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LTTP: The Dreamcast
- Thread starter TheSpoiler
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Invest in games, burned backups are cool until your laser strains more than it has to.
A Black Falcon
Member
Yeah, even though I just had to update the list to reflect the fact that Jet Grind Radio and Under Defeat aren't exclusives anymore, there still is a pretty decent library of DC-only titles out there, for sure.
Cannon Spike, Power Stone series, and Project Justice. Isnt the DC version of Skies of Arcadia better than the GC, even with the extra content? Also its still got the best version of Grandia 2.
Despite the Dreamcast being my personal favorite console, I'm gonna have to mostly agree. There's still a lot of under-the-radar stuff that might only be on Dreamcast still, but all the major games have either superior ports or superior sequels elsewhere. The problem is that they're spread all over other platforms.
-Crazy Taxi on DC is still the only version that has both product placement and the YA YA YA YA YA!
-Grandia 2 is still best played on the Dreamcast.
-Power Stone 2 as well but the DC version is expensive as fuck.
-Resident Evil 2 is also best played on Dremacast - only console version that runs at 60fps.
That's kinda it off the top of my head.
How is Skies better on the DC?
TaroYamada
Member
Do Gaffers make these posts in other retro-centric threads? Do other threads about retro consoles get posters coming in and downplaying the platforms because their once-exclusives have now been ported elsewhere? Because I only check in on the Dreamcast ones when I see them, and I've noticed this attitude quite a bit. With this logic, why buy a Genesis, SNES, NES, TurboGrafx, PS1, etc. when most of those libraries can be had on the Virtual Console, PSN or other DD services?
It just seems odd to me to claim that a classic console is overrated, in part because its games have now been ported elsewhere in a superior form. That has no bearing on the quality of a system within its lifespan, which is when a system would earn its reputation for the most part.
According to Wiki the DC version's only advantage is audio quality. GC version has slightly better graphics, faster load times, better framerate, and a lower random encounter rate (but slightly higher exp yields).
DonMigs85
Member
Nah, GC version is better overall - slightly worse sound quality since they had to compress it to get 2 GD-ROMs on one GC disc, but it has a lower encounter rate and bonus characters thrown in. Better graphics too - the characters have articulated fingers all the time now.
Also this. DC Tony Hawk 1 and 2 are the best versions.
DonMigs85
Member
There's still a ton of good as well as obscure SNES and Genesis games that never got ports or sequels. The Saturn hardware is probably worth owning more than the DC IMO, since the Panzer Dragoon titles, Clockwork Knight and a bunch of other games were never released elsewhere.
DonMigs85
Member
Not on this platform
I owe my touch typing to house of the dead.
DonMigs85
Member
They're rendered kinda useless now though, due to the existence of Tony Hawk HD.
Haha, what? Tony Hawk HD is terrible.
That game wasn't really any good, though. Or at least I didn't think so, I don't remember the reviews being overly favorable either. I guess it does have a cult sort of appeal.
TaroYamada
Member
I don't deny that most of the DC library has been ported, it just doesn't really indicate whether the platform is overrated or not. I don't view that as a cohesive metric by which to make that judgment. It earned the reputation it has by building a fantastic library of titles, featuring some of the finest games in the medium, in a very short period of time. I don't think a valid argument can be made that just because ports were later made, after its discontinuation, that it is somehow undeserving of that reputation.
DonMigs85
Member
The only thing I'm really against is a person going out of his way and potentially spending quite a bit of money on an old console and games when he can just get possibly better alternatives on a modern console or PC.
By the way, is Tony Hawk HD really bad? It got pretty good reviews for the most part, though they did take out split-screen and the track creator.
encephalon
Member
Wasn't there a PC ver. of Grandia 2?
I've had a hard time building up a solid "identity" for my Dreamcast and have always bordered on selling it. Only Grandia 2 and the DC ver. of RE2 are really anchoring me to the console (due to the higher difficulty modes).
I've had a hard time building up a solid "identity" for my Dreamcast and have always bordered on selling it. Only Grandia 2 and the DC ver. of RE2 are really anchoring me to the console (due to the higher difficulty modes).
Hell yeah, man. Tony Hawk HD has a terrible soundtrack, the graphics aren't good by budget standards, it uses a different physics engine than the original (mostly for worse), and on PC it runs at 720p max, like Dark Souls (YAY Durante). It's bad. Best version is still the old ones, on your platform of choice. I think Tony Hawk 3 on PS2 is still the best.
Yes and it was crap, crashed all the time, lots of bugs. PS2 version had terrible framerate issues, so DC version of Grandia II is the best.
encephalon
Member
Oh, I was hoping the PC ver. could have been okay. 
Too bad. Wish we could see an HD port or something.
Too bad. Wish we could see an HD port or something.
RpgN
Junior Member
Same here, I got Headhunter and E.G.G. Currently I'm waiting for Blue Stinger and Bangai-Oh to arrive. I'm planning on getting the Crazy Taxi games and more in the future. It's getting costly every time you think you own every interesting dreamcast game, you find out about more games that might also be worth getting. In the end, I'm coming to the conclusion that there will always be interesting dreamcast games to get if you keep on searching for them. So I'm going to stop buying some after like 2-4 essential games, enjoy the ones I own and then decide wether it's time to get more.
Not sure what some are on about, the dreamcast has some really underrated gems. After playing E.G.G (Elemental Gimmick Gear) for a fair bit, it boggles the mind how this game is hardly talked about anywhere (even on GAF). It looks like a real gem, with gorgeous hand-drawn 2D graphics, memorable music and that Zelda-esque exploration.
Truth!
Also add:
Soul Calibur
Sonic Adventure 1 & 2
Jet Set Radio
Phantasy Star Online
Power Stone 2
Daytona
Typing of the Dead
Seaman
Crazy Taxi 1 & 2
Virtua Tennis
So many great games!
Schobeleth
Member
You sir, are amazing for mentioning those. Two of my favorites - highly recommended.
VivaPapaya
Banned
First get one of these:
GANGSTERKILLER
Member
Yesterday i've played on my Dreamcast. Connected via RGB scart on a litte CRT TV.
Once i a while i feel so nostalgic that i NEED to play on my favorite console.
Once i a while i feel so nostalgic that i NEED to play on my favorite console.
Canis lupus
Member
I'm searching for a new boxed Dreamcast. Its gonna be difficult but hopefully I'll find one.
GANGSTERKILLER
Member
How much money are you willing to spend on an brand new Dreamcast?
Woody Invincible
Banned
I remember being the only one of my friends with a Dreamcast. They would talk about the PS2 while I touted Lodoss War, Grandia 2, RE:Code Veronica (DC ver still the best), among others. They would just say Madden.
It was a hard year for a fanboy.
It was a hard year for a fanboy.
Canis lupus
Member
150-170 euros, seems reasonable.