Castor Krieg
Banned
Wolf Akela said:
Story is one big mess, Toriyama just throws things at you without explanation, characters speak random stuff throughout the whole game.
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Parasite Eve "3": The Third Birthday |OT| Showers are Duckroll's fetish
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Story is one big mess, Toriyama just throws things at you without explanation, characters speak random stuff throughout the whole game.
Wolf Akela
Member
Basically, not plotholes.Castor Krieg said:
TheSeks said:
That's odd. I don't remember reading anything like this about Ginger. Are you sure you aren't mistaking her for Emily Jefferson ?
I searched on Google too and found nothing about this.
I found on Wikipedia the text I remember reading from the PC:
Ginger (Real Name: Kristina Ruskin) is a minor character and the lead singer of the band called Time for Truth. She's the daughter of violinist Erhard Ruskin, who was a strict father that directed the German Symphony Orchestra. At age 13 she rebelled against him by starting her rock band. They had then caught the attention of a major British record label that lead her to a professional debut at age 15. Her first album, "Killing Hour", sold over two million copies, an unprecedented performance for a debut album.
Soon after she moved the United States, but disbanded Time for Truth at age 20 to take a break. Her and her former band mates still continued to play concerts whenever they felt like it, causing the media and her fan base to still follow her closely.
It's thought Ginger died during the Sacrifice Incident, a handwritten will was found in her room stating all her financial assets were to be given to disadvantaged children.
Alternately, in 2009 she was fatally stabbed by a crazed fan in Central Park. It was revealed after her death she had been traveling to disaster-stricken areas and working on behalf of many aid providers and relief efforts, all anonymously. Once this news was revealed, a group of young people in England commemorated Ginger's inspirational life by establishing the Ginger Skimbleshanks Fund to help children around the world who are suffering from hunger, poverty, disaster, and war. (The fund takes its name from Ginger's favorite character in the famous musical Cats.)
Soon after she moved the United States, but disbanded Time for Truth at age 20 to take a break. Her and her former band mates still continued to play concerts whenever they felt like it, causing the media and her fan base to still follow her closely.
It's thought Ginger died during the Sacrifice Incident, a handwritten will was found in her room stating all her financial assets were to be given to disadvantaged children.
Alternately, in 2009 she was fatally stabbed by a crazed fan in Central Park. It was revealed after her death she had been traveling to disaster-stricken areas and working on behalf of many aid providers and relief efforts, all anonymously. Once this news was revealed, a group of young people in England commemorated Ginger's inspirational life by establishing the Ginger Skimbleshanks Fund to help children around the world who are suffering from hunger, poverty, disaster, and war. (The fund takes its name from Ginger's favorite character in the famous musical Cats.)
Wolf Akela said:
Eh...
Disappearance of the CTI Head guy is legitimately a plot hole. After Aya/Eve kills Gabrielle and he betrays her, he's just gone with absolutely zero explanation as to why. The SWAT Team wedding fiasco is a big one for a different number of reasons. Most specifically, there is absolutely no logical reason in the slightest as to why Aya has to die in the body switch at the end to avert the entire "Aya's soul breaks and she creates the heartle-... Twisted" when she survived the shooting. There was literally nothing stopping Aya and Eve just walking away from the wedding in the ending and that actually would have circumvented all of the Twisted nonsense that would have occurred in the first instance of when Aya died. When Toriyama waived that possibility off as "well... the sources are still there so the Twisted will still be a threat somehow!, that became a pretty big plothole.
Vamphuntr said:
IIRC, if you die the Humvee comes back with full health on reloading the second half's checkpoint. You use that and dive when the attack is about to happen (hard to know, I know) while keeping that up. It sucks, because that chapter is early in the game when you probably don't have high-bullet impact stat weapons to abuse and use on that boss to make it easier. :/
MechaX said:
Only during time zero. Otherwise no.
She didn't, she only survived the shooting when Eve finally regained her memories and reached Time Zero again to try to change the timeline and even then she was pretty much set to die. Thus the body switching.
About Kyle:
Was the last cut-scene with him (when he says happy birthday to Eve) a dream or something ? I mean... He died from the shooting right ? I'm not really sure...
I think it was Eve who imagined him while he was talking a last time before dying. Or else, it doesn't make sense why he had to leave Eve alone.
I think it was Eve who imagined him while he was talking a last time before dying. Or else, it doesn't make sense why he had to leave Eve alone.
TheSeks said:
Yes, it happened in Time Zero. But that's the root of the problem here. So let me get this straight.
In the original time line, Aya gets shot and dies, soul breakage, etc. Eve gets to Time Zero, the exact same thing occurs and instead of Eve immediately switching bodies, Aya gets up and shoots the guards... because? We're assuming that Time Zero is relevant because... well... Eve does make a new timeline from the altered events of Time Zero.
That still doesn't make a lick of sense when considering one, Eve regaining her memories or not doesn't alter effectiveness (or lack thereof) in this case of bullet wounds. Second, do we just assume that Aya would have gotten back up anyway in the original timeline but for Eve body switching suddenly? Then that goes right back to the entire "It turns out Aya was fine enough to head shot 9 SWAT guys and walk around perfectly fine so (and a theory like "it was a hallucinatory Aya prep-talk would work... if the SWAT guys weren't shown legitimately dead after wards)... how is she "set to die" again? Why does she have to die at all when considering the only thing that created the Twisted was Eve's intervention?
