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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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I legit showed it in a video on this page lol. In time trials it doesn't because there is just 1 car on the track. If you are in a race with AI cars present, the model quality drops until photomode is opened. For the record, Forza does it too.
Sebmugi
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I think not, with the hours I spent to take pictures in the game I never view it ?!? oO
in DC, there is a single 3D model car
Inf3cted_b3ast
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I never saw it either. I don't know how these guys where able to see it.
dr guildo
Member
It was debunked long time ago, DC does swap models when there is more than one car on the track. I experienced it myself at home to be sure, because it really seamingless to notice...
TheAdmiester
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Again:
The aero flaps are shaped differently and aren't flush in the gameplay model, that's the most noticeable difference. I don't know how you don't see it.
This is 100% untrue. Every game nowadays will have multiple LODs for any vehicle model. Do you really think that when a car is on the other side of a 2mi track that the game is still rendering it as its ~800,000 polygon model?
Try it out. Pick a car like the Huayara in the gif, open a race with 12 AI cars, and alternate between gameplay and photomode. You can watch the models update.
Inf3cted_b3ast
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You are missing my point. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm saying I've been playing the game and have gotten 100% completion of the game and have taken multiple screenshots but never saw the model swap until now.Again:
The aero flaps are shaped differently and aren't flush in the gameplay model, that's the most noticeable difference. I don't know how you don't see it.
This is 100% untrue. Every game nowadays will have multiple LODs for any vehicle model. Do you really think that when a car is on the other side of a 2mi track that the game is still rendering it as its ~800,000 polygon model?
Sebmugi
Member
Again:
The aero flaps are shaped differently and aren't flush in the gameplay model, that's the most noticeable difference. I don't know how you don't see it.
This is 100% untrue. Every game nowadays will have multiple LODs for any vehicle model. Do you really think that when a car is on the other side of a 2mi track that the game is still rendering it as its ~800,000 polygon model?
this picture shows what exactly?
it is the same car with or without photo function? or so with or without other competitors?
because we'll just say that the car loses the dust with own clean car option in photo mode ..
I'll go check it by myself and I make screens
TheAdmiester
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It's swapping between gameplay and photo mode. The one with the UI visible at the bottom and the higher detail model is photo mode. The model definitely is different, not just the dirt layer.
Just watch this.
I'm legitimately surprised that someone that otherwise seems to have such an eye for detail would be questioning this tbh.
Inf3cted_b3ast
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The comment section on the video is a sight to behold.
Well, I suppose you could argue that it's not necessary, because it could just use the lower quality assets all the time, hehe.
ah ok, frankly I doubt but I'm going to screens that with and without competitors and with and without the post process the photo mode
Lol, right? I've been pleased with the amount of effort you've already put in with trying to match lighting position/paint/etc.
Yeah... YouTube comments lol.
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
lol.. Not saying that you are wrong or anything cus the video shows it but now I'm going to boot up driveclub to see this for myself.
dr guildo
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From GTplanet :
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/driveclub-scenery.320510/page-6
Photorealism.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/driveclub-scenery.320510/page-6
Photorealism.
dr guildo
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Hence the link in my posts.
What do you mean by half attributed batch since I name my source ?
And the thread is about showcasing scenery, a kind of tribute to Evo's attention to the detail as explained here :
But I understand that DC is sometimes unbelievably mimicking reality by its lighting and its unprecedented level of details in every departement.
I mean those are shots from individual posters, and there's a lot of pride in their photography. Saying they came from [x website] isn't proper attribution. There's the additional concern that the board allows post-editing to optimize their shots (and I think that might be the source of the odd resolution, though I'm not positive about that.)
dr guildo
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Sorry, but you are exagerating, since the moment I name where those shots came from, nobody can think they are mine, so please, stop with that shit.
And I know very well how someone can feel when one of his screenshots is exposed somewhere else, many sites stole some of my pics without naming they were mine, and you know what, I was very proud that they appreciated my talent despite of this missing mention, this is internet.
Please attribute other people's work. I'd rather not have a COM 101 discussion on why we attribute individual artists. If their shots are worth sharing, they're worth attributing.
dr guildo
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I think you now know you came too far, and now you want to play a kind of morality in a thread of videogame, where naming source has already been done. You sound ridiculous now !
And as I told you, I know how it works, my work already get stolen many times, and you know what ? I didn't care, all I cared about was people loving my works, not my name, there is no author rights for screenshots from ps4. You are funny...
Go to the tail-lights, headlights, and exhaust. That's the best way to tell.
