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Are you happy with Sony's handling of the PS3's online community?
- Thread starter RSLAEV
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I'm only a light user of XBL; I play online but I don't really use party chat and stuff like that so much. Even then, I definitely appreciate some of the UX touches over the PSN experience: stuff like getting an invite, hitting guide and accepting feels a lot smoother than navigating around the games own UI or whatever.
I think that 'it's free' is a kinda-sorta valid defence, especially when you consider the 360 dash is peppered with non-targeted advertisement even if you pay the sub, but Sony are absolutely going to have to polish it for the future.
I think that 'it's free' is a kinda-sorta valid defence, especially when you consider the 360 dash is peppered with non-targeted advertisement even if you pay the sub, but Sony are absolutely going to have to polish it for the future.
davepoobond said:
I'm going to put myself in this camp. I just used a 3 month xbox live code I had laying around so I could play Gears 3 co-op - and it's fun, but I can have similar experiences for free on my PS3.
I use skype to chat with my friend regardless of which console we're playing. Lack of cross-game chat doesn't bother me.
If it weren't for exclusives I'd never buy an online game for 360 when I can just play it for free on PS3 and not have to worry if my Gold account is expired or not.
I will argue that the overall ease/usability gap of playing a first-party/top tier game that fully utilizes Xbox Live vs any random PS3 online game is pretty large.
corporate cheerleader
Member
Good:
- Free.
- If there are massive sales, they are REALLY good. PSP games can go as low as 5 bucks.
Bad:
- Official Sony websites are hosted on an Etch-A-Sketch server, always ridiculously slow for me.
- Horrible customer service. One glance at the forum helpdesk says it all.
- No mandatory demos for new PSN games or trials for minis. This might bug me the most.
- Publishers stick really, REALLY stupid price tags on the games and Sony pretty much allows it.
- FIX THE CLOCK. JESUS CHRIST.
- Free.
- If there are massive sales, they are REALLY good. PSP games can go as low as 5 bucks.
Bad:
- Official Sony websites are hosted on an Etch-A-Sketch server, always ridiculously slow for me.
- Horrible customer service. One glance at the forum helpdesk says it all.
- No mandatory demos for new PSN games or trials for minis. This might bug me the most.
- Publishers stick really, REALLY stupid price tags on the games and Sony pretty much allows it.
- FIX THE CLOCK. JESUS CHRIST.
Given the fact that I can join a party chat with my four online buds and seamlessly move from CoD to Gears to any other game without any disconnect whatsoever makes XBL appealing and worth every penny to me. That is something that just isn't available on any other console and a big reason I use XBL almost exclusively over PSN on a nightly basis.
Metalmurphy
Member
Sethos said:
Sure it is, isolated to certain regions. It all has to do with where the content servers are located. I max out my 30MB/s connection speed on my downloads.
It's not perfect but they got the online being free part down stat. Anyways, with XBL around, they'll have to keep adding features to keep their audience and they've done so since the launch of the PS3. They just have to keep adding new features and keep the pay gates optional for non essential services (cloud saving would be nice for free but I can live w/o it since I can back up most saves).
racemixing
Banned
no.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Live is better in every way imho but that's to be expected for a premium service with a subscription fee. Still, PSN still lags way behind in many areas. Even for a free service I think the download speeds, availability of demos, voice quality, de facto standard feature list, among other things, could all be better.
RSLAEV said:
You can do any of those at us.playstation.com.
Sounds like your beef is largely with Home. While Home isn't for everyone, I can tell you the people that do enjoy cultivating their online personas REALLY get into it. It's like any other game really, it's about the time you put into it.
kyo_daikun
Member
Would be nice if it was easier to report people who decide to send me 10 derogatory messages after they get butt hurt playing COD, yeah they get ignored but people who think this kind of stuff is suitable need a reality check or need to chillax.
A week ban may disuade them from sending other people shit in the future.
A week ban may disuade them from sending other people shit in the future.
SLEEPS7ALK3R
Banned
PantyPhantom said:
/thread.
I have no complains as it is has everything basic covered, unlike others, for free. As it should be.
i allows online play without any extra payment, you can enjoy all the features the games you already payed for ,offer.
it allows in-game standard features as messages,friend online status, text chat, and voice chat if the game needs it.
What else for basic gaming is needed? because cross game chat, while a nice feature, is just an extra feature, it is not a basic to chat with some who is playing another game or watching a movie while gaming, plus sound quality is not great and some people with moderate nat have issues often. Easier game invites would come first if some feature from XBL should be adopted in the future as it makes joining online games come convenient.
As for Store, well, it is a matter of personal taste and getting used to it, i can find enything i want and i am not that smart so anyone can.
Oh, and its free, yeah again, no matter if some get a year for 30 bucks. most people pay the full price, and once the generation ends and you realize that you have spent 60*X years, that is quite an amount of money that could be used in games or another console.
i allows online play without any extra payment, you can enjoy all the features the games you already payed for ,offer.
it allows in-game standard features as messages,friend online status, text chat, and voice chat if the game needs it.
