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Santar · Oct 20, 2015

EDIT
Apparently it's the game's DRM/Copy Protection Denuvo, that requires a online authentication after every update.
Still really annoying, but at least it wasn't as bad as previously thought.
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Original post follows:
So after the whole online tax debacle I blocked MGS V in my firewall just to make sure the game was offline at all times, the game worked just fine and I was content (as content as one could be when Konami keeps trying to harm their own game)
That is until today.

Look at the message that popped up when I try to run the game now.
This is just insane, they actually seem to have patched the game to require access to the server in order to just run.
Has anyody else experienced this?

Wario64 · Oct 20, 2015

Fuckyou.jpg

Fracas · Oct 20, 2015

Axial · Oct 20, 2015

Strange, I'm actually playing it right now on PC, even though the servers are down for maintenance.

ASTROID2 · Oct 20, 2015

I guess it does. I was having problems with my internet a few days ago and was unable to play it.

Xbudz · Oct 20, 2015

Fucked. [...]

Emitan · Oct 20, 2015

I can't believe our friend, Konami, would do something like this

DarkLordMalik · Oct 20, 2015

Fracas said:
shit

Fracas
#fuckonami
(Today, 02:34 AM)

Pathfinder · Oct 20, 2015

Metal Gear Solid V: SimCity Edition

Modest Mauser · Oct 20, 2015

I just disconnected and tested it and it worked offline for me. It may be a glitch.

epmode · Oct 20, 2015

Thanks. I just backed up the folder before the update was downloaded. I'll test it myself.

Fracas · Oct 20, 2015

DarkLordMalik said:
Fracas
#fuckonami
(Today, 02:34 AM)

I can never post in a konami thread again, can I

dragonflys545 · Oct 20, 2015

Xbudz said:
Fucked. I bought the game but perhaps I should have just pirated it.

Ummm....

ShaunBRS · Oct 20, 2015

Santar said:
Has anyody else experienced this?

I have when launching the game offline straight after an update. Seems like it needs to connect at least once after an update before you can play offline.

Santar · Oct 20, 2015

Modest Mauser said:
I just disconnected and tested it and it worked offline for me. It may be a glitch.

Weird, I'll try a restart to see if that helps.

Matrix XII · Oct 20, 2015

Every time I hear another piece of news, it's just damning for this game.

Such a shame.

poodpick · Oct 20, 2015

Had that pop-up when I blocked the executable in my firewall. Pressing next gives you some code to input into a support ticket on Konami's website then the pop-up goes away forever.

Akronis · Oct 20, 2015

This will happen after every patch. You have to re-authenticate once every patch.

Vuze said:
It always has. Denuvo DRM requires you to connect and verify once with their servers if the executable gets updated.

This.

Vuze · Oct 20, 2015

It always has. Denuvo DRM requires you to connect and verify once with their servers if the executable gets updated.

Maximo · Oct 20, 2015

Xbudz said:
Fucked. I bought the game but perhaps I should have just pirated it.

Yeeeah no..I often download a Torrented copy after I buy the game depending on how bad the DRM is used to do it for Windows Live games couldn't stand that shit, but outright saying *Fuck this should have pirated it* is pretty bad.

Soulflarz · Oct 20, 2015

oh, that makes more sense.

Daingurse · Oct 20, 2015

Matrix XII said:
Every time I hear another piece of news, it's just damning for this game.

Such a shame.

Haven't even played the game, and my enthusiasm towards it has just cratered. Something new every week.

HardRojo · Oct 20, 2015

Xbudz said:
Fucked. I bought the game but perhaps I should have just pirated it.

You might want to edit that.

Nzyme32 · Oct 20, 2015

I was playing it offline with Steam two days ago without issue

Holdfing · Oct 20, 2015

Restarted Steam in offline mode, game works fine.
I hate Konami as much as the next guy, but come on now.

Solid Samus · Oct 20, 2015

I'm beginning to become convinced that MGSV is some sort of botched commentary on the state of modern gaming and our expectations of developers as gamers. There is no way that a games company could be this fucking tone deaf unless it was on purpose. There's your 'taboo that Kojima might be forced out of the industry over'. A game that constantly gets worse instead of better over time

Santar · Oct 20, 2015

ShaunBRS said:
I have when launching the game offline straight after an update. Seems like it needs to connect at least once after an update before you can play offline.

Ahh I see, i was starting to think it had something to do with the copy protection.
Still sucks to have to authenticate after every update, but at least it wasn't as bad as I feared.

Xbudz · Oct 20, 2015

Maximo said:
Yeeeah no..I often download a Torrented copy after I buy the game depending on how bad the DRM is used to do it for Windows Live games couldn't stand that shit, but outright saying *Fuck this should have pirated it* is pretty bad.

You're right.
It was strictly an emotional reaction to the fucked up way Konami is handling this game.

I'd consider getting a torrented copy now just to avoid this bullshit.

