Admiral Woofington
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It's like arrested development levels of incest thirst, only they aren't doing it as a joke.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO
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Still waiting to see how Bran's helpful in any way. Arya and Bran's worldly developed skills seem way too valuable to spend combined on Littlefinger. It's a pretty big downgrade for Arya from the start of the season, to go from murdering the Freys & targeting Cersei, to being duped by Littlefinger in Winterfell.
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Cpt.Underpants
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Team 7 could've at least forged obsidian weapons before they went to beyond the wall. At least one of 'em
My theory for the rest of the season: Daenerys is going to die.
I just don't see how Game of Thrones has an interesting season 8 if either (a) Cersi is killed/exiled or (b) the Daenerys/Lannister conflict is continued to be drawn out.
Once the Lannister/Daenerys conflict is resolved, you're left with a boring and 1-dimensional conflict against the White Walkers. Unless the resolution is in the Lannister's favor.
Ending the Danny/Lannister conflict also risks denying so many satisfying scenes that just feel like they have to be there. The Hound vs The Mountain, Arya vs Cersi, etc.
If I were writing the show, I'd have Cersi kill Daenerys and the dragons go wild. Season 8 could then focus on Jon Snow discovering his true identity and trying to tame the dragons he needs to win the war, while also giving breathing room for the Starks to encounter conflict as they're forced south.
I just don't see how Game of Thrones has an interesting season 8 if either (a) Cersi is killed/exiled or (b) the Daenerys/Lannister conflict is continued to be drawn out.
Once the Lannister/Daenerys conflict is resolved, you're left with a boring and 1-dimensional conflict against the White Walkers. Unless the resolution is in the Lannister's favor.
Ending the Danny/Lannister conflict also risks denying so many satisfying scenes that just feel like they have to be there. The Hound vs The Mountain, Arya vs Cersi, etc.
If I were writing the show, I'd have Cersi kill Daenerys and the dragons go wild. Season 8 could then focus on Jon Snow discovering his true identity and trying to tame the dragons he needs to win the war, while also giving breathing room for the Starks to encounter conflict as they're forced south.
velociraptor
Junior Member
That would make for some interesting TV.
I'm thinking the opposite, cersei dies, dany and the gang go north, season 7 is about the battle for the dawn.
So you think we're going to have 8 episodes, each 90+ minutes, of "world vs White Walkers"?
I just don't believe that Season 8 is going to be 14 hours of "everyone vs White Walkers." Someone needs to be at play, which means that somehow the Lannisters need to stay relevant.
I think they're setting us up for Daenerys losing this war.
Lannisters win gives a lot of breathing room for season 8 plot lines. The Starks would be forced to go south again. Arya's list would still be relevant. The continent would still need to be unified. We'd see a ton of character development for Missandei and Grey Worm.
Edit: Just imagine... Cersi suddenly kills Daenerys. Dragons go crazy and burn/scatter the Dothraki. World left in absolute chaos as the White Walkers move in. Jon Snow has to become Jon Targareyan, tame the dragons, and unite the world.
"Les Dragons Dangereux"
Human Trashcan
Banned
I'll admit I'm curious how this season will end because if this were a normal 10-season episode, it would feel like they're heading for the big climax(es).
Camp Freddie
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Tyrion going to KL was the worst idea in this episode. I mean, he's literally the most recognisable man in the city.
If the actor Kevin Eldon recognised him, I reckon lots of others would. I'm not sure how he finds Bron so easily.
And if Cersei knew about the meeting, why would she pass up the opportunity to catch Tyrion?
The suicide squad plan seems pretty dumb too. I'm pretty sure Cersei would see Wights as her best ally against King Jon rather than than the other way round.
Gendry is too much fanservice. He knows how to smith Valyrian Steel so it made sense to get him to help the war effort. But now he's just a footsoldier.
Could Cersei's child be the Valonquar? Her mother died in childbirth after all. I'm guessing not, but it'd be one hell of a twist.
