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Star Citizen Alpha 3.0 Detailed, As Creator Says It's The Most Ambitious Game Ever
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That is also explained in the letter.
Not anything like this game that's for sure.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
That's cool and all, and I'm looking forward to Star Citizen, but I don't think there's anything particularly special about this. RSI are always putting out these kinds of statements.
The interesting part will be seeing the awesome planet stuff when 3.0 actually hits.
The interesting part will be seeing the awesome planet stuff when 3.0 actually hits.
malboroking
Banned
All I want is a game that combines the flight model of Elite with the economics and strategy of EVE. Is Star Citizen going to have a player run economy?
metareferential
Member
Too late, first post got you covered (kinda).
Can't wait to actually get my hands on this. I don't get the hate, and I don't even want to understand xD
BarringGaffner
Member
Isn't 1.0 supposed to be an actually completed game?
DiscoJer
Member
I dunno. While they never panned out, Derek Smart had ridiculously ambitious (and similar) plans for his Battlecruiser series. You were supposed to be able to do all that. Explore a galaxy, get out and walk on planets or whatever.
Chris Roberts is much more likely to actually achieve it, but the general idea has been around a while.
Chris Roberts is much more likely to actually achieve it, but the general idea has been around a while.
Well yeah, that's explained there by "deadlines can be missed and are mostly informative" but then, same answer: fingers crossed for them not missing them anymore.
Does Derrick actually make games?
Eolz
Member
This super informative video should be in the OP too.
It's about Star Citizen, but can be applied to most big video game productions really. Even thread-worthy imo
It's about Star Citizen, but can be applied to most big video game productions really. Even thread-worthy imo
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
If you've been following the dev and showcase videos, a lot of the features do indeed exist.
All planets were delayed from 3.0, current plan is to have 3 moons and as a stretch goal* a landing zone ( the one shown in gamescom 2016 demo )
The current 3.0 in the schedule report is much lighter than the one promised last year in august. Which is good in a way since this seems feasible actually, but disappointing at the same time given what was promised and hyped.
* might not make it in 3.0
Ritzboof
Member
this game still isnt out? or is it? i honestly dont know, i couldnt find the game for sale but its on version 3.0. in any case, i sure hope it isnt an NMS scale failure. "the most ambitions game ever" coming straight from them is definitely a good sign
obviously i hope the game comes out and succeeds, but this is a little weird
obviously i hope the game comes out and succeeds, but this is a little weird
lol
mercenar1e
Member
Squadron 42 was delayed until TBD
The single player demo that they wanted to showcase during Citizencon was canned at the very last minute due to minor animation issues.
Peroroncino
Member
I really hope they manage to pull it off and that it's gonna be everything the fanbase wanted, but as far as I'm concerned, the game is dead. It is possible that Squadron 42 will briefly reignite my interest in Star Citizen, but only for the duration of that campaign, the persistent universe aspect of the game however lost me after the third or so delay. People buying ships worth thousands of dollars also didn't help - I don't like paid advantages, especially in a game as expansive as this. But not all is doom and gloom, after I've ran out of patience and faith I've bought Elite Dangerous hoping it would scratch that space sim itch in desperate need of scratching [spoilers, it did, big time, will probably double dip when it releases on ps4].
Additionaly, I'm a bit surprised they still *will* be in an alpha stage... even after all this time, most ambitious game or not, that really doesn't bode well. I also wonder what monstrous PCs will be required for this game to run comfrotably in an online environment.
Additionaly, I'm a bit surprised they still *will* be in an alpha stage... even after all this time, most ambitious game or not, that really doesn't bode well. I also wonder what monstrous PCs will be required for this game to run comfrotably in an online environment.
I just want SQ42, that's literally all I care about, and I have this terrible dread that it'll be delayed from 2017.
Also, the computer it will take to run the full MMO portion well is going to be something else.
If this game is a failure, "NMS scale" will like comparing the size of a peanut, vs the moon.
Also, the computer it will take to run the full MMO portion well is going to be something else.
If this game is a failure, "NMS scale" will like comparing the size of a peanut, vs the moon.
uncredited male
Member
I cannot wait for Squadron 42 Episode 3 and Half-Life 3 to drop on the same day.
Time to add "scorpio"
Tranqueris
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This is the most annoying part about all the "it's a scam" comments that come up whenever Star Citizen gets mentioned. It's really not that hard to keep up with this game, I pay attention to it maybe once every 2-3 months and it's pretty apparent that there's work being done on it. If you wanna criticize the pace of development or the features then cool, have at it, but the "it's all a scam" comments just seem like the laziest opinion anyone can have about Star Citizen.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Yeah, they produce and publish quite a few videos each week as well. They're pretty transparent about their bugs and other production challenges as well.
Comandr
Member
Really excited to see continued developments moving forward.
