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Nielsen: The top 5 most followed esports in the US, UK, France, and Germany

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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
You'll remember Nielsen best as being the TV ratings people. They split out PC exclusives and multi-platform games.

To note, they seem to be including people who watch eSports once a quarter or so as eSports fans, so something like one major tournament might skew the numbers.

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Also, here's a gender breakdown for the curious:

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Source: http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/...ads/2017-reports/nielsen-esports-playbook.pdf
 
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Krosia

Member
This is just people playing those games that are big e-sport titles, right? Not actually the following in terms of watching and attending big profile tournaments? Because else those ranking make no sense.
 
K

kenta

Has no PEINS
"Hearthstone: Heroes of the WarCraft"

nice

I can totally see how this happened, but still, nice
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Krosia said:
This is just people playing those games that are big e-sport titles, right? Not actually the following in terms of watching and attending big profile tournaments? Because else those ranking make no sense.
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This is presumably watching esports streams judging by the context of the PDF. To be clear, they're including anyone who watches an eSports thing like once a quarter as an eSports fan.
 
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kadotsu

Banned
What does follow mean in this instance? Playing the game, watching streams or simply stating that you follow the esport?
 
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Vena

Member
Curious how that console data is parsed, since at least based on tournament turn-outs/frequency and general populations, Melee and Sm4sh tend to appear to be bigger scenes than SF (and certainly much more so when combined). They have a lower absolute peak but they have multiple very large tournaments per year and have their own EVO-like majors.

Nirolak said:
This is presumably watching esports streams judging by the context of the PDF. To be clear, they're including anyone who watches an eSports thing like once a month as an eSports fan.
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And with that I am even more interested in how the data is parsed, pretty sure Melee and Sm4sh also pull in move consistent viewership than SF.
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Vena said:
Curious how that console data is parsed, since at least based on tournament turn-outs/frequency and general populations, Melee and Sm4sh tend to appear to be bigger scenes than SF (and certainly much more so when combined). They have a lower absolute peak but they have multiple very large tournaments per year and have their own EVO-like majors.



And with that I am even more interested in how the data is parsed, pretty sure Melee and Sm4sh also pull in move consistent viewership than SF.
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I'm looking at this again, and it might be quarterly or annual, so something like SF5's EVO stream might be getting a way broader viewership that's skewing the numbers, or the people watching Smash are not as heavily from the US, UK, France, or Germany.

If we assume annual, something like Blizzcon is going to cause an astronomical breadth increase for Blizzard games.
 
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WestEgg

Member
Do Battle Royale games have potential as eSports, or is it viewed as more of a casual thing? Also somewhat surprised by lack of Overwatch.

Edit: Nevermind for OW, second chart.
 
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Krosia

Member
Nirolak said:
This is presumably watching esports streams judging by the context of the PDF. To be clear, they're including anyone who watches an eSports thing like once a month as an eSports fan.
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Ah wait they not only showed pc separately, but also fully excluded pc from multiplat (just call in console & mobile then...). Then it could be fine. Did they compare both pc and multiplat later in a graphic? Wonder how way far behind console e-sports is compared to CS:GO, LoL and Dota 2.

But man, still not sure. FIFA and CoD are massive but their e-sports following is just forgettable.
 
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Vena

Member
Nirolak said:
I'm looking at this again, and it might be quarterly or annual, so something like SF5's EVO stream might be getting a way broader viewership that's skewing the numbers, or the people watching Smash are not as heavily from the US, UK, France, or Germany.

If we assume annual, something like Blizzcon is going to cause an astronomical breadth increase for Blizzard games.
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Smash is definitely further flung on reach than the limits of those countries, including a major scene in Japan, but the scenes themselves across such major timezones are generally independent outside of the majors.

But if it is quarterly, I could see how it would skew against the broader annual trends.
 
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JlNX

Member
Halo? I didn't think Halo e-sports was even top 10 to be honest. Thats surprising hopefully it doesn't effect arena (or even Warzone) that much more than it already has in Halo 6.
 
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Seiniyta

Member
Smash in general actually doesn't attract, outside of EVO amazing viewernumbers for tournaments. Melee on average is higher but still way lower then it potentially could be if Nintendo supported the scene more.

CapcomFighters with each tournament often has 30k viewers regardless where it is in the world.
 
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Krosia

Member
Synth said:
Halo's about as PC as Counter Strike is console though.
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Nah they just threw in all consoles and mobile together so they can seperate those from pc, else pc would dominate the whole thing. So multiplat actually just means Halo on Xbox and CoD on PS4, etc.
 