What else for basic gaming is needed? because cross game chat, while a nice feature, is just an extra feature, it is not a basic to chat with some who is playing another game or watching a movie while gaming, plus sound quality is not great and some people with moderate nat have issues often. Easier game invites would come first if some feature from XBL should be adopted in the future as it makes joining online games come convenient.
As for Store, well, it is a matter of personal taste and getting used to it, i can find enything i want and i am not that smart so anyone can.
Oh, and its free, yeah again, no matter if some get a year for 30 bucks. most people pay the full price, and once the generation ends and you realize that you have spent 60*X years, that is quite an amount of money that could be used in games or another console.
Cold-Steel
Member
kyo_daikun said:
What do you mean? There's a Grief Report option for all of the messages you receive.
For example, if you're on BLOPS and are finished a match. Drop back into XMB, go to your Received messages, hit triangle on the message and go down to Grief Report. Takes like 10 seconds maximum to do one.
kyo_daikun
Member
Cold-Steel said:
Never noticed the option, never heard of Sony taking action against this kind of thing either, will use it in the future tho thanks.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Every time there's a discussion, XGC (cross game chat is considered a deal breaker) always comes into play
For some the $60 fee, yes $60, that is how much XBL costs, (yes you can go look for deals or wait for them too come along, but that alone tells you people don't want to pay for it) this feature is the be all, end all feature (include party chat in there too). If you think it's worth it yes, go ahead pay. From my viewpoint I think it's ridiculous to pay for those features.
We can banter back and forth of why this service is better and here are the reasons why, the main reason is friends and personal choice.
You missed Lince thread of him being banned due to talking some smack, and getting owned in the process
Full Force of the LAW!
For some the $60 fee, yes $60, that is how much XBL costs, (yes you can go look for deals or wait for them too come along, but that alone tells you people don't want to pay for it) this feature is the be all, end all feature (include party chat in there too). If you think it's worth it yes, go ahead pay. From my viewpoint I think it's ridiculous to pay for those features.
We can banter back and forth of why this service is better and here are the reasons why, the main reason is friends and personal choice.
kyo_daikun said:
You missed Lince thread of him being banned due to talking some smack, and getting owned in the process
Full Force of the LAW!
DjangoReinhardt
Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
Not at all. I'd rather spend the money for Live than use PSN for free. That's not what I expected to be doing at the beginning of this gen.
Infinite Justice
Member
GraveRobberX said:
The other good thing about that thread (the massive backfire was the first) was the conspiracy theories and the "he wouldn't do such a thing" responses.
Cold-Steel
Member
kyo_daikun said:
FYI - you need to be in actual XMB to do this, not in-game XMB
PSN works well for me, even though there's no cross game chat. It's free anyway so i don't expect much from it. At least it has all of the basic stuffs.
Thankfully PS Vita has cross game chat though, which means we will at least see this feature in PS4. And i believe PS4 will have a strong OS with many social features unlike the PS3, Sony would have learned their lesson by now.
Thankfully PS Vita has cross game chat though, which means we will at least see this feature in PS4. And i believe PS4 will have a strong OS with many social features unlike the PS3, Sony would have learned their lesson by now.
No problems here.
Free online as it should be.
Cross game chat is not important to me. When i'm online im in a squad or a party, i talk to them not to other people not playing the game i am playing. I don't want people paying attention to who their friends teacher hates or what girl in class hot. Which is probably why most people run off on their own, they dont want to talk to their teammates so they just rake up kill counts and talk to someone else not playing a game. It's useful for organizing a group, but then again, once organized you should be talking to the people on your team.
The playstation will one day get cross game chat and no one will care, I know i wont, i barely use my cellphone as a phone.
Sony's problem is consolidation or better yet lacking a standard.
If matchmaking worked great in one game and that company is a subsidiary of sony's why not have all the other devs under you look at the code and implement in all first party games going forward? same with chat system, etc.
Their websites kind of suck but i can usually get the info i need from neogar or other sites.
outside of that I have no issues, i can play all my online games just fine with no online fees.
Free online as it should be.
Cross game chat is not important to me. When i'm online im in a squad or a party, i talk to them not to other people not playing the game i am playing. I don't want people paying attention to who their friends teacher hates or what girl in class hot. Which is probably why most people run off on their own, they dont want to talk to their teammates so they just rake up kill counts and talk to someone else not playing a game. It's useful for organizing a group, but then again, once organized you should be talking to the people on your team.
The playstation will one day get cross game chat and no one will care, I know i wont, i barely use my cellphone as a phone.
Sony's problem is consolidation or better yet lacking a standard.
If matchmaking worked great in one game and that company is a subsidiary of sony's why not have all the other devs under you look at the code and implement in all first party games going forward? same with chat system, etc.
