frankie_baby
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just anacdotale evidence but the wii has been supply constrained this week, seen loads of out of stock notices
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PAL Charts - Week 39, 2007 (Halo 3 - 2nd faster seller EVER behind GTA:SA)
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CitizenCope
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GarthVaderUK said:
Wow THAT is some impressive info!
Sho_Nuff82
Member
If Halo 3 is #1 for 360 launches and Gears is #2, FIFA (as #3 360 launch ever) beat out Crackdown, Lost Planet, and Forza...and came in 3rd for the week. Big sales week for the UK.
Phife Dawg
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Halo 3 beating Fifa in UK was to be expected, will be interesting to see how it performs in other European countries.
Besides, anyone who thought that Halo3 wouldn't sell any hardware is just as delusional as those believing 360 will from now on continue to outsell the competition handily.
Fifa is primarily seen as a Playstation brand around here. It does really well for 360 too so that might change now that PS' market dominance is broken.Sho_Nuff82 said:
But how would you explain the success of the Tiger Woods series or are you implying Golf isn't a sport?Pureauthor said:
Well he is the head of NoA. What do you expect him to say? Halo3 is a huge game and will sell huge amounts of hardware come launch?Kildace said:
Besides, anyone who thought that Halo3 wouldn't sell any hardware is just as delusional as those believing 360 will from now on continue to outsell the competition handily.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Forza has legs.
frankie_baby said:
True. I'm assuming it's the "hold stock back for the big releases" tactic....either that or Nintendo Europe are shipping far too much hardware to Germany and France and continuing to underestimate UK demand.
Wii was readily available a few weeks ago but it's almost vanished now-
http://www.wiipreorder.co.uk/
Phife Dawg
Member
Fair deal, I thought you were referring to Reggie because of that big ass thread.Kildace said:
felipeko said:I have something for this week:
Looks like he was right all along
:lol I have my own chart now awesome.
Anyway as i predicted the 360/ps3 have more or as many games in the top 40 this week as the wii. Both the 360 and ps3 versions of fifa 2008 outsold the wii version, and they did it by over triple to quadruple the amount.
Halo 3's first week sales in the uk are 450k.
Phife Dawg said:
Technically Halo didnt move much hardware. 1 in 3 Xbox 360 owners bought Halo 3 and there are 1.4 million Xbox 360s. That puts the software sales at over 400K. Hardware more than doubled, meaning less than tripled. That means that hardware went up by roughly 20-40K. In other words, 90 to 95% of people buying Halo 3 already had Xbox 360s. And people who were waiting to buy a 360 until Halo 3 came out would probably pick it up in its first week so those numbers wont improve by much.
mr_bishiuk
Banned
Halo beat Fifa 08 on all platforms in Ireland??
Thats Crazy!
Thats Crazy!
Sho_Nuff82
Member
PhatSaqs said:
Saving this for the epic September NPD thread. :lol
If 360 hardware sales "more than doubled" for even one week in the US, it would go over 400k in September NPD
and Odysseus would be banned
I think the more significant number is Halo's software pushing power. It not only managed to bring in new owners, but it got existing 360 owners to go into stores (and in the buying mood) enough to set the single-week sales record.
Mr Killemgood
Member
IMO, it should be relatively easy for Halo 3 to nail 1m in UK alone....I don't think there are many games out there that manage Japanese RPG-levels of low multipliers. All Halo 3 needs is a 2.25 multiplier. Which should be easy
Alcibiades
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Do people really think that Reggie had no idea 360 sales would increase at least somewhat after the release of Halo and all the marketing?
Reggie is talking in a broader sense, not a one-week spike. It would very well be true that the release of Halo 3 will cause a sustained increase in 360 sales and reach Wii levels throughout the holidays. In that case, Reggie would be wrong in thinking they don't need something to counter Halo.
It's very possible that Halo gives the 360 new life, especially among FPS and Halo fans, but a larger effect in terms of moving hardware remains to be seen.
Reggie is talking in a broader sense, not a one-week spike. It would very well be true that the release of Halo 3 will cause a sustained increase in 360 sales and reach Wii levels throughout the holidays. In that case, Reggie would be wrong in thinking they don't need something to counter Halo.
It's very possible that Halo gives the 360 new life, especially among FPS and Halo fans, but a larger effect in terms of moving hardware remains to be seen.
DefectiveReject
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who said it went up by 20-40K?Sho_Nuff82 said:
It was at 6000 a week not so long a go
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Tieno said:
3x multiplier!
:lol
Sho_Nuff82
Member
DefectiveReject said:
And sales more than tripled from that 6k after the price drop. The 360 is experiencing two overlapping bumps right now.
