Christina Mackenzie
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Dark Souls Mafia |OT| Git Gud or Die Trying
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Muffin1611
Banned
This is what I'm talking about. Incredibly vague justifications ("I agree with Sawneeks" "You're misdirecting on the neutral")
How am I misdirecting on the neutral? The biggest part of me talking about the neutral was mostly me asking other people if I understood their summaries and calculations on the neutral correctly. It's not like I made a huge thing about it, and I don't see how you'd come to that conclusion.
To me it looks like you threw that "misdirection" line a few pages back out there to make it seem like you're on to something others aren't, and now coming up with what you meant after the fact.
Muffin1611
Banned
Sawneeks made a few good posts, but I'm not entirely convinced on her, somewhere between neutral and slightly townie for me I guess, but not so much that I would go out of my way to mention it.
Also I'm worrying about my read on monkey a bit. I worry that I'm just liking her general playstyle and putting her down as townie for it, when she might act very similar as scum.
Are there any games you were scum in before, monkey?
hey_monkey
Banned
I have never been scum in GAFia outside of live mafia.
Muffin1611
Banned
Welp, there goes my chance to look for differences in play that ScumMonkey might have.
hey_monkey
Banned
The only difference here is that I'm pretty frustrated with the relative silence.
oreomunsta
Banned
Okay well how can I make this more clear for you? I'll cooperate in what ways I can. Creating a post history like Sawneeks's, however, isn't feasible for me as I'm on mobile and a little busy today, so I pointed to their summary
This is definitely the quietest Gafia game I've been in so far. When oreo is hitting the minimum post count regularly, something is wrong
Lord of Castamere
Member
The problem I have with voting Muffin is that while he's not taking a hard stance( that's pretty normal right now though, like Oreo who just slapped a vote on muffin), but he's been active today. Discussing and arguing.
Someone explain why I should vote muffin over someone else?
Someone explain why I should vote muffin over someone else?
Muffin1611
Banned
I'm not saying that you have to do lengthy post histories.
I'm saying that you didn't show me (and I don't think that you can) how I specifically am shifting focus on the neutral and away from discussions about who acts scummy or not. I'm pretty sure that there are several people who discussed the neutral more than me, which I also don't necessarily see as something scummy depending on how it's done.
So the fact that you're saying this doesn't really convince me that your supposed observations on neutral discussions are a genuine concern to you. It just looks like you were searching for a reason others haven't mentioned to make people look scummy. And as soon as you were pressed on it you couldn't clarify.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
VOTE: StanleyPalmtree
Going back to my initial vote.
Going back to my initial vote.
hey_monkey
Banned
Echoing LoC: why should I vote for Stan over anyone else?
hey_monkey
Banned
Can we get a count for the new page?
Lord of Castamere
Member
If the vote stayed tied, I'll switch to CB. I don't really trust anyone on the block right now, but I like the people voting for CB more than the people voting for the others, if that makes any sense.
so you gonna jump back on stanley?
I haven't felt good about Stan for a while now. Corn has fallen flat for me with some pretty weak analysis, but I feel like Stan has been pretty flippant with his posting and contributions. I feel like the latter is more harmful than the former. Muffin is a town read for me right now, and I'm neutral on Oreo. I'm feeling pretty good on Hey_Monkey and LoC. Since we still have time, I'm going to look back at the last page before I drop a vote.
good morning friends, give me a minute to read and get some responses going.
Did you also go to a wrestling event?? I was at WWE Raw on Monday. o:
Did you also go to a wrestling event?? I was at WWE Raw on Monday. o:
hey_monkey
Banned
I see where you're coming from, and Stan is pretty flip but I disagree about your conclusion. CornBurrito is clearly not reading but Stan is just stanning. I might jump on Stan on d3 or d4 but to me it's not conclusive at this point.
Am I alone in feeling iffy on Verelios? I don't see that getting traction today but I'd love to discuss my big post above.
2 OMGUS votes in such a short span on time?? Come on people, we can do better than that. :<
Question, why did you go for Stan when the vast majority of your post throws shade on everyone else who ISN'T Stan? Because it sounds like you were going to go for Kits, Corn, Nin, or Trigger and then suddenly just slapped a vote on him.
Thank you for the analysis post, Monkey.
It does basically reiterate what I felt in my re-read reads list about him: has a lot of scummy posts but then comes in with some really Townie posts too. Interesting that he was accusing me of 'appearing' to be active only to turn around and do the same thing himself with little follow-up.
Would not be against moving there. :x
All those posts I listed were about 90% of what he had done just this Day Phase alone. Lots of talk and no pushes, it's only now that he's in the limelight that he comes in and defends himself and is talking more.
Personally I think he's '''contributing''' enough to look active and engaged but there isn't much going on under the surface.
hey_monkey
Banned
The continual votes on Stan in general kind of puzzle me. Of everyone in the game right now... why Stan?
Muffin1611
Banned
My read on Stan is also completely null tbh. I don't see a reason to vote him.
Except you take the fact that he's not really out there as reason to vote him, but then again, many people fall under that category right now.
