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So Target shipped someone an Xbox One already? [Update: console-banned until launch]
- Thread starter CrunchinJelly
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ThisWreckage
Banned
That's about all I agree with here. It's absurd. Not lawsuit-worthy absurd but absurd.
Brain of J
Banned
Good lord are people overreacting in this thread...
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Read the thread, they went through any possible way to prove it was a legit copy and the dude's story kept changing. I'm pretty sure that one ended badly for the OP. Frank looked into it, he does work for MS after all.
Nightengale
Member
My perspective was that a temporary ban due to street date being broken to control the message seems like a rational thing for any company to do. You're right, I was making stupid assumptions.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=711880
Here's the thread of just the stuff he was doing compiled in one post.
Here's the thread of just the stuff he was doing compiled in one post.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
But without the power of cloud is it even worth turning on?
It's one thing if he sat at home and just played his Xbox, it's another thing to go online and post just about everything you can, especially information that has an embargo on it. This is a violation of terms MS set regarding their console and information and are well within their rights to block the Xbox from their Xbox live service. It only looks bad if you're looking for something bad. MS isn't going to spend time preparing announcements and agreements with publications to have someone who got a console through an error spoil everything. No business is gonna sit there and throw their hands in the air.
Best way to do it would be to have Kinect be recording it via Skype call to Kaz while HDMI-in PS4 running Knack is snapped to the side.
I don't think it's the idea that he got the console early, it's the fact that he was revealing everything about an unreleased system over the internet that got him banned. If he just played it and maybe posted a few things he would be fine, but he was revealing everything.
I really appreciated the information, and it was fun, however I understand MS don't want eery aspect of their console OS torn apart 2 weeks before release. Servers for certain things might not be active yet. Any inactive server could lead to some bad PR like saying a certain app/feature is broken. The OS and update have to be final though, we are so close to launch.
I didn't mean to take Cerny's name in vain and I'll be sure to do my Hail Kutaragis before I go to bed but I was just playing off of what the other poster said. It wasn't meant in the way you took it.
How fucking hard would it be for Microsoft to send the guy a message on Live
"Hi there, this is <X> from Microsoft customer support, sorry to do this to you but we can't have you using the service until launch, we hope you enjoy your Xbox One in single player mode for 13 days and congratulations on choosing Microsoft, sorry and see you soon
" That ONE fucking message would show that hey, actual human beings work at Microsoft and it's not all corporate suits and toolbags.
Instead now there's this real tension for this poor guy not knowing if his console is fucked over or not and god knows how many fucking phone calls / whining he'll have to do to get it unbanned, IF it'll be unbanned at all.
Maybe they take 4 fucking days AFTER launch to unban his console so he misses out on launch day?
Who knows - they fucked up though.
SwiftDeath
Member
Lame move by MS
Terrible move if the console isn't unbanned at launch
Guy did nothing wrong
Terrible move if the console isn't unbanned at launch
Guy did nothing wrong
How fucking hard would it be for Microsoft to send the guy a message on Live
"Hi there, this is <X> from Microsoft customer support, sorry to do this to you but we can't have you using the service until launch, we hope you enjoy your Xbox One in single player mode for 13 days and congratulations on choosing Microsoft, sorry and see you soon
That ONE fucking message would show that hey, actual human beings work at Microsoft and it's not all corporate suits and toolbags.
Instead now there's this real tension for this poor guy not knowing if his console is fucked over or not and god knows how many fucking phone calls / whining he'll have to do to get it unbanned, IF it'll be unbanned at all.
Maybe they take 4 fucking days AFTER launch to unban his console so he misses out on launch day?
Who knows - they fucked up though.
It's 1am on a Friday.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i feel like something is fishy in that thread. supposedly the guy couldn't produce a receipt or produced an obviously photoshopped receipt? the thing that was weird to me is he just said "oh i got banned? well that sucks but i guess i'll go buy another xbox 360". you'd think someone would fight that hardcore.... or just provide proof of purchase as was asked for. i don't know all the details though so i might be wrong, that's just what i gathered from skimming the thread.
in this instance, i would hope they unban this guys xbone once 11/22 rolls around. at least he got the update so he can play some games before then!
razgriz417
Member
How fucking hard would it be for Microsoft to send the guy a message on Live
"Hi there, this is <X> from Microsoft customer support, sorry to do this to you but we can't have you using the service until launch, we hope you enjoy your Xbox One in single player mode for 13 days and congratulations on choosing Microsoft, sorry and see you soon
That ONE fucking message would show that hey, actual human beings work at Microsoft and it's not all corporate suits and toolbags.
Instead now there's this real tension for this poor guy not knowing if his console is fucked over or not and god knows how many fucking phone calls / whining he'll have to do to get it unbanned, IF it'll be unbanned at all.
Maybe they take 4 fucking days AFTER launch to unban his console so he misses out on launch day?
Who knows - they fucked up though.
Pretty much. All MS had to do was send him a message (tweet/xboxlive?) telling him its a tempt ban and I'm sure there'd be no outrage
I'm of the opinion that people need to breathe and tone down the reaction, but what you're saying about embargos is just wrong. There's probably a clause that allows the ban in the new XBL EULA or something, but the stuff about expecting the dude to follow an embargo he has no part in is silly.
TheProdigal
Member
Is this the moonlight guy that got banned or the one with the dev kit?
Too many tweets in a time period.
LOL, is he off his tits there or wat?
