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Mac Rumors: Some iPhone 6 Plus Owners Accidentally Bending Their iPhones in Pockets

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It's funny but I saw a bent iPhone 6 today at Media Markt. Mind you, the iPhone 6 hasn't been released yet in my country but a few shops have some devices for demo purposes.

The iPhone 6 (regular one) was slightly bent in the usual spot we've all seen on most of the photos found online, just under the volume buttons. It was hardly noticeable unless you knew where to look. From what I learned the shop have these iPhones on display for less than a week. I really want to think that some dumbass deliberately tried to see if it bends otherwise, I'm starting to believe that there is indeed a design flaw with the new iPhones.
Everywhere you look now there's a high chance they'll be bent now, people are stupid like that.

You can bent it with your hands, hence, people will do it on stores, monkey see monkey do.

As for solutions, Apple has stock waiting to be sold and these are metal, glass and microchip sandwiches that happen to be hell to service, they won't take finished phones back to manufacturing to change a damn part for a redesigned one, no. They'll try to sell them full steam ahead with no discount - that's the apple way to do shit.

This will be like antenagate, they'll spend more time than they should saying there is no problem whatsoever (they're still selling even if impacted), then they might come out and say they've studied the issue and did some accessory that attempts to fix the problem that they'll gladly give out for free (with the antenagate it was the bumper, in this case they could do something similar but rigid) and then they'll probably silently fix it throughout the year, like they did with the aforementioned antenna:

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Later models this year should be way harder to bend because of some reinforcement change, but Apple won't announce it, no.
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-of-bent-iphone-6s-2014-9

It is really not overblown. If you put the phone in your front pocket and sit down it will bend. If you don't, it won't, it's as simple as that.

I brought my phone back today, I got a 64GB iPhone 5S.

I had an iPhone 6 for 10 days using it as normal, putting it into my front pocket (that isn't super tight), sitting down, moving around, etc. No bend. While it's possible to bend the 6, I don't think we should just assume it's guaranteed to.

Regardless, it's not worth the hassle. I returned mine too and got a 5S as well due to liking that phone better (size, build, design) and this issue. If Apple is going to give people a hard time over replacements, that's well and truly fucked up. I will definitely think twice before buying future iPhones sight unseen. I'm incredibly disappointed in how Apple has handled this whole situation, they obviously have a flawed device on their hands but they try to deflect blame and act like it's a minor issue, hoping that it will just go away. Terrible.

What are the chances of Apple releasing an update phone that's more reinforced? Might be better to wait for a bit.

They will probably quietly fix it with the iPhone 6S/6S+ just like they fixed the iPhone 4 antenna issue with the iPhone 4S and the scuffing/sleep-wake button/messed up battery of the iPhone 5 with the 5S. S cycle is the best cycle (here's hoping they make another 4" phone next year for weirdos like me that prefer that size).

I'm curious, is it possible to bend the iPhone 5 or 5S with your bare hands like the 6/6+?
 
My roommate bought a 6 plus and it's still on back order. I don't understand why he went with the plus since he only uses it for music/podcasts while out of the house andDhas an iPad mini for the house.
 
They will probably quietly fix it with the iPhone 6S/6S+ just like they fixed the iPhone 4 antenna issue with the iPhone 4S and the scuffing/sleep-wake button/messed up battery of the iPhone 5 with the 5S. S cycle is the best cycle (here's hoping they make another 4" phone next year for weirdos like me that prefer that size).
The fact it was fixed with iPhone 4S wasn't a quiet fix (read my last post above) they wanted the world to know it was fixed, and they will do so too with the iPhone 6S.

It will probably get amended before during this year, but with little fanfare to it.
I'm curious, is it possible to bend the iPhone 5 or 5S with your bare hands like the 6/6+?
From the recent tests... Not really bendable by someone average, they can be bended, but it takes a lot more force.