I guess next week is the big ice battle, and the final episode is Cleganebowl at the summit of the 2 queens.
If the actor Kevin Eldon recognised him, I reckon lots of others would. I'm not sure how he finds Bron so easily.
And if Cersei knew about the meeting, why would she pass up the opportunity to catch Tyrion?
The suicide squad plan seems pretty dumb too. I'm pretty sure Cersei would see Wights as her best ally against King Jon rather than than the other way round.
Gendry is too much fanservice. He knows how to smith Valyrian Steel so it made sense to get him to help the war effort. But now he's just a footsoldier.
Could Cersei's child be the Valonquar? Her mother died in childbirth after all. I'm guessing not, but it'd be one hell of a twist.
I guess next week is the big ice battle, and the final episode is Cleganebowl at the summit of the 2 queens.
Gendry can smith Valyrian steel?
I want this to happen so bad, the other thread would go on full meltdown mode.
I just don't think D&D have the balls to do it.
His master could in the books iirc.
There is zero chance Dany dies before the end of the show. The real purpose of her dragons is to be used against the white walkers, I don't see them just happily agreeing to getting controlled by other people after their mum dies.
p.s. fuck Cersei. I imagine that in the books the alliance against the dead would be Jon, Dany and fAegon (if they're even remotely anything like the show), which would make much more sense that we currently are going to potentially have. Although I wonder if Dany will actually leave Essos by the end of TWOW.
p.s. fuck Cersei. I imagine that in the books the alliance against the dead would be Jon, Dany and fAegon (if they're even remotely anything like the show), which would make much more sense that we currently are going to potentially have. Although I wonder if Dany will actually leave Essos by the end of TWOW.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Yeah! That stood out to me straight away. Imagine it's all one big red herring and Dany ends up being the child of rhaegar and lyanna :') would be ballsy but don't see it.
The opening of AGoT iirc
Yeah! It would have been cool to have Howland Reed about to flesh it out some more.
Lord of Castamere
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I'm positive that's the only reason Merra left. To go get Howland Reed and the frogman army. Probably not until next season though.
I was gonna be like how the hell is the Mountain gonna get from Kings Landing to beyond the Wall in two episodes but then I remembered he'd probably just borrow Euron's teleport.
Cpt.Underpants
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nah
Prologue
When Waymar Royce was surrounded by the Others. Instead of piling on the the dude. Only one white walker/other stepped forward to fight him. They have some kind of code of honor
Lord of Castamere
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I'm pissed we missed the reunion of Tyrion of Bron. Like they decided, "Nah, I guess no ones interested in that dialogue exchange." Instead here's a tame shock reveal.
Cpt.Underpants
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Gendry needs to be legitimized first
those exist?
As he's literally the only living baratheon it wouldn't be that hard. Gendry legit has the most solid claim to the throne on the show right now lol, at least disregarding having armies, capital, allies, etc to take it. Just as a familial claim he has the best claim over any targs or lannisters as cersei doesn't have a legit claim at all and the targs were already ousted.
Edit: wait if all "baratheon" cersei children are gone does that legitimately give cersei the throne? I suppose as there isn't anyone else.
thats disgusting
WrenchNinja
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They were supposed to hook up in GRRM's original vision for the books IIRC. Course Arya was more like a combination of Sansa and Arya or something.
Cersei has no legitimate claim on the throne. Either you'd have to find some cousin of Robert's or possibly no one has any claim as that cousin wouldn't descend from any royalty as Robert was the first Baratheon king.
We have 1 season left, of 6 episodes. 8 episodes left in the series from today.
While it would be an interesting dynamic to see cersei truly become #1 Queen and take over, it doesn't feel like the series is headed that way. We gotta remember this is D&D we're talking about.
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I think it's more likely that Dany's existence in the series is to defeat the WW's. In the show i think it's going to be quite... tropish. She goes north, a dragon or 2 dies, or even 3, and we're left with jon having to defeat the WW (as we originally thought from the earlier seasons).
My biggest thing that will never happen is that Jon is AA, and uses his sword to Nissa Nissa Dany so he can finally end the WW's, but that feels more like a book thing than TV series.
Jon's got Longclaw, Thoros got "Litebringer", Gendry can crush all the skeletons into bonedust, maybe the zombies will break their toofs on Jorah's stone-arm, and the Hound... is effed.
Well that was some speed there...
- I imagined some would complain about the breakneck speed the show is moving on now, but I don't care. I loved the slow build ups from previous seasons, but I appreciate the pacing now.
- Daenny is such a ruthless woman. Gatdamn. Tyrion feeling useless and meeting up with Jaime was neat though. Bron remains a winner. "If those dragons come to King's Landing, you are fucked." "You mean we?" "No, you, because when dragons appear I draw the line"
- Gendry? Man, that was a while ago. Lol at all the scenes with Davos. The man is fantastic.
- Cersei being Cersei.
- Oh Little Finger, you sly trickster, death awaits you.
- Jon and his merry band of men better come back. I need Tormund to fuck some shit up.
- I imagined some would complain about the breakneck speed the show is moving on now, but I don't care. I loved the slow build ups from previous seasons, but I appreciate the pacing now.
- Daenny is such a ruthless woman. Gatdamn. Tyrion feeling useless and meeting up with Jaime was neat though. Bron remains a winner. "If those dragons come to King's Landing, you are fucked." "You mean we?" "No, you, because when dragons appear I draw the line"
- Gendry? Man, that was a while ago. Lol at all the scenes with Davos. The man is fantastic.
- Cersei being Cersei.
- Oh Little Finger, you sly trickster, death awaits you.
- Jon and his merry band of men better come back. I need Tormund to fuck some shit up.
Gendry hammering some steel in the Winterfell forge.
Arya: "I've got something you can bang on."
*Direwolf sex noises*
Psychoward
Banned
wasn't tyrion the one who suggested the boneheaded plan to sneak in to KL without any disguise or hood to somehow contact bronn to meet jaime who he couldn't have known was alive at the time (again why didn't they scout for him/search the water!!) to tell cersei who hates his guts to meet them so they can show them a white walker and then all engage in jolly co-operation and cersei would never use them to be opportunistic?
lol
Psychoward
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arya/gendry would be creepy as shit considering maisie williams was like 14(?) when she started adventuring with gendry
so naturally tumblr is gonna have a field day
so naturally tumblr is gonna have a field day
elrechazado
Banned
You don't forge obsidian. You need a first class chipper for that.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-EGAtLGDU7M
What do you "have"? They started 5 years ago.
Lyanna was 15/16 when married with two 30+ Rhaegar ran off with her. Arya + Gendry was always supposed to happen and GRRM isn't backing out of it even without the time skip, and I don't think the show will either.
Rhaegar was 24.
I think you can have more equitable feudal rulers than others though I guess?
Yeah. Chrys does seem to liberally rewrite the narrative for the joke to land. Basically an abridged parody.
Also with the whole being super worried about the hammer in the boat was that supposed to be Robert's hammer or something? Was that valyrian steel?
Edit: yeah I'm pretty sure that's what the show runners were alluding with that, so good on them.
Honestly Gendry does have a pretty solid claim to the throne having Robert's hammer and pretty solid witnesses to his birthright. Maybe D&D are gonna try a whole king Gendry deal with an Arya north alliance and get the council in KL to go along with it. Maybe neither Dany or Jon will make it to the Iron throne. Seems more likely this would be something GRRM would have happen and outlined to D&D.
That's always been a lurking possibility. Books imply that Tywin was cuckolded by the Mad King.
I really hope it doesn't go that way, though. Makes a total mess of the Tywin / Tyrion relationship.
cj_iwakura
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Someone at work told me this exact theory. Good lord.
John Dunbar
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how long did jaime and bronn have to hold their breaths to surface that far away from the dragon?