He doesn't have to follow it, which he clearly didn't. But MS is still well within their rights to cut him off their online service for leaking information from a retail unit before the street date. Simple as that. If the information has an embargo on it then MS wants it kept that, and they did the most sensible thing they could. At least the lucky guy can still play his games.
Best answer.
How fucking hard would it be for Microsoft to send the guy a message on Live
"Hi there, this is <X> from Microsoft customer support, sorry to do this to you but we can't have you using the service until launch, we hope you enjoy your Xbox One in single player mode for 13 days and congratulations on choosing Microsoft, sorry and see you soon
That ONE fucking message would show that hey, actual human beings work at Microsoft and it's not all corporate suits and toolbags.
Instead now there's this real tension for this poor guy not knowing if his console is fucked over or not and god knows how many fucking phone calls / whining he'll have to do to get it unbanned, IF it'll be unbanned at all.
Maybe they take 4 fucking days AFTER launch to unban his console so he misses out on launch day?
Who knows - they fucked up though.
Granted, they could've and maybe should've sent a message to him. You're assuming they aren't reaching out to him now or don't plan to at all. With the amount of lol's the was throwing out in his twitter I don't think he's too distraught over it. My problem is with people jumping and acting like this is the wild west and shit. He knew where he was going and people warned him of the threat and he laughed it off. He wanted his 15 seconds of fame and got it. People need to stop jumping to conclusions within 10 seconds of hearing half a story.
Make the most of it? MS spotlight him to give impressions, send out good messages to the community, offer him the chance to test out the online services...
NO, BANNED! LOLZ TERMS OF SERVICE VIOLIATION. For what, buying the console early??? Idiots.
B-b-b-but we didn't get chance to have a conversation with our public!
A few months early and I'd agree but this thing launches in days
NO, BANNED! LOLZ TERMS OF SERVICE VIOLIATION. For what, buying the console early??? Idiots.
B-b-b-but we didn't get chance to have a conversation with our public!
A few months early and I'd agree but this thing launches in days
Got banned? Well, I guess it was a matter of time. This guy was a boon for them but I guess they have their reasons.
Most of you guys loling at Microsoft don't realize that there might be some things they don't want to be shown to the public yet. It's pretty logical that they would cut off his access if you ask me. One of the other guys who got one early said there were unannounced games on there, but he might have been pulling chains on that one.
Either way, everyone got the preview they wanted. I do hope this guy isn't permabanned from the net though.
Most of you guys loling at Microsoft don't realize that there might be some things they don't want to be shown to the public yet. It's pretty logical that they would cut off his access if you ask me. One of the other guys who got one early said there were unannounced games on there, but he might have been pulling chains on that one.
Either way, everyone got the preview they wanted. I do hope this guy isn't permabanned from the net though.
That doesn't mean they can't send a simple, polite message with a dash of humour to difuse the situation, instead they completely poured gasoline on the problem.
If someone can make the executive decision to ban, they can make the decision to say "sorry dude, we'll fix you soon though!!
" SOLVED.maniac-kun
Member
I would return this thing and order a PS4 instead.
If I was a Sony PR person I would be sending the guy some PS4 games, PS4 camera / controller and a PSN+ card and say "think about it" in the card.
BAM motherfucking bam.
So? A billion+ dollar company, 2 weeks close to launch of their nextgen console? Why wouldn't someone be available to handle this? This would be worthy of waking someone up or handle with silk-gloves, they know they had a ton of bad press, why ask for more.
Now they have a guy with the first banned xbone on their hand, PR shitstorm incoming regardless of it was the right thing to do or not.
I have a pretty good idea and I know this guy is not part of that agreement. I'm simply saying if the info has an embargo on it then there's a reason and MS wants to keep as much of that tucked away until they decide when to let that information go. So that's what they did with this guy, cut him ff xbl. I don't see it as unreasonable or a dick thing to do.I don't think you understand what an embargo is.
Thanks!
They had a guy banning him right? It's Microsoft, there is people 24/7 working. Sending an email is basic.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Bit yet someone was around to both ban him and make a copyright claim. But a simple email explianing the position is too much?
lifeexpectancy
Member
Yeah can we get a mod to lock this thread down now? At this point it's just going to be people yelling back and forth at each other about whether or not he should've been banned, which is pointless. The other thread can be used to discuss the OS and such.
Blackage
Member
Meh, I don't know how the rest of the forum felt about it, but my reaction to this thread, and this guy going through his new system, enthusiastically exploring every little thing, and genuinely happy he had his system early in all of it's glory was pretty positive.
I was a little jealous he had his console early, and I was smiling for a while knowing this guy got his Next-Gen console and he was happy. Then Microsoft banned his console, and all those warm feelings I had towards the Xbone 180'd faster then they did after E3.
There was NO reason for them to ban this guy from online play. I don't give a shit if their server's aren't 100% ready yet. He bought his console, fair and square from a retailer, it was shipped to his house, he owns it, he broke no rules. He did not sign any NDA, he's not a member of the press, he's just an ordinary person like you or me.
He has every right to jump straight into his system the moment he got it, and experience every aspect of it, not get banned from online by the company he bought it from because a retailer fucked up and the company doesn't feel like it's ready yet.
For fucks sake if it's not ready yet, take the fucking servers down, don't ban the people who are on it, the people on it are your fucking customers. What is WRONG with you Microsoft.
Day one console were while supplies last. So first come first serve on pre-orders...when all pre orders have been fulfilled, the standard Xbox one pre orders were up.