But I have no doubt someone out there could bend it if they wanted. But the ammount of force wouldn't be normal, perhaps more than a regular people's weight being exercised in sheer strenght.
 
Definitely try Apple Stores first. I randomly went to the North Park Mall Dallas Apple Store and just waited in line for an hour to get my silver 128 GB 6+.
 
Sorry, LTTP but:

Apple supposedly follows the line of design of Dieter rams:


But Dieter Rams 10 principles include:

Good Design Is Honest - Nothing honest about using aluminium.
In the link you quoted, it say:
It does not make a product more innovative, powerful or valuable than it really is. It does not attempt to manipulate the consumer with promises that cannot be kept.
It means that a car with fins and spoilers that doesn't go past 200 km/h isn't honest.
Good Design Is Long-lasting - Apple not so secretly wants their products to last 3 years.

Again, in the link:
It avoids being fashionable and therefore never appears antiquated. Unlike fashionable design, it lasts many years – even in today’s throwaway society.
It doesn't talk about strength and robustness of the materials, but of the timeless perception of the object.
 
Doesn't have to be, lots of plastic to choose from. You can have it feeling like leather and durable, look at the 2012 Nexus 7.

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Virtually no complains about it's ability to last via google seatch.


Does the iPhone 5c feel like shit compared to machined metal?

It doesn't, for once Apple actually lured some good plastic engineers into the void and dared to use good plastic, clearly an "alloy" mix and not just their old shitty trick - *raw* polycarbonate.

Apple has been historically shit, using plastic.

Original ibook:

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Macbook White:

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(white ibooks also tended to have silly cracks like this on silly places)

White Unibody Macbooks:

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(beginners mistake doing the cutout like that without excess material or extra structure to withstand the extra stress, happens to every of those too, so they clearly just didn't test them)

Iphone 3G/3GS:

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(not as frequent to see, those are injection problems+pressure coupled with weak points in the structure/part, though)

All this because of the type of plastic they used, older Cube G4's also cracked a lot - I've seen it. Comes with how hard and not heat resistant the plastic is, also has to do with how material gets injected and is therefore not uniform.

Seeing how much it happened on the ibook/white macbooks and not anywhere else when it comes to portable computers one can only conclude it's Apple that has been doing it wrong, and rather than resolve it they chose to run with aluminium because their userbase was loving how premium it felt. Plastic has gone wrong for them and no one else on such a steady count.

then they went metal (originally titanium who broke a lot on the hinges), then aluminium - no more cracks and unbelievably people didn't complain of the fact it was done from aluminium, stuff dropped that warped into a different shape was due to misuse, so there was cause and effect even if the damn things (on the ipad and macbook case) were more fragile than they could be otherwise, end user still felt he did that to it, and effectively he did.

But that doesn't change the fact that that piece of object always wanted to be plastic or something that can witstand some shock and go back to it's original form, not aluminium, hell no.

Might I also add that from my experience with Apple wireless keyboards those pieces of shit always come bent from factory, I went through five of them until I said fuck this and did the "bend test" on reverse and unbended them. I'm paying extra for shit that tilts.


Apple supposedly follows the line of design of Dieter rams:

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But Dieter Rams 10 principles include:

Good Design Is Honest - Nothing honest about using aluminium.

Good Design Is Long-lasting - Apple not so secretly wants their products to last 3 years.


Then it gets worse, apple is minimalist in their design lines, this wasn't invented by Dieter rams, it's cold design (as opposed to hot design, which overdesigns stuff and makes them tiring... like angular sports cars)

Anyway, this line of design has been, since 1900 or so all about "let the object be what it wants to be". A macbook doesn't want to have a glass front, it's no plasma nor tactile so the glass front is just a huge mirror nobody asked for. Aluminium is a similar fuck up.

Dudes are a disgrace to the design language they supposedly represent. Honesty in design is what lead us to Iron being used up front on shit like the eiffel tower or concrete being used on countless buildings not trying to hide it.