Updated the game the other day for the first time in... a year? Astounded by how much better the performance is on my PC. I have an 4790k and two 970s. I was getting .. okay performance before at 1080p on reasonably high settings. Now I get perfect 60fps on very high, and ...playable performance at 4k at the same quality settings.
So under the hood I can testify that things are progressing.
Now I just need a release date for my cutlass black rework.
I think if anyone watches the "cargo" video they'll see the incredible amount of work that goes into making just one system work. We would normally never see this kind of thing for a game in development. It would just get delayed year after year and we'd never be told why and just accept it.
Then you have a game like this with completely transparent development and happens to also be doing some genuinely incredible stuff for gameplay and people throw their hands up screaming scam, vaporware, and scorpio. I don't get it.
Updated the game the other day for the first time in... a year? Astounded by how much better the performance is on my PC. I have an 4790k and two 970s. I was getting .. okay performance before at 1080p on reasonably high settings. Now I get perfect 60fps on very high, and ...playable performance at 4k at the same quality settings.
So under the hood I can testify that things are progressing.
Now I just need a release date for my cutlass black rework.
I think if anyone watches the "cargo" video they'll see the incredible amount of work that goes into making just one system work. We would normally never see this kind of thing for a game in development. It would just get delayed year after year and we'd never be told why and just accept it.
Then you have a game like this with completely transparent development and happens to also be doing some genuinely incredible stuff for gameplay and people throw their hands up screaming scam, vaporware, and scorpio. I don't get it.
'Scam' gets thrown around a lot by detractors and supporters but there are different degrees.
Do I think SC is a deliberate money-swindling scheme waiting to cross some arbitrary threshold when Roberts & Co will go "sucks to be you!" and make a dash for Mexico? Of course not.
But I do think there have been many convenient lies of omission and the prioritising of creating new spaceships for people to buy to rake in some extra dough to sustain the bloated development process.
I believe the game will miss all its deadlines and be stuck in long and painful Early Access period that will sour most players.
ScatheZombie
Member
5+ years development and you're only on JIRA 76,000 something?
MMO devs everywhere are chuckling under their breath at your humble-brag about a number that actually isn't impressive to anyone who has worked on a giant game using JIRA as a task/bug tracker.
Ya'll ain't granular enough in task tracking. Or are wizards who don't make a lot of bugs.
MMO devs everywhere are chuckling under their breath at your humble-brag about a number that actually isn't impressive to anyone who has worked on a giant game using JIRA as a task/bug tracker.
Ya'll ain't granular enough in task tracking. Or are wizards who don't make a lot of bugs.
It's specifically called Star Citizen Alpha 3.0. The full game will come without the "Alpha" part.
There's no such thing as a industry standard for version numbering.
I just skimmed the video and they were talking about managing weight distribution of your cargo in your ship and I guess to me that sounds more like a job than a game. Game just seems way too big to me. And I'm not talking about their ability to complete it... I'm talking like, I don't have time to live a second life as a space freighter or whatever.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
Ah, that's a bit more underwhelming than I was hoping for. Thanks for the info though! As you say, starting with some moons seems like a more sensible kick-off point anyway (and should have been what they projected for in the first place).
Who knows where SQ42 is at this point but it always seems to me like they have so many basic gameplay systems (AI, Boarding, docking, etc) still in development that there is no way in hell it's seeing the light of day this year. Which is fine, best for them to take their time, but they should really stop putting dates to things. I feel like they're so tied up in the hype machine that they feel obliged to give out dates and things when they should really just keep that aspect quiet.
mercenar1e
Member
Did someone say creating new spaceships!?! Well the Banu Defender will be the next new ship at $185. Information to be released this week.
lol
Would you mind explaining this JIRA stuff, to the uninitiated?
Yeah, like, why are they wasting money and dev time on that bullshit?
JIRA's a tool for tracking tasks and bugs in a project, among other things. ScatheZombie's complaint likely refers to how that 76'000 figure, which refers to the number of tasks or bugs referenced in the system, may seem impressive to the uninitiated but its actually super low for a 5 years software development project, which means only the project's broad strokes are tracked and/or more generally that the tracking is incomplete or inaccurate due to people not referencing their tasks, which would defeat the purpose of the tool.
coughlanio
Member
SemVer is staring to become that I think, but I don't think that's what SC is using, nor would it make much sense for games.
ScatheZombie
Member
Exactly this. On one MMO project we were on JIRA 500,000 something after 5 years. On another I had over 2,000 bugs and tasks on just my queue alone for a single monthly content update. It adds up incredibly fast and 76,000 is actually an incredibly low number for the team size, project scope and development time.
Assuming you are using JIRA as your primary bug and task tracker and have an appropriate level of detail branching into dozens, or hundreds, of sub-tasks.
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