I noticed that Horizon 3 has higher poly-count cars than Driveclub when taking pictures too. You can see it with the Atom (fore example) in the headlights.
Also, you should be able to do at least 720p size gifs to show if there are poly switches.
dr guildo
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TylerDurden4321
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while we're looking at Huayra shots here, I see that Driveclub has modeled the carbon symmetry right: Pagani works it so it mirrors left to right and a V-pattern emerges.
Pretty sure that Forza used to get that wrong. I knew that DC did it right, but not sure about Project CARS, Gran Turismo or Assetto Corsa.
Pretty sure that Forza used to get that wrong. I knew that DC did it right, but not sure about Project CARS, Gran Turismo or Assetto Corsa.
while we're looking at Huayra shots here, I see that Driveclub has modeled the carbon symmetry right: Pagani works it so it mirrors left to right and a V-pattern emerges.
Pretty sure that Forza used to get that wrong. I knew that DC did it right, but not sure about Project CARS, Gran Turismo or Assetto Corsa.
That's such an awesome touch. Good eye, too.
TylerDurden4321
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I wouldn't know it, if Clarkson hadn't mentioned it in one of his stupid DVDs. If nobody else does it, I'll try to look it up in the games I have tomorrow, too late for me now.
TheAdmiester
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while we're looking at Huayra shots here, I see that Driveclub has modeled the carbon symmetry right: Pagani works it so it mirrors left to right and a V-pattern emerges.
Pretty sure that Forza used to get that wrong. I knew that DC did it right, but not sure about Project CARS, Gran Turismo or Assetto Corsa.
Can't speak for the older titles because I can't be bothered to boot an Xbox up, but Horizon 3 gets it right at least.
That's the back sort of "spine" of the Huayra, you can see the start of the exhaust gap at the bottom.
TylerDurden4321
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Only remembered it from Forza 5's Zonda, I think.
TheAdmiester
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There's this too. Thought it was an inaccuracy on the Forza car. This little "nose" with the Pagani badge near the windscreen doesn't have the V pattern to it:
But it turns out the real car has that too:
https://madwhips.s3.amazonaws.com/photo_6999_carbon_pagani_huayra_207423_original.jpg
Linked since it's a huge image, you'll have to zoom in to see.
But it turns out the real car has that too:
https://madwhips.s3.amazonaws.com/photo_6999_carbon_pagani_huayra_207423_original.jpg
Linked since it's a huge image, you'll have to zoom in to see.
Ha, good one.
Truth is they got it right years ago. FH3 is just the current peak of it.
Unless you're trying to say this isn't getting it "right"?
Sweet Sally Struthers that looks amazing. Is that Photo Mode on the PC version of FH3?
TheAdmiester
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Yeah it's photo mode, and taken at the Redstone Gold Mine at sunset-y time. It's a really photogenic area and car.
TheAdmiester
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Here's a detail that amazed me.
This is from a gameplay shot. 4K image, cropped to this square, resized 200% just to make it clearer. The fact that each little indent on each light (so on this car it's basically this whole image x6) has its own reflection, and that each is upside down due to the concave shape, and that it's all being rendered while you're in *gameplay* is crazy.
This is from a gameplay shot. 4K image, cropped to this square, resized 200% just to make it clearer. The fact that each little indent on each light (so on this car it's basically this whole image x6) has its own reflection, and that each is upside down due to the concave shape, and that it's all being rendered while you're in *gameplay* is crazy.
Why are we posting tiny, post processed, images?
5 minutes of barely any work..
Forza Horizon 3...
Why are we posting tiny, post processed, images?
5 minutes of barely any work..
Forza Horizon 3...
It is more than a little pointless, yea.
GoldenCrow
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http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/25/1434609774-driveclub-tm-20150618072600.jpg
Better res version.
Can't say I'm a fan of the particle dust though, It ruins the image. In some cases where you want to make the image look dirtier it can look good especially on the Scottish tracks with an overcast dawn but in that pic it is way too heavy and looks pretty nasty. The clouds and use of blue further away from the camera (which so many games miss) look great though.
TheAdmiester
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God, they butchered the sound of that flat 6. Sounds like an F1 engine if the driver refused to go over like 5000RPM.
I just found these non photomode shots of Driveclub in my HDD. These are from that camera moving around before the races, and the last three are from replays. Sorry about the JPG compression. They're old shots. =/
These first two are interesting, because they show the same place under heavy rain, but the lightining conditions and cloud formations are different.
These first two are interesting, because they show the same place under heavy rain, but the lightining conditions and cloud formations are different.
Inf3cted_b3ast
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Great video unreal.