Before, one wanted those evidences hidden, metal structures behind rocks or bricks, concrete behind finishes that weren't as long lasting.

And that's silly. But it's what Apple has been stubbornly doing for years now. Painting plastic and feigning it's metal is silly (what the competition did in the late 1990's/early 2000's), using metal is sillier (what apple did).You'd be amazed at the plastic industry these days, they have plastic that is more resistant to fire than metal.

You can make a plastic part look as premium as you want it to be, as durable as it can be too.A Heatsink doesn't justify the whole computer to be aluminium. And they could make just the central part to be aluminium.

Last White macbook did it:

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As you can see - not plastic. ;)

More, if they wanted it to function as a heatsink primarily, they would have to design the laptop with more indentations than they currently do. That's the furthest thing from their mind, but that's still the reason they went with a metal base for unibody white macbook, and that's fine, because it's one part - unlikely to bend at that. Corners et all want to be plastic, and they are.

Hey,

I've been a big fan of Apple's design for a long time. I believe the final iPod Classic will end up being a timeless device - something that will look modern even way down the road. Same with the PowerMac G5 and Mac Pro.

I think they're just beautiful looking devices; and outside of the Surface, the Moto X, and the HTC One M7, I can't think of a single currently-sold device that stands up.

With all that said, your post is very insightful. It has me reconsidering my thoughts, and reviewing my experiences with Apple. I appreciate the thorough breakdown. Thank you!

What kind of material would you have the iPhone 7 made out of, if it was you. Plastic? What kind?
 
What kind of material would you have the iPhone 7 made out of, if it was you. Plastic? What kind?
I'd run with the iPhone 5c look, finish and material, which is polycarbonate but it's either very well designed or its not the polycarbonate that always went wrong with past Apple products.

I believe it's a mix of both, they hired some good plastic engineers back then and if anything judging from the result they should hire more. But I also think/know it's not just regular polycarbonate it's based on it, but it has clearly been tweaked. Probably mixed with acrylic (which is also a thermoplastic, which is less "hard" but more malleable, something between both being ideal for a mobile device that has to be able to withstand some accidents).

I mean, search iPhone 3G/3GS cracks:

-> https://www.google.pt/search?q=ipho...vL8be7AaLr4HIDg&ved=0CCAQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=658

They micro-cracked a lot on the case, everything polycarbonate tends to crack a lot and everything Apple did before with this look and feel did. cracks is different than breaking this was purely aesthetic, but it is very annoying nonetheless.

But not the 5c:

-> https://www.google.pt/search?q=ipho...a=X&ei=oA4vVMbkB6nY7Aa63oHwDA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

Nothing.

No crack pictures whatsoever, and if you google hairline cracks it's the same.


When it first appeared I was very vocal (amongst friends and general discussions) about how I thought it was time Apple focused their attention outside of aluminium enclosures and possibly changing for this cheaper and better alternative specially if they were going for bigger inch versions of their phones soon.

Only drawbacks is perceived premium-ness and weight, 5c casing weights more than the equivalent Iphone 5 chassis as is and that's a normal thing. My white unibody macbook weights a little extra (roughly 100 grams) than a macbook pro 13 of the same size and revision.

Weight is good I feel, well... not on laptops, but on cell phones and stuff you handle it is, kinda how people prefer a dualshock 3 to a sixaxys due to weight, one of them felt off... and it's just a few extra grams. too light and it'll feel hollow. Not that iPhones ever felt cheap in that sense but that was due to stuffed internals.


They have other paths they can pursue, they're dead set on waiting a few years until liquidmetal alloys are viable, and that will fix their structural problems (albeit Liquidmetal will surely weight more than aluminium), but if it's a killer punchline of marketing term they're looking for they could also pursue ultradurable industrial plastics instead.

Plastic uses carbon bonds in it's structure and diamond is just pure carbon in the most dense way possible, hence the most durable ones have more and more carbon going on and that means premium.