PMS341 · Oct 20, 2015

Daingurse said:
Haven't even played the game, and my enthusiasm towards it has just cratered. Something new every week.

Something tells me Konami (semi) wants this reaction, despite wanting the extra funds from DLC/insurance/etc. I've rarely seen any companies actively make a game worse patch by patch; it almost feels like defamation at this point.

Nzyme32 · Oct 20, 2015

Just retested it - plays offline without issues yet again on Steam.

More FUD

Klossen · Oct 20, 2015

Vuze said:
It always has. Denuvo DRM requires you to connect and verify once with their servers if the executable gets updated.

Funny how people were defending Denuvo as a non-intrusive DRM a while back. Seems like pirates got the better end of the deal again. They can play in offline mode without worrying about DRM verifications.

Trace · Oct 20, 2015

Xbudz said:
Fucked. I bought the game but perhaps I should have just pirated it.

Uh....

Or you could just not play it if you don't support that?

I'm just salty I can't get a refund on it.

ktroopa · Oct 20, 2015

konami has server maintenance happening right now.. so just try again later.

nothing to see here..

epmode · Oct 20, 2015

Nzyme32 said:
More FUD

Couldn't happen to a more deserving company.

This thread should probably be closed though.

RevolverRoden · Oct 20, 2015

Holdfing said:
Restarted Steam in offline mode, game works fine.
I hate Konami as much as the next guy, but come on now.

Yep. Time to lock er up.

prudislav · Oct 20, 2015

Vuze said:
It always has. Denuvo DRM requires you to connect and verify once with their servers if the executable gets updated.

God bless the awesome AntiTamper crap

Solid Samus · Oct 20, 2015

Klossen said:
Funny how people were defending Denuvo as a non-intrusive DRM a while back. Seems like pirates got the better end of the deal again. They can play in offline mode without worrying about DRM verifications.

DRM verifications that stem directly from having been online long enough to update your game to begin with.

Vuze · Oct 20, 2015

Klossen said:
Funny how people were defending Denuvo as a non-intrusive DRM a while back. Seems like pirates got the better end of the deal again. They can play in offline mode without worrying about DRM verifications.

I guess that OP noticed this only now proves their point

Not trying to defend dual DRM but I'll gladly trade manually searching updates and installing them for being only once per update heh.

Klossen · Oct 20, 2015

epmode said:
Couldn't happen to a more deserving company.

This thread should probably be closed though.

I disagree. This thread highlights MGSV not being available for offline play all the time. OP wasn't wrong.

Vuze said:
I guess that OP noticed this only now proves their point

Not trying to defend dual DRM but I'll gladly trade manually searching updates and installing them for being only once per update heh.

I don't know. There really is no point for this to be dual-DRM since Steam already does auto-patching and pirates can download this anyways. Denuvo exists in MGSV solely to hamper the player experience. If my connection was unreliable, I'd prefer the torrented version. Theoretically, that is.

JayEH · Oct 20, 2015

Glad to know this was nothing. Planning on buying the PC version soon.

Soulflarz · Oct 20, 2015

Xbudz said:
You're right.
It was strictly an emotional reaction to the fucked up way Konami is handling this game.

I'd consider getting a torrented copy now just to avoid this bullshit.

Why do you keep shooting yourself in the foot. People keep warning you because you aren't really supposed to admit to piracy here (it's not like Konami has people who read GAF or even post here, that would be silly!)

KHlover · Oct 20, 2015

Game doesn't work in Steam Offline mode for me. When I try to start it from there a popup telling me to start the game at least once online before being able to play it offline appears. With 70h on the clock. Even when I boot the game online first, then quit and change to steam offline mode without closing steam (I tried). Only way for me seems to be to start the game while my laptop is still online and then just never close the game. Yeaaaaah....

Fuck Konami.

Imm0rt4l · Oct 20, 2015

Xbudz said:
Fucked. I bought the game but perhaps I should have just pirated it.

Really now...

CHC · Oct 20, 2015

I just uninstalled the other day anyway. The game was an immense disappointment, the online is shaping up to be a mess, and I really don't want to have anything to with it anymore.

Konami can do whatever they please at this point, the damage is done.

epmode · Oct 20, 2015

KHlover said:
Game doesn't work in Steam Offline mode for me. When I try to start it from there a popup telling me to start the game at least once online before being able to play it offline appears. With 70h on the clock. Even when I boot the game online first, then quit and change to steam offline mode without closing steam (I tried). Only way for me seems to be to start the game while my laptop is still online and then just never close the game. Yeaaaaah....

Fuck Konami.

Denuvo DRM requires a player to connect online whenever the executable is updated + MGS5 was just updated on Steam + MGS5 servers are fucky right now

I agree that Denuvo is a pile of crap BTW. People that laugh at DRM complaints with "EVERYONE"S ONLINE ALL THE TIME" make me nuts. I'm not worried about MY internet connection. The authentication servers are the real problem.

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