That still doesn't make a lick of sense when considering one, Eve regaining her memories or not doesn't alter effectiveness (or lack thereof) in this case of bullet wounds. Second, do we just assume that Aya would have gotten back up anyway in the original timeline but for Eve body switching suddenly? Then that goes right back to the entire "It turns out Aya was fine enough to head shot 9 SWAT guys and walk around perfectly fine so (and a theory like "it was a hallucinatory Aya prep-talk would work... if the SWAT guys weren't shown legitimately dead after wards)... how is she "set to die" again? Why does she have to die at all when considering the only thing that created the Twisted was Eve's intervention?
Well, you never know with those time paradoxes. One slightest thing could change the entire history...
It doesn't explain WTF was going on at the end, but still.
Since
It doesn't explain WTF was going on at the end, but still.
Since
the SWAT team intervention wasn't explained at all (the whole thing could have been prepared by Hyde to get Eve's powers, but how could he know at that time that Eve had different powers from Aya ?), we could also assume that a little unexplained something changed the timeline and made it happen like it did in the end.
Rahxephon91
Banned
So at my local Disc Replay they have a copy of Parasite Eve 2 for an awesome $44.00. I really wanted to jump on it as I'm really in a PE mood. Replaying the first 1 was a really fun and The Third Birthday was a solid romp. But man $44 is a bit much.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Yeah I'm just going to wait for a PSN release. When that happens it should hopefully bring down the online prices for the physical copy and if I like it I'll just go on from there. As much as I do like playing PS1 games on my psp, I still like playing them on consoles.Aru said:
Rahxephon91
Banned
Well I do have a bunch of anime dvds I'd like to get rid off. Maybe Disc Replay would like to help me.
SpaceBridge
Member
So I finished this the other night, and I though it was pretty good. It was a fine little shooter for the PSP, although it had some camera issues. Some the enemies could be challenging, but not overwhelmingly so. Plot wise, well, it was...odd but interesting. I played the original Parasite Eve and other than having Aya in it, I dont see how 3rd Birthday connects to the overall franchise. I did think that the overdive system was an interesting gameplay mechanic, and could be used occasionally in a tactical manner.
I was and still am blown away at the level of visuals that Square Enix is able to produce on the PSP. 3rd Birthday, Crisis Core, KH BBS, and Dissidia. Amazing graphics, and gorgeous art direction in all. Cant wait to see what theyre able to produce with Type-0.
I was and still am blown away at the level of visuals that Square Enix is able to produce on the PSP. 3rd Birthday, Crisis Core, KH BBS, and Dissidia. Amazing graphics, and gorgeous art direction in all. Cant wait to see what theyre able to produce with Type-0.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Is this game good enough to buy the twisted edition? I just found a store that has one copy left and I was debating whether I should spend the extra money on the Twisted edition or just buy the normal edition.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Globox_82 said:
Well technically it doesn't have the Parasite Eve name on it at all.
It's a divisive game. Some don't like it for straying so far into 3rd person shooter genre from its original more RPG-ish roots, but usually if you can look past that and the nonsensical plot, it can offer a enjoyable experience even with its flaws. Not even close to Square Enix's best efforts on PSP (i.e. Tactics Ogre, Dissidia, Birth By Sleep & quite likely the upcoming Type-0), but still a game that can offer some fun times on the go.
I really enjoyed it. Probably my fav PSP game.
I also did the IMFDB page for it.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/3rd_Birthday,_The
I also did the IMFDB page for it.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/3rd_Birthday,_The
Zenith said:
Damn, if I didn't dislike the game due to what they did to Aya, I'd be actually mightily impressed with this. I mean they'd done sort-of-real weapons for PE2 (the M16 being one), so I'm not surprised at the localization for the US being a few character changes. But I'm surprised by some of the models. Like the "S&W 500."
gamergirly
Member
Globox_82 said:
That about sums up my feelings. I really, really liked the original.
ResidentDante
Member
So I picked this game up (actually the twisted edition) for my good old PSP-1000. I've only played an hour of each of the previous Parasite Eve games on PS1, so I have really very little previous knowledge of the earlier games.
Played two chapters so far and I'm enjoying this. The shooting mechanics feel good and the graphics hold up well now that 3DS and Vista are out.
Played two chapters so far and I'm enjoying this. The shooting mechanics feel good and the graphics hold up well now that 3DS and Vista are out.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Just finished this on Vita, figured I'd post my impressions here
My main complaint is just how, aimless and vague the whole script was, the entirety was half sentences and people speaking in riddles, even Aya's responses implicated she knew much more than the player throughout the game but there's almost no explanation given
I have loads of questions about what happened (and why) but ultimately the story and characters just aren't worth investing any thought into.
Core gameplay was excellent though, and it's probably the best looking PSP game
Wasn't there supposed to be a shower scene? How do we unlock that?
My main complaint is just how, aimless and vague the whole script was, the entirety was half sentences and people speaking in riddles, even Aya's responses implicated she knew much more than the player throughout the game but there's almost no explanation given
I have loads of questions about what happened (and why) but ultimately the story and characters just aren't worth investing any thought into.
Core gameplay was excellent though, and it's probably the best looking PSP game
Wasn't there supposed to be a shower scene? How do we unlock that?
Its not Aya, as seen in the ending
I liked the story in that it made me want to know more and how it would it, which is more than I can say for most games these days.