They could resort to nano-diamond plastic, carbon nanotubes or Polybenzimidazole (higher melting point than some metals, including aluminium.

But to be honest, all of those, including Liquidmetal defeat the core purpose of materials having been chosen up until now, which is being cheap because there's plenty of them everywhere. Aluminium as much as I dislike it is the most abundant metal on earth and polycarbonate plastic is equally cheap and everywhere, as is carbon, which is the most common matter to be found on this planet too.

Liquid metal and fancy plastics are not.

Alternatively, I guess they could toy with the idea of using curved Sapphire on enclosures - thing is a solid 9 on Mohs Scale, it's only behind diamond itself, if they can "form" it like they do with polycarbonate then they could do some pretty enclosures. Thing they can't do is even dream of CNC/escavate it it in unibody fashion, because they do that as of now.

Or, speaking of which, they could use the nanodiamond idea but go with sapphire instead, it's certainly 90% the benefits in a cheaper material they're working with anyway, if they can make it crystallise in the same fashion and make it work with the material they're embedding it into the same way it's a winner concept.
Incidentally, how's the 5c holding up? Never heard anything bad about it.
It's a real tank, other than the screen breaking under pressure like with every iPhone out there (... or smartphone I should say) there are no design complaints to be issued against it whatsoever.

I think it could be a turning point for Apple, shame they don't seem to see it that way.


But (if going with something like the 5c) perhaps not the same colors as the iPhone 5c (I like them, but...) colorful products tend to be an easier impulse purchases but also tend to tire the consumer more easily, it can be easier to sell an yellow/red car due to how cool, bold and agressive it tends to be, but original owners (and subsequent ones) tend to sell them sooner than they would if it was black - crowded second hand market happening in the first year would lower the iPhone value as a new product so that's something apple certainly won't risk. I'm pretty sure that's why they don't offer a lot of colors on top range models, they have studies about this.
 
John Ive probably has done one interview too many and has gotten into his head that he is really god of industry design.

In reality he is just a good jewelry designer.
 
So any concrete data out there on this issue?

Thread went from people demanding their is a real issue to dying for almost a full week.

I know I've been going strong for a few weeks now.. no bend in my iPhone 6 which spends most of it's time in my front pockets.
 
On the one hand, 66 is an insignificant number relative to the amount sold, but on the other, you have to imagine that at least some of these are legit (in terms of what the owners are saying, i.e. 'I don't have tight pockets, I baby the phone, it still happened' etc) in which case there is either a defect in the manufacturing of a small number of devices or there is a fundamental flaw in the design that doesn't come up in conventional durability testing. There's a lot of deliberate bending going on in Apple stores, but there's also a bunch of examples from random owners who surely have no incentive to deliberately damage their phones.

I'm not convinced at this point. If that site gets to over about... 500 examples, I'm gonna say Apple have messed this up. Until then, I guess you can put it down to people making shit up (after accidentally bending their phones and then claiming they were really careful).
 
On the one hand, 66 is an insignificant number relative to the amount sold, but on the other, you have to imagine that at least some of these are legit (in terms of what the owners are saying, i.e. 'I don't have tight pockets, I baby the phone, it still happened' etc) in which case there is either a defect in the manufacturing of a small number of devices or there is a fundamental flaw in the design that doesn't come up in conventional durability testing. There's a lot of deliberate bending going on in Apple stores, but there's also a bunch of examples from random owners who surely have no incentive to deliberately damage their phones.

I'm not convinced at this point. If that site gets to over about... 500 examples, I'm gonna say Apple have messed this up. Until then, I guess you can put it down to people making shit up (after accidentally bending their phones and then claiming they were really careful).
Around 20 of those are in Apple stores
 
Do you have a case on? I haven't seen a caseless 6 or 6 plus in the wild yet. It seems like everybody is trying to baby their iphone even more than usual due to the bending stories.

yuck

I like the simplicity.

