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Malyse · Feb 8, 2017

The estate of the late YouTube personality Messy Mya is suing the superstar for allegedly sampling his voice on 'Formation' without permission.

except

and

Plus she took the sample from a Youtube vlog, which is apparently well within the YouTube terms and conditions that no one ever reads for anything. So...

http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/07/beyonce-sued-sample-messy-mya-formation/

The videos in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDZJPJV__bQ
https://youtu.be/daKqgdcypTE?t=16s (mobile skip to 16s)
https://youtu.be/zsYOnx2xJuY?t=40s (mobile skip to 40s)

dave is ok · Feb 8, 2017

This is like the nine hundredth time she's been accused of stealing other people's music.

Wafflecakes · Feb 8, 2017

dave is ok said:
This is like the nine hundredth time she's been accused of stealing other people's music.

That is because it is the nine hundredth time she has stolen music.

I thought it was pretty well known that she has no music writing talent herself.

commedieu · Feb 8, 2017

I'm more upset at the lack of creativity.

None of these thefts are ever shit a talented person couldn't come up with or alternate... It's just lazy theft.

The Faceless Master · Feb 8, 2017

hey i remember the last time she was accused of theft over this very same video people jumped on it and it turned out that she did indeed license the content used.

oh wait, that was almost exactly a year ago.

http://ew.com/article/2016/02/06/beyonce-formation-music-video-that-beat/

But in a statement to EW, Beyoncé's rep says, ”The documentary footage was used with permission and licensed from the owner of the footage. They were given proper compensation. The footage was provided to us by the filmmaker's production company. The filmmaker is listed in the credits for additional photography direction. We are thankful that they granted us permission ."

maybe it's true this time...

Sai-kun · Feb 8, 2017

dave is ok said:
This is like the nine hundredth time she's been accused of stealing other people's music.

...its some voice samples from a vlog

yall dont even click links do you

lmfao the first three posts are just...sad

OG Shaka Zulu · Feb 8, 2017

Wouldn't this be the producer's fault and not Bey?

Malyse · Feb 8, 2017

Sai-kun said:
...its some voice samples from a vlog

yall dont even click links do you

lmfao the first three posts are just...sad

Click links? Bruh, people barely read OP's.

Majmun · Feb 8, 2017

It's not even about music...

The estate is just money hungry. She seems to have used those lines with permission.

dave is ok · Feb 8, 2017

Sai-kun said:
...its some voice samples from a vlog

yall dont even click links do you

lmfao the first three posts are just...sad

Sorry, shouldn't have just said music. She steals music video concepts, voice samples, song writing credits, music and ideas.

Zeus The Dino · Feb 8, 2017

Demoskinos · Feb 8, 2017

Mo' Money Mo Problems.

The Faceless Master · Feb 8, 2017

OG Shaka Zulu said:
Wouldn't this be the producer's fault and not Bey?

producers don't make the headlines

it's like when USAIN BOLT LOSES OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL and the story doesn't even mention the actual dude who got popped

mattp · Feb 8, 2017

this is so easily avoided
why not just have someone else say those lines instead of sampling them?

Zaph · Feb 8, 2017

OG Shaka Zulu said:
Wouldn't this be the producer's fault and not Bey?

Doesn't matter who was at fault not getting the sample cleared, you sue the person who owns the infringing work - so that's Beyonce's label and Sony/Columbia. The producer will probably be named on the lawsuit too.

daffy · Feb 8, 2017

Formation was such a good video. So beautiful. So many good, varied shots. So perfectly choreographed. We'll never get another one like it. it couldve been our generation's thriller if the formation dance was as easy as the zombie dance

parrotbeak · Feb 8, 2017

Cool, now I know where those samples are from and now I know who Messy is (not really but more than I knew before this).

Deadly Cyclone · Feb 8, 2017

Wafflecakes said:
That is because it is the nine hundredth time she has stolen music.

I thought it was pretty well known that she has no music writing talent herself.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahha.

perfectchaos007 · Feb 8, 2017

dave is ok said:
Sorry, shouldn't have just said music. She steals music video concepts, voice samples, song writing credits, music and ideas.

She used a voice sample in this case from a youtube video. His estate was already reportedly compensated. What more was she supposed to do? Kanye uses voice samples sometimes, Biggie Smalls used voice samples, as well as a shit ton of artists i cant think of off the top of my head right now

valkillmore · Feb 8, 2017

mattp said:
this is so easily avoided
why not just have someone else say those lines instead of sampling them?

Or, you know . . . write something original and have someone say that

Numb · Feb 8, 2017

Wafflecakes said:
That is because it is the nine hundredth time she has stolen music.

I thought it was pretty well known that she has no music writing talent herself.

dave is ok · Feb 8, 2017

perfectchaos007 said:
She used a voice sample in this case from a youtube video. His estate was already reportedly compensated. What more was she supposed to do? Kanye uses voice samples sometimes, Biggie Smalls used voice samples, as well as a shit ton of artists i cant think of off the top of my head right now

Regardless of whether the sample was cleared I think this lawsuit is ridiculous. No judge will ever reward the estate with 20 million for a voice sample.