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AndyVirus

Member
WestEgg said:
Do Battle Royale games have potential as eSports, or is it viewed as more of a casual thing?
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I think they could in terms of viewership rather than prize money. They're very easy to follow and there's the massive 'unpredictability' with 100 players rather than 8 teams. Assuming they went with solo over squads (but they could go with both).
 
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Taliban Stan

Member
When they say eSports do they mean like tournaments and things associated with leagues/tournaments or would like random Twitch streams of pone person just playing the game count as an eSport stream?

If it's only like tournament stuff, I had no clue Fifa was that big on the scene.
 
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Kusagari

Member
Seems crazy to me that more people are watching Halo in 2017 than Overwatch.

Had no idea it was still so big competitively.
 
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Primethius

Banned
Seiniyta said:
Smash in general actually doesn't attract, outside of EVO amazing viewernumbers for tournaments. Melee on average is higher but still way lower then it potentially could be if Nintendo supported the scene more.

CapcomFighters with each tournament often has 30k viewers regardless where it is in the world.
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Yea, I was going to mention, everytime I check on the weekends whenever a tournament is going on, SFV is largely consistently the top viewed FG.
 
scoobs

scoobs

Member
That Overwatch League is looking more and more like a potential flop. That games time in the spotlight has come and gone, they took to long to get this thing rolling and interest has stagnated. Can not believe it’s not #1 in cross platform.
 
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Vena

Member
Seiniyta said:
Smash in general actually doesn't attract, outside of EVO amazing viewernumbers for tournaments. Melee on average is higher but still way lower then it potentially could be if Nintendo supported the scene more.

CapcomFighters with each tournament often has 30k viewers regardless where it is in the world.
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I'd need to see data and frequency. This is *some* of Smash's tracked data for Sm4sh only (Melee is even higher, and the combined is obvious): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W3iMEMPuOsyVMsp_J3qrZCO1jqPNNOnECjrBly3WKNs/edit#gid=0

Smash has much more frequent, higher turn-out tournaments than SF. Weeklies I have no idea how to even track and compare since Smash has weeklies all over the place.

And here is 2016 Data for both Melee and Sm4sh: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...WSdTwwf2Jvhq9ZBaZtZYi4-OE/edit#gid=2137314040
 
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Synth

Member
Krosia said:
Nah they just threw in all consoles and mobile together so they can seperate those from pc, else pc would dominate the whole thing. So multiplat actually just means Halo on Xbox and CoD on PS4, etc.
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Yea. That'd make sense.
 
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kirblar

Member
scoobs said:
That Overwatch League is looking more and more like a potential flop. That games time in the spotlight has come and gone, they took to long to get this thing rolling and interest has stagnated. Can not believe it’s not #1 in cross platform.
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OW is just such a bad spectator game for casuals.
 
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Primethius

Banned
Vena said:
I'd need to see data and frequency. This is *some* of Smash's tracked data for Sm4sh only (Melee is even higher, and the combined is obvious): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W3iMEMPuOsyVMsp_J3qrZCO1jqPNNOnECjrBly3WKNs/edit#gid=0

Smash has much more frequent, higher turn-out tournaments than SF. Weeklies I have no idea how to even track and compare since Smash has weeklies all over the place.

And here is 2016 Data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...WSdTwwf2Jvhq9ZBaZtZYi4-OE/edit#gid=2137314040
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Doesn't that 2016 basically show why SFV is listed? A lot of that Smash peak viewership in 2017 is lower than numbers SFV gets for it's tournies.
 
Sygma

Sygma

Member
scoobs said:
That Overwatch League is looking more and more like a potential flop. That games time in the spotlight has come and gone, they took to long to get this thing rolling and interest has stagnated. Can not believe it's not #1 in cross platform.
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Its gonna basically catter to NA viewtimes too which ... well .. isn't so hot
 
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blue_phazon

Member
Halo's probably up there for the championship finales. That's the only time the competitive league has viewership (like 80-100k viewers).


Usually the normal league streams only have around 5-10k viewers.
 
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Kalentan

Member
Renekton said:
WTF COD and Overwatch.

Those are hard to follow for a spectator.
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I actually watched some of the recent Infinite Warfare tournament and it's actually really easy to tell what's going on.

Though considering I've played a fair bit of it might color my watching experience.
 
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Visualante2

Member
Mostly impressed how StarCraft has remained relevant in so many markets.

Stat about Fifa players being much more casual than others really rains on the idea that these players are just as hardcore about the games they love..
 
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KojiKnight

Member
Glad to see Heroes of the Storm and SC2 on the list at all. I thought both were pretty much non-starts... though compared to the big 3, I guess they still pretty much are.
 
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