But yeah I see 5 and 5s without cases all the time but people always have 4 and 4s in cases. It's early for the 6, as people will baby new toys, but there are more reasons to have a 6 in a case than the other phones.

If I got a 6 I'd probably put it in a case and Ive previously gone naked with all myniphones.
 
The 5c looks like a white macbook and is nice.

I'm not a big fan of the iPhone designs, from 1 to 4 and 6. I think the 3G was probably the nicest, for its time, its ugly now.
 
i have never had my iphone 4s in a case and i've abused the crap out it using it as a flashlight doing maintenance and putting god knows how much pressure on it from being in my pocket when i have to bend down to lift heavy stuff.

my iphone 6+ will never be on my person if i do any heavy labor.
 
I like the simplicity.

But yeah I see 5 and 5s without cases all the time but people always have 4 and 4s in cases. It's early for the 6, as people will baby new toys, but there are more reasons to have a 6 in a case than the other phones.

If I got a 6 I'd probably put it in a case and Ive previously gone naked with all myniphones.

I think the 5S in Space Grey is the prettiest iPhone. I owned the 5 in slate, but I like this one much better.
 
I think the 5S in Space Grey is the prettiest iPhone. I owned the 5 in slate, but I like this one much better.

I'm going to be buying white/silver until Apple stops making them. The first iPod was white and, man, I'm a stickler for tradition like that. :)
 
My 6 that has survived since a few days after launch in my pocket is caseless.

Not really worried about it.

The people who bent their phones did something to put dozens of pounds of pressure on it; that's just the reality of physics. I don't forsee myself doing that.

The people claiming they did nothing to their phone are obvious wrong or lying; I don't understand why people deny... physics.. reality.. to believe people just because they report their phone bent and claim it was merely in a loose pocket otherwise un-touched.

I'm not saying they did it on purpose; but things don't bend magically without force.
 
i have never had my iphone 4s in a case and i've abused the crap out it using it as a flashlight doing maintenance and putting god knows how much pressure on it from being in my pocket when i have to bend down to lift heavy stuff.

my iphone 6+ will never be on my person if i do any heavy labor.

Out of curiosity, how's it holding up? I remember that my 4 was super durable. After nearly 4 years of usage, it only has some very, very slight chippings at the edges from dropping it.
 
My 6 that has survived since a few days after launch in my pocket is caseless.

Not really worried about it.

The people who bent their phones did something to put dozens of pounds of pressure on it; that's just the reality of physics. I don't forsee myself doing that.

The people claiming they did nothing to their phone are obvious wrong or lying; I don't understand why people deny... physics.. reality.. to believe people just because they report their phone bent and claim it was merely in a loose pocket otherwise un-touched.

I'm not saying they did it on purpose; but things don't bend magically without force.


The 6 wasn't ever in question, the 6+ was
 
To be fair to the fan of 5c, Since time immemorial, colour has been a tool of expression. An undeniable extension of who you are. And that’s exactly why they brought it to iPhone. It’s why they said no to thousands of seemingly acceptable colours before saying yes to five with uncommon beauty and depth. And why colour is designed to permeate everything when you use the iPhone 5c. From the way it looks. To the way it works. To the way it makes you feel. Because for colour to truly be part of the experience, it can’t simply be painted on. It has to be engineered in.
 
Out of curiosity, how's it holding up? I remember that my 4 was super durable. After nearly 4 years of usage, it only has some very, very slight chippings at the edges from dropping it.

i have dings on the edges of the glass and the steel band and that's about it.
 
No bend on my iPhone 6+ so far but plenty of people who ask me if it bent. Especially fanatic android supporters who try to be smug.
 
Well as long as they acknowledge the fact that this issue is going on and find a way to replace those bent in home, I don't suppose there's a problem.

Sucks to see this happen on a $1000 gadget though.
 
There is almost no possible way this is a widespread issue. I don't understand why people don't get that; it was evident in week one and has only become obvious now.

It is easier to bend than other devices; it still requires dozens of pounds of force to do it.
 
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