Their websites kind of suck but i can usually get the info i need from neogar or other sites.
outside of that I have no issues, i can play all my online games just fine with no online fees.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Besides the obvious cross game chat. It's free. Home is just to horde virtual items which I haven't paid 1 cent for. They could have made it where you sign in with one account for different regions instead of having multiple accounts. Cloud server is really nice if you have PS+. It saved me almost 5 years worth of game saves. Yea, I didn't back it up. Bottom line is it does what I need and that's all that matters.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Also PSN+ is a great fucking deal
A rental service which offers good deals, and gives new/old games at good discounts
I mean it's not Steam OMGWTFBBQ! Seasonal sale, byt there are times where patience pays off
Right now you can grab V8 Superstars Racing for $2.25, yes the game is a year old, was $19.99 at the start, but it's worth it at that price, for me a trophy whore 36 trophies (1 being a platinum is not bad, and it looks good for a budget title t a super budget price lol)
A rental service which offers good deals, and gives new/old games at good discounts
I mean it's not Steam OMGWTFBBQ! Seasonal sale, byt there are times where patience pays off
Right now you can grab V8 Superstars Racing for $2.25, yes the game is a year old, was $19.99 at the start, but it's worth it at that price, for me a trophy whore 36 trophies (1 being a platinum is not bad, and it looks good for a budget title t a super budget price lol)
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Man, that was hilariously pathetic and I can't stop laughing. Thanks for pointing me in that direction man.GraveRobberX said:
Fredrik
Member
Playstation Home is the biggest failure of this generation imo.
I mean it's still not even close to working as it was intended and advertised. Why is that?
They should make Home updates be installed automatically with system updates. You should be online on Home when you're online on PSN. You should be able to instantly switch to Home from XMB. People should be able to drop quick messages to you from Home when you're gaming or being in XMB - " Hey what's up? I'm at the bowling alley with Jan and Lisa. You should come over" - and you should be able to switch to Home instantly.Without having to sit 5-10 minutes waiting to get online and download the world, updates, etc.
Right now it's worthless. And I'll hate Sony forever if they aren't fixing it before jumping to next generation, because I was actually super hyped to set my foot in Home after the announcements, and it was one of the reasons that I went with PS3 rather than 360 for online enabled games. "It'll be awesome once Home is up" was my thought. I thought it was a Live killer, Sony made it laughable that MS had Live as a pay service.
I double dipped on the 360 yesterday, got my second 360 after a RROD crash. I've been an avid Live hater since the start just because you have to pay for it, but now I'm seriously thinking of getting Live.
Sony just ain't doing things right. And I fear that they never will. I've seen zero improvements lately and no talk about upcoming improvements either. Total failure. And it's such a shame because Home really could become the perfect online service.
I mean it's still not even close to working as it was intended and advertised. Why is that?
They should make Home updates be installed automatically with system updates. You should be online on Home when you're online on PSN. You should be able to instantly switch to Home from XMB. People should be able to drop quick messages to you from Home when you're gaming or being in XMB - " Hey what's up? I'm at the bowling alley with Jan and Lisa. You should come over" - and you should be able to switch to Home instantly.Without having to sit 5-10 minutes waiting to get online and download the world, updates, etc.
Right now it's worthless. And I'll hate Sony forever if they aren't fixing it before jumping to next generation, because I was actually super hyped to set my foot in Home after the announcements, and it was one of the reasons that I went with PS3 rather than 360 for online enabled games. "It'll be awesome once Home is up" was my thought. I thought it was a Live killer, Sony made it laughable that MS had Live as a pay service.
I double dipped on the 360 yesterday, got my second 360 after a RROD crash. I've been an avid Live hater since the start just because you have to pay for it, but now I'm seriously thinking of getting Live.
Sony just ain't doing things right. And I fear that they never will. I've seen zero improvements lately and no talk about upcoming improvements either. Total failure. And it's such a shame because Home really could become the perfect online service.
BoilersFan23 said:
Doesn't make it the right choice when it comes to creating an online community.
Doubt you defend Microsoft for charging tons for wireless/hard drives/multiplayer just because it makes sense financially.
Also both companies are insane for not bundling a 3$ hdmi cable ugh.
Happy. Cross-game chat would be nice but it's not a game-breaker for me. Steam is perfection, but PSN is pretty good for a free service.
They don't need to waste money bundling a headset. It's freaking bluetooth, they come in all prizes and sizes and most people have one lying around somewhere anyway.
LuchaShaq said:
They don't need to waste money bundling a headset. It's freaking bluetooth, they come in all prizes and sizes and most people have one lying around somewhere anyway.
soulassssns
Banned
No!
They could have done alot more in my opinion.
They could have done alot more in my opinion.
zerokoolpsx
Member
LOL. Lince got exposed. I remember reading that thread too, but closed it before all the excitement happened.GraveRobberX said:
I'd been happy with it up until this morning, when I woke up to find the dumb fuckers had once again pushed another demo to me in the auto-updates. I'm already a PSN+ member so I know full well where the store is and if I wanted to waste my monthly bandwidth (which I already use all of each month) I would've downloaded the FUCK'n demo myself. Now there is another game on my list to never buy. Thankfully I'm not someone stuck on Wireless only as it'd be a huge chunk out of the monthly usage or possibly $100's of extra charges.