DefectiveReject said:
I was being very conservative. I figure if I said it went up by 6-10K somebody would invariably say I was being too low. Assuming you are correct (which is much closer to reality than 40K) and assuming the 450K sales, 97-98% of people buying Halo 3 already had an Xbox 360. Sounds like Reggie was more correct than some people would like to think.
plagiarize
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you'd be surprised then. PES more often than not doesn't outsell FIFA. may be the better game, but it aint the better seller.FF_VIII said:
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Hey, let's get some #'s out of this, yeah ?
spwolf said:
From what I understand, Reggie wasnt downplaying the Xbox 360 or Halo- he was downplaying the launch of Halo 3. He said that people who want Halo 3 would already own a 360. This was mostly true because the 360 had a strong library of games that appeal to the typical Halo 3 player. Im not trolling the console or the game, just stating that people are off-base if they think Reggie was so wrong.
When a console has a great library of games AND a huge system seller coming out, people dont often wait for the system seller. They buy the console for Halo, perhaps, but they buy it early and enjoy other 360 games while they wait. That is why the launch of Halo 3 isnt as important (as far as console sales go) as some people make it out to be.
maxmars said:Not in the least, they lack the table football minigame!
Table football could have actually been good if you could control it with motion. Nunchuck one hand and Wiimote the other. I dont like it the way they implemented it, now its more like a game of luck rather than skill.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Richelieu said:
This is silly though. Japanese sales ALWAYS spike, even for the best-selling systems, when a big game comes out.
It's more rare in the West, but it still does happen. If everyone simply bought their 360 ahead of time, sales wouldn't have spiked at all. The true test will be to see how long the 'spike' lasts, or if the 360 maintains high sales throughout the holidays. If it remains at or above Wii levels for a month or more, I think it would be safe to say that Reggie was indeed wrong. Again, if weekly sales WW only doubled for a few weeks, we're still talking about 100's of thousands of units moved just because of Halo 3. And if the baseline level of 360 sales remains higher than it was before Halo launched, that would be significant to 360 sales as well.
That's the definition of a system seller, isn't it? I don't think anyone expected the 360 userbase LTD to double overnight.
ksamedi said:
They did that to let you play 1 vs 1. This way, you can move all sticks at once.
I also would have liked to have the setup you suggest for 2p coop, but to say that now is more luck than skill is wrong.. You have to build somewhat different skills, but it's equally awesome (we're playing that every evening in the family).
ksamedi said:
Ahh ok yes, in single player it isn't quite as satisfying. I did that once to unlock the last two tables but it wasn't anything special.
When you play with at least another person on the other hand, it's very very fun. I was literally infuriated for one brief moment at my wife for letting a slo mo shot enter the net (she's the goalie) and letting us lose a match where I single handedly let us come back 4-1 to 4-4.. Awesome stuff! :lol
Opus Angelorum
Member
I guess the term 'Sonyland' does not really apply any more here in the UK.
Very impressive Halo 3 numbers, even more so considering the install base. And Reggie will be eating his words come the September NPDs.
Very impressive Halo 3 numbers, even more so considering the install base. And Reggie will be eating his words come the September NPDs.
DefectiveReject
Banned
tripled for a week maybe.... not forever.Sho_Nuff82 said:
Sho_Nuff82
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DefectiveReject said:
At least two weeks according to this article:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=28467
GI.biz said:
The price drop/Elite was the last week of August in the UK, so these sales were sustained for at least a good chunk of September.
The likely sales boost is 6k (pre-price drop #s) -> ~ 18-20k (price drop + Elite) -> ~36-40k (Halo 3 bump), conservatively.
If Wii sales were about 30k a week, this would indeed lead to the 360 outselling the Wii, as they noted here.
BenjaminBirdie
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39 (13) [PS3] Heavenly Sword (Sony Computer Ent.)
What happened here? Is this some weird UK Chart thing where it really sold much better but because this is the All Formats chart and not the Full Price chart it's different? Or whatever?
What happened here? Is this some weird UK Chart thing where it really sold much better but because this is the All Formats chart and not the Full Price chart it's different? Or whatever?
Sho_Nuff82
Member
BenjaminBirdie said:
It's the 7th best-selling PS3 game of the week, that's what happened.
Opus Angelorum
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BenjaminBirdie said:
It hasn't sold very well basically.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Okay. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Are we allowed to say Heavenly Sword has bombed yet?
Even I'm surprised by how quickly it's dropped down the charts.
Even I'm surprised by how quickly it's dropped down the charts.
I AM JOHN!
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GAF, do you know how sad this makes me?
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