But I think since Beyonce has been sued at least half a dozen times for this type of thing, not to mention all the times she wasn't sued by a songwriter has claimed she took credit from them (Ne-Yo, Linda Perry, etc.) a pretty clear pattern has been established.

Angelus Errare · Feb 8, 2017

Malyse said:
Click links? Bruh, people barely read OP's.

Read OPs? Shit on GAF most people can't even parse thread titles correctly.

Sai-kun · Feb 8, 2017

valkillmore said:
Or, you know . . . write something original and have someone say that

sampling as a part of music has existed for literally decades and decades

what the fuck

have some of you ever listened to music?

Majmun · Feb 8, 2017

dave is ok said:
Sorry, shouldn't have just said music. She steals music video concepts, voice samples, song writing credits, music and ideas.

WTF are you talking about?

It's called TAKING INSPIRATION

rhandino · Feb 8, 2017

Ignorance and salt already showed in full force by the 2nd post.

Oh well.

valkillmore · Feb 8, 2017

Sai-kun said:
sampling as a part of music has existed for literally decades and decades

what the fuck

have some of you ever listened to music?

Maybe I'm wrong about my take. If I am, oops. Yeah I listen to music all the time. If in fact she didn't secure proper rights or whatever, she should have done that, or had done something original. I don't even know why I commented in this thread to be honest, I don't really follow Beyonce's music. *backs out of thread*

gdt · Feb 8, 2017

Seems like it was all cleared but the estate wants some cash.

cordy · Feb 8, 2017

She probably got that on the dash lol. Chump change to B.

PHOENIXZERO · Feb 8, 2017

Beysus said:
WTF are you talking about?

It's called TAKING INSPIRATION

One of those lead to this recent gem.

Beyonces Clothing Line Is Paying Sweatshop Workers 54 Cents/Hour, Sources Say

Galang · Feb 8, 2017

Lol. Even IF it wasn't cleared they really want 20 million for two lines in a song that wasn't even close to being a major hit? Okay. They would be lucky to get more than $50,000 for this

daffy · Feb 8, 2017

valkillmore said:
Or, you know . . . write something original and have someone say that

this man listening to beethoven's 9th on wax

Frozenprince · Feb 8, 2017

dave is ok said:
This is like the nine hundredth time she's been accused of stealing other people's music.

Why am I not surprised it's you playing the "she guilty" card.

AyaisMUsikWhore · Feb 8, 2017

Wafflecakes said:
That is because it is the nine hundredth time she has stolen music.

I thought it was pretty well known that she has no music writing talent herself.

What does this have to do with a sample? And are we really doing this "writing" credits argument as if that makes every single artist credible?

spindashing · Feb 8, 2017

lmao people just NOT reading the OP

I have been guilty of doing so in the past but wow

EatinOlives · Feb 8, 2017

dave is ok said:
This is like the nine hundredth time she's been accused of stealing other people's music.

Wafflecakes said:
That is because it is the nine hundredth time she has stolen music.

I thought it was pretty well known that she has no music writing talent herself.

A voice sample is "stealing music"?

Bruh

Wafflecakes · Feb 8, 2017

AyaisMUsikWhore said:
What does this have to do with a sample? And are we really doing this "writing" credits argument as if that makes every single artist credible?

Nothing.

However, it has everything to do with the post I quoted.

killu4what · Feb 8, 2017

It's more like paying homage than stealing.

giant_frying_pan · Feb 8, 2017

Zeus The Dino said:
Who?

Beyoncé Carter, née Knowles, rose to prominence as part of a group called Destiny's Child and went on to perform at the Superbowl a couple of times.

gconsole · Feb 8, 2017

Wafflecakes said:
That is because it is the nine hundredth time she has stolen music.

I thought it was pretty well known that she has no music writing talent herself.

Damn... I never realize Beyonce wrote all of her songs!

spindashing · Feb 8, 2017

Edit: oops

Diprosalic · Feb 8, 2017

20 million for a voice sample lol. that youtuber would've probably freaked out if he knew and they got paid too?
non-story.

valkillmore said:
Or, you know . . . write something original and have someone say that

this was a tribute of sorts to a non-conventional person, someone who was proud of what he was.

Before his death, the New Orleans rapper and comedian was know for his "fluorescent hair shades and caustic barbs." His popular YouTube channel hosted clips of him savagely, and often pretty funnily, joking about people who lived in his neighborhood and the violence that permeated the area.

he got shot and killed back in 2010.
his estate got compensated.

Raylan · Feb 8, 2017

Zeus The Dino said:
Who?

=

LionPride · Feb 8, 2017

Can people just not fucking read?

SaintZ · Feb 8, 2017

Beyoncé sued for stealing?

Malyse · Feb 9, 2017

LionPride said:
Can people just not fucking read?

SaintZ said:
Beyoncé sued for stealing?

... no.

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