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James Comey's opening statement for tomorrow's hearing posted online
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aspiegamer
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Bringing up the dossier unsolicited? Uh huh. And I didn't know Steele was testifying in front of the Senate tomorrow, lol.
Basically more confirmation that it's all true.
Basically more confirmation that it's all true.
I don't even know why this is a talking point. So he may not have been personally the target at certain points in Feb/Mar. Big whoop?
Mr.Shrugglesã
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It's a sad state of affairs when it's celebrated that the fucking potus didn't lie.
Nazgul_Hunter
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This whole meme of "Comey told Trump 3 times he wasn't under investigation" meme is whataboutism at its finest.
The President of the United States tried to obstruct justice. He did so maliciously (asking potential witnesses to leave) and then one-upped Richard Nixon by firing the FBI director; and then lied to the public and tried to cover up the whole thing.
Let's say this together...
It. doesn't. matter. if Trump colluded with Russia.
He's already done worse than Nixon.
The President of the United States tried to obstruct justice. He did so maliciously (asking potential witnesses to leave) and then one-upped Richard Nixon by firing the FBI director; and then lied to the public and tried to cover up the whole thing.
Let's say this together...
It. doesn't. matter. if Trump colluded with Russia.
He's already done worse than Nixon.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Trump is the only politician that can say his campaign being investigated has nothing to do with him as a defense.
Osiris
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I love the rock and hard place the WH admin have placed themselves in.
They need to attack Comeys credibility, yet at the same time the defence strategy they have chosen over the last few hours requires them to champion parts of Comey's testimony as completely credible.
"He's not credible, except in the instances where he's said things we find helpful, those are credible >.>"
It weakens any attack on his credibility whilst at the same time decimating their own, which let's face it, is already fractured beyond repair.
Wonderful!
They need to attack Comeys credibility, yet at the same time the defence strategy they have chosen over the last few hours requires them to champion parts of Comey's testimony as completely credible.
"He's not credible, except in the instances where he's said things we find helpful, those are credible >.>"
It weakens any attack on his credibility whilst at the same time decimating their own, which let's face it, is already fractured beyond repair.
Wonderful!
Bam Bam Baklava
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They do the same shit with the media and it never occurred to them how stupid it is.
Yes you can? In fact sex tourism is basically the go to example.
gutter_trash
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Comey is going to disapoint IMO, he has disapointed for the past year.
I don't have much faith in him to bring enough damning points to pin Trump on obstruction of justice.
Comey is going to dance around his words to make everything sound "lighter" than what it really is
I don't have much faith in him to bring enough damning points to pin Trump on obstruction of justice.
Comey is going to dance around his words to make everything sound "lighter" than what it really is
SenjutsuSage
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Comey quite clearly didn't give up everything in that statement. There's likely something more he has left out.
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King Tubby
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He's not going to be completely forthcoming about everything in the open hearing tomorrow, either. There's a reason he discussed this with Mueller. Lots of stuff is going to remain classified.
OriginofHysteria
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It's also very open ended. Like you can make a book out of follow up questions.
Not even remotely. He's never even talked about it publicly, let alone "debunked" it.
SenjutsuSage
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True, but there are specific bombs I still think Comey has to drop.
He's only going to disappoint if you think he's about to further the investigation In public with bombs. This is about his meetings with trump.
What are yall doing.
Of course not. Steele simply admitted that his sources' claims in the dossier still needed to be verified.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politics/donald-trump-spy-dossier/index.html
Not to this sorry bunch of fucks controlling the house and Senate. So it's not gonna really matter if it's not some serious shit. I'm just praying for miracles next year and in 2020.
MagnaderAlpha
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It started with Flynn and Manafort first, didn't it? At THAT time, that was the focus of the investigation. If, between then and now, lines were drawn and that eventually led to other "people" being tied to the investigation, they couldn't possibly know that back then. Since then, though, ground has been made and list of "persons of interest" has grown.
Yeah, people gotta remember, we are in June, time passed and where the investigation was back then is definitely not where the investigation is NOW.
Maiden Voyage
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We must not have watched the same hearings.
Dubbedinenglish
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If Trump took one, just one hard stance against Putin/Russia this would go away. But every single thing regarding Russia has to be handled in the most shady way possible.
gutter_trash
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I want the orange turd impeached now, this whole dancing on the damning is getting tiresome
The part where Trump asks Comey to make the Flynn investigation go away
Bam Bam Baklava
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This says a lot about what people are willing to let politicians get away with.
EatinOlives
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"Am I under investigation?" isn't all that different from all the douchebags in those KNOW YOUR RIGHTS YouTube channels constantly shouting "AM I UNDER ARREST? AM I UNDER ARREST? AM I UNDER ARREST?"
And yet, nearly all those people were still in trouble regardless.
And yet, nearly all those people were still in trouble regardless.
This is a good tweet thread that offers a more realistic summary of where we are and where we are headed than some people will acknowledge.
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/872603691337093125
(Click the tweet in Nate Silver's retweet to open the thread; I posted Nate's RT to offer the author credibility since he is not verified)
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/872603691337093125
(Click the tweet in Nate Silver's retweet to open the thread; I posted Nate's RT to offer the author credibility since he is not verified)
Important to mention the context of him asking those damning requests in a room that he dismissed his VP and Attorney General from. Plus the fact that he fired Comey soon after.
crazy monkey
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Agreed.
nephilimdj
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Ziltoidia 9
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Hearing that Kushner stuck around trying to be in the room during the 1 on 1 meeting, gives me even more alarm bells.
Shogmaster
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I don't know if its already been answered, but is there a streaming youtube channel for the hearing tomorrow?
King Tubby
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How isn't it? It's still trying to get the FBI to drop its investigation into one of his senior staff appointments. Not to mention that Flynn is intimately tied with both the Trump administration and Russia.
EatinOlives
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When did Chris Steele "debunk" his dossier?
He didn't. That's a lie. In fact, CNN has said that the FBI has corroborated some of it.
Hardly obstruction though. Comey himself had a hard time interpreting it. It was a professional remark that should never have happened but not illegal. If this is what Comey is going to testify with tomorrow then it's going to be 3.5 more years unless someone can provide some physical evidence of obstruction.
Pretty sure the President can pardon Flynn no matter what the outcome anyway.
TheLaughingStock
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Jeffrey Toobin basically put this all to bed just now on CNN.
TheSchwab_7
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What's he saying?
gutterboy44
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Not if the impeachment process begins before Flynn is convicted. That is one of the few pardon exceptions, you can't pardon anyone associated with an on going impeachment process.
Herr Schwarz
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Did someone say that Steele of dossier fame is appearing tomorrow?
Dubbedinenglish
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He then said the same to his DNI, CIA head and followed up by firing Comey to end the investigation. Comedy's testimony tomorrow will lay out the intent and timetable for Trump's obstruction.
TheCochese
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That can mean several things.
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