Except you take the fact that he's not really out there as reason to vote him, but then again, many people fall under that category right now.
Also not a huge fan of the OMGUS vote again here.
and I don't get how Muffin is doing that. Not pushing anything sure, but I don't see the misdirection.
Day 2 will end with a silent fart again.
Monkey and I are willing to discuss other candidates but no one is talking and are just sitting on OMGUS votes. :<
Why still on Kits over anyone else, Nin? Why not push for her more if you think she is Scum.
I'm not fully decided on Verelios. Our back and forth felt genuine, but you've got a point on his prods and lack of scum hunting.
This is a possibility. My gut can't differentiate between this being the play of a reactive scummy player or just a shy townie. It's easier to defend yourself than to be proactive and accuse other players. Sometimes I think he's just not very confrontational.
She seems to be fhe exact same person as in LB2 and she was Scum there. Strong scum vibes on that part aswell her lack of substance in the little posts she made.
When called out she pulled the rl card, which is of course viable but not an excuse for being a complete non entity.
I feel ok about you and 🐵 but that does not mean shit since both of you are great players in my eyes who can fool anyone.
Who i want to see gone ogher than kits?
Dont know but will make a follow up post
Then we're still in the realm of my four scenarios
Some mechanics thoughts and more math on the game. Appreciated, weirdly scarce of anything else, but appreciate the math
Push for No lynch turbo, adequate reason that we wouldn't get anything done regardless if it's a no lynch day but doesn't seem very interested in doing much else but math in the first place.Yeah, but you usually have the previous day's flip to go off, too.
In this game, we don't have the luxury of looking back on flips from town lynches with a confimation of whether town got it wrong or right. Basically, town gafia will town gafia harder than we normally do
I've shared my math, so hopefully no one still wonders why I'm doing this, but I'm going to push for the turbo.
Vote: No Lynch
...I legit believe he made his list piggybacking off of the Page's current discussion. Also, no time for post analysis but more than enough time to create a probability line? Ok.
Gut reads, doesn't elaborate on what feelings he has.
I mean, usually when someone is making a guess they're inferring from information they've seen or how they've felt. Oreo doesn't convey any of this, he's doing the bare minimum to make sure he can plop a vote down later on and say 'See, See, I did have suspicions beforehand so my vote is supported'.Sorry Muffin
They're also not necessarily related to neutral talk. I just pitched in on the neutral because some people were acting as if it was a mystery and good enough reason to throw out all the numbers some of us worked on, where we can understand the limits of what neutral can or can't do
Right.
Vote: Oreomunsta
It's an issue of his play style coming across scummy, I think. He's seemingly tossing out votes and not very interested in the game. He's an easy option.
hey_monkey
Banned
I could vote for kitsunelaine. Another who's just not doing much - but I don't see the forced attempts at activity in LB2 so I don't see her acting the same.
When you're trying to get a reaction wouldn't you usually have a relevant topic to discuss? Was anything of the such done?
Muffin1611
Banned
A vote count would be appreciated.
That's possible but I feel like there would be a difference between confrontational and just not solving the game and Muffin edges over into the latter category.
And that's where I guess we disagree. :<
I'm not seeing LB2 Kits here, a quiet Kits sure, but not a Scummy one.
would like a follow up on others even if it's just a little bit.
tbh that's how I feel about the Nin and CornBro votes too - they feel too easy.
Muffin1611
Banned
@Verelios, I think your vote isn't picked up by the voting tool, since you spelled the first letter in capital.
hey_monkey
Banned
I have very strong feelings about CornBurrito. Mine's not an easy vote.
Muffin1611
Banned
^Nvm lol, suddenly it's counted
Muffin1611
Banned
Oreo lynch seems to lead right now with 3.
Vote count would be appreciated
I know your's, and other's, feel strongly about him but I can't see it. He just hasn't been around and keeps making mistakes and that's really it, a target to easily gravitate to. I have trouble reading that strongly and it just feels like a 'you keep messing up, knock it off' and not really a 'you're scum' lynch.
I know your's, and other's, feel strongly about him but I can't see it. He just hasn't been around and keeps making mistakes and that's really it, a target to easily gravitate to. I have trouble reading that strongly and it just feels like a 'you keep messing up, knock it off' and not really a 'you're scum' lynch.
oreomunsta
Banned
Muffin1611
Banned
Are we really going to end the day with spread out votes and barely a plurality for somebody again? Time to prioritize between likely lynch candidates.
This looks like a perfect setup for another boring, uninformative and silent D3.
This looks like a perfect setup for another boring, uninformative and silent D3.
hey_monkey
Banned
I do not trust the votes on oreomunsta, who has been scum before and didn't play this way, and half the people I suspect are all together on that vote.
Muffin1611
Banned
I seem to be getting lots of supposed suspicion for "not being aggressive/confrontational" enough lately when half the game is way more silent than I am.
Looks like an easy excuse.
tbh this is why I haven't jumped over yet despite really not trusting Oreo right now. I don't like that both Muffin AND Vere are there, but at the same time I don't think anyone is biting on a Muffin lynch today.