on 4oD.

Cucumber and Banana will air in the US on Logo TV beginning in April.

Reviews:

The Guardian said:
I’m not gay (there, I’ve said it). This/these show/s is/are, very. Gloriously, explicitly, triumphantly, cucumberly. Gay to the core. But I never once felt left out, or that this wasn’t relevant to me (on the contrary, I felt a worrying connection with Henry). As you’d expect from Davies, it’s also dead funny and – most of all – very, very human.

Socialist Review said:
There is less of the sentimentality that has become a feature of that series. It has a wonderful economy of writing and it moves at a cracking pace. It’s also funny and sexy and wonderfully moving. With its ethnically diverse mix and prominence of good roles for gays and women it is guaranteed to upset all the right people.

It is a pacy series and beneath the drama and comedy there is an inescapable sense of a celebration of modern Britain.

I'm with Geek said:
Confident, unapologetic, and crucially very funny.

The Bubble said:
The trilogy didn’t disappoint. Russell is back on our screens with unstoppable force; very here and very, very queer. Queer As Folk was near revolutionary back in its hey-day, and now that we live in a society that treats homosexuality as a norm and of equal value to heterosexual relationships, Russell’s new series will have to push boundaries even further to cause as much of a storm. But as far as things go in these three first episodes, I think Russell is on his way to doing just that.
 

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One of those times where I wonder why there's such a delay on some shows heading overseas.
 

CDX

Member
Just watched the first episode for each series. So far, I liked Banana better than Cucumber.

The younger minor/side characters of Cucumber became the main characters of Banana. I didn't know how that was going to work but I thought it worked well.

Tofu, wasn't connected to Cucumber or Banana at all. Tofu was 11 or 12 minutes long and more than half of it was just seemingly random people talking about sex.


This looks interesting. Any way to watch this in Canada?

Hola has always worked for 4od programs, for me in the US.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Watched them all and loved it
Fantastically written and great humour throughout and I loved the connection between cucumber and banana (although from what I understand the next few Banana episodes wont be as linked in with cucumber as the first)

Tofu, wasn't connected to Cucumber or Banana at all. Tofu was 11 or 12 minutes long and more than half of it was just seemingly random people talking about sex.
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I think tofu is just that, a documentary series that is very frank and open about those sort of subjects.
I will say it was quite strange how it went from people just talking about sex to a mini episode thing about having a rating site for it, but then I guess the creators are just saying that is what we're heading to as we become more open as a society.
In fact I'd actually be surprised if there wasn't a site that rates prostitutes like other tradespeople
 

T.O.P

Banned
I'm dying to watch this

But i can't find any damn english subtitles for it (i can watch them without but i'd hate to miss out stuff)
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
I'm dying to watch this

But i can't find any damn english subtitles for it (i can watch them without but i'd hate to miss out stuff)

4od has subtitles
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
can't get the player to start, might be locked outside of the uk? :(

Try hola unblocker and make sure you have adblock off as they have software that detects it
 

T.O.P

Banned
Try hola unblocker and make sure you have adblock off as they have software that detects it

No luck atm

I got both Hola and Adblock but it gives me a proxy error when i try to enter the page, when it does after a couple of tries the player just won't show up :(

@nope even using a specified Hola proxy for Channel 4 the video gives me a "Playback error" ughhhhhhhh
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
What Banana did to me was not ok tonight
I didn't think it was possible to go from thinking someone was an absolute creeper to being utterly heartbroken by them in about five minutes. Cracking story though

I'm guessing for story stuff we should be putting it in spoilers as it's not aired in the US yet?

Cucumber chat:
The guy in crutches is possibly my favourite character so far along with Harry's sister.
Was in tears during the meeting speech when the wife turned up the heat on him, did not see that coming at all.
What going on with Harry's nephew? Is he supposed to be gay or do guys just hang around with no tops on now? Has it changed that much since I left school?
Freddie is a dickhead, but importantly his friend with the ass tattoo was absolutely stunning

Prediction: Lance will sleep with the diver, or try to and diver guy will beat the shit out of him.
 

Gradon

Member
Prediction: Lance will sleep with the diver, or try to and diver guy will beat the shit out of him.

Cucumber spoilers
I got a very sinister feeling from what he said to Lance just after he got mad and offered swimming lessons. I am really scared for him to be honest.
I am actually really saddened by Henry and Lances relationship as well, I just find it really sad to watch them crumble.
I don't really have a favourite character at the moment.

Also Henry's nephew being shirtless with his friend weirded me out a little since they're both meant to be 15.

I'm currently watching Banana episode 2 and
Scotty is freaking me out.

I personally find it a strange feeling it's filmed in the Manchester/Salford area.
I don't watch much TV so I find it peculiar seeing areas in the show around me.
 

pfkas

Member
There's a 30 foot advert for cucumber at my train station in the morning, of a man with an odd expression having a cucumber poked in his face. basically a big stiff cock in his face.
 

T.O.P

Banned
Halfway through the Cucumber's pilot and this is fantastic

Shame that i'm missing out on some dialogue, i have no problem with american english but with the UK it's different...and nobody is working on subs yet :/

Didn't get why they jerked off separately after all that build up...god i hate missing stuff
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Halfway through the Cucumber's pilot and this is fantastic

Shame that i'm missing out on some dialogue, i have no problem with american english but with the UK it's different...and nobody is working on subs yet :/

Didn't get why they jerked off separately after all that build up...god i hate missing stuff

feel free to ask if you dont know what something means and I;ll do my best to translate
 

T.O.P

Banned
feel free to ask if you dont know what something means and I;ll do my best to translate

Apprecciate it, but it's not that i don't get what certain stuff means, it's just that some words just slips through my ears

I end up rewinding every couple of minutes because even the slightest accents is a problem and holy damn they talk fast

Not a really big problem since it's already entertaining as it is, i'll just give it a second go once the show comes to dvd/bd, but thanks!
 

terrisus

Member
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Sex no evil
Think no evil
Mock no evil
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Vazduh

Member
After four episodes I can say I'm enjoying Cucumber more than Banana, although both shows are good and definitely worth a watch. More people should watch this!
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
I don't know who is still watching, but the last two episodes have been absolutely fantastic. Absolutely sublime tv
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Cucumber episode 6 spoilers

Someone please hold me. Have been crying for the past 30 minutes.

even though I knew it was coming no death in any other show or movie has hit me harder
fantastic writing, acting and direction
 

Gradon

Member
even though I knew it was coming no death in any other show or movie has hit me harder
fantastic writing, acting and direction

I know. As soon as I saw the description for the episode on 4oD and the date at the beginning, I knew it was gonna happen and that he would do that, I have felt off about Daniel the entire series as I mentioned above a couple weeks ago.
I certainly did not expect it to be as brutal as it was though, my heart is in shambles. I haven't felt like this from a show before.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
I know. As soon as I saw the description for the episode on 4oD and the date at the beginning, I knew it was gonna happen and that he would do that, I have felt off about Daniel the entire series as I mentioned above a couple weeks ago.
I certainly did not expect it to be as brutal as it was though, my heart is in shambles. I haven't felt like this from a show before.

see i was expecting it to happen, which actually made it more brutal.
As soon as that relationship started I predicted he would kill Lance, but to see it is something completely different, even if the episode says it will happen
 

Vazduh

Member
I'll just sum up my feelings after this episode of Cucumber:

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Can't say Lance's death was unexpected, but man, what a brutal scene.
 
I saw what popped up at the beginning of the episode and was like: Nope!

Then, later on, I skipped to the end and was still: Nope.

Haven't watched the whole episode. Don't know if I will.
 

CDX

Member
Episode 6

I felt so bad for Lance this episode.


He had a strained relationship with his father.

He was in essentially a long term sexless marriage. But his partner wouldn't even marry him.

And I've long been questioning why he still pursued Daniel, to me it seemed like bad news for a very long time. Or I thought, at best it would've turned into a thing where only Lance sucked Daniel off every once in awhile. Which would seem like a terrible relationship to me.

But then that ending :(
 
Banana:
Was I supposed to find the hot douchebag more sympathetic than the self-pitying, desperate, clingy unattractive one? I'm not sure I was.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
I was not expecting that episode of cucumber after what happened previous
went a lot lighter than I expected
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Yeah, it was... kind of jarring. The ending, especially.

yeah, i get they need to balance everything but I think they took it too far in the other direction
hope it gets a little more serious, at least for the next episode
 

TrutaS

Member
I thought it was a beautifully written episode. Perfect successor to the shocking episode that came before. With happy, sad and crazy moments, but very heartfelt all throughout.
 
Been watching this show religiously every week since the first episode aired a couple of weeks ago.
Yesterday was episode 6, and I felt devastated afterwards. I even cried. My girlfriend closed her eyes when that scene happened and left the room after a couple of seconds because it was too much for her.

I really liked Lance, and felt he deserved so much better than this.

But I have to say, the whole builtup to that scene in this episode and over the last few episodes as well is some of the best television that I have ever seen.

I really wonder why the thread for this series isn't/wasn't bigger around here, and I am not even a LBGT person.

Cucumber is really awesome television, and you should watch it.
 
Just received the blu-ray for Cucumber/Banana and can't wait to watch.

Any recommendation as to the order I should watch them? I was thinking one episode of each instead of one series after the other.
 
Just received the blu-ray for Cucumber/Banana and can't wait to watch.

Any recommendation as to the order I should watch them? I was thinking one episode of each instead of one series after the other.

They are not thaaaat connected to each other apart from both series first episodes, but sometimes stuff happens in Banana that was foreshadowed in Cucumber, so the way you described it is probably the best way to watch it..

Personally, I liked Cucumber a lot more than Banana (apert from the first episode of Banana).

I have to say, that both series accomplished that I feel and care much more for LBGT issues than before.
 
I'm sure although I hope I'm not overhyped. Not LGBT either but very interested in the subject and I keep hearing raving reviews.

Still have to finish a few things beforehand, mostly OJ Made in America (which is exceptionnal btw).
 
The show notably casts the first transgender actor in a transgender role in a UK television series, with comedian Bethany Black portraying Helen, a transgender woman.[2] Davies insisted that a transgender actor be cast as Helen, going so far as to alter the script until Black was cast at the eleventh hour; Black was vocal in her praise for this, contrasting the decision with the casting of Jared Leto as a trans woman in the recent film Dallas Buyer's Club, which she described as "a cisgender guy trying to play what he thought a trans woman would be like"

From the wiki on Banana, huge fuck yes